
LaidOPEN Podcast
Welcome to the LaidOPEN Podcast hosted by Charna Cassell. Charna is a Trauma-Trained Psychotherapist and Sexuality Coach with over 20 years of experience. Every day, Charna helps clients heal from trauma and access more bodily joy, emotional regulation, vitality, and hope.
Now she’s bringing her expertise to podcasting with interviews from post-trauma thrivers who share creative resources to support living an authentic, passionate, mindful existence.
Together they explore how to have a more pleasure-filled, peaceful life while reducing self-sabotaging behaviors and gaining control over reactive behaviors. Charna’s mission is to help people like you understand the impact of trauma on their nervous system and therefore their relationships with an emphasis on ways to heal.
In every episode, Charna explores how to build our physical and emotional capacity to be with all that moves through us and around us to ultimately feel more liberated on the other side. Join our community as we embark on this transformative journey by reaccessing our connection to aliveness.
Latest episodes

Mar 25, 2025 • 59min
Embracing Silence: The Golden Path to A More Peaceful Existence
In this episode, Charna Cassell discusses the profound topic of silence, featuring an interview with Justin Talbot Zorn and Leigh Marz, authors of 'Golden: The Power of Silence in a World of Noise.' They delve into experiences and practices from their book that encourage finding clarity and peace amidst external and internal noise. The conversation covers the political and cultural relevance of silence, its role in addressing trauma, and techniques to incorporate it into daily life. The episode concludes with an invitation to listeners to reflect on their personal relationship with silence. Show Notes 00:00 Introduction to the Concept and Need For Silence 00:22 Personal Experiences with Noise and Silence 03:39 Introducing the Justin Talbot Zorn and Leigh Marz 05:37 Exploring Noise and Silence 07:11 The Impact of Noise on Wellbeing 10:35 Navigating Noise in Relationships 13:18 The Role of Silence in Healing 17:06 Mindfulness and Meditation 23:35 Embodiment and Silence 29:13 Finding Personal Pathways to Silence 31:08 The Essence of Silence 32:13 Scientific Insights on Silence 33:00 Holy Uselessness and Capitalism 36:05 Silence and Healing from Trauma 37:49 An Invitation to Silence 41:10 Self-Acceptance and the True Self 42:37 Sphere of Control and Influence 45:45 Cultural Perspectives on Noise 49:26 Silence as a Tool for Justice 50:40 Practical Exercises for Silence 55:11 Final Reflections and Farewell

Mar 11, 2025 • 57min
Menopause Unplugged: Health & Hormones at Midlife with Dr. Keesha Ewers
In this episode of Laid Open Podcast, I welcome back Dr. Keesha Ewers, a specialist in integrative medicine and functional sexology. We discuss the critical yet often overlooked topic of menopause, highlighting how women's health issues, particularly post-childrearing, are neglected in society and underfunded in research. Dr. Keesha and I provide insights into hormone replacement therapy (HRT), discussing various options like pellets, patches, and creams and emphasizing the importance of bioidentical hormones. We explain why not everyone needs HRT and the significant role of lifestyle choices, diet, and exercise in managing menopause symptoms. Our conversation also delves into how the body communicates its needs through everyday signs like urine color, vaginal health, and bowel movements. Additionally, we explore the impact of trauma, stress, and genetic factors on hormone levels. Dr. Keesha and I encourage listeners to tune into their bodies and get curious about their symptoms, offering practical advice on how to start addressing menopausal issues holistically. Every episode is now on YouTube, which you can watch via the link in my bio or by searching LaidOPEN. Additionally, the best way to support my work is by liking, sharing, and leaving a review for my podcast. 🧡 Show Notes 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 00:15 Understanding Menopause and Its Impact 02:26 Personal Experiences and Medical Insights 05:17 The Role of Hormones in Health 06:48 Addressing Hormonal Imbalances 10:42 The Connection Between Trauma and Hormones 21:49 Managing Stress and Hormonal Health 31:38 Understanding Embodied Sensations 32:54 The Role of Energy Systems 33:52 Exploring Water and Fire Elements 36:14 Hormone Replacement Therapy Options 37:25 Genetics and Migraines 38:55 Personalized Hormone Treatments 50:11 Lifestyle Choices and Hormone Health 54:43 Final Thoughts and Resources

Feb 25, 2025 • 57min
From Prisons to War Zones: Navigating Vicarious Trauma with Mark Walsh and Christian Branscombe
Today I welcome two previous guests from earlier this season to share their unique experiences and expertise on the topic of vicarious trauma and compassion fatigue. Mark Walsh, an embodiment coach, trauma trainer & host of The Embodiment Podcast, and Christian Branscombe, a restorative justice facilitator and coach. Together we dive into the intricacies of vicarious trauma and compassion fatigue, especially in the contexts of working in prisons and war-torn Ukraine. The two of them share experience to help us delve into the ways self-awareness, self-compassion, and structured self-care practices are crucial for managing compassion fatigue. The conversation also touches on the psychological impacts of trauma, the importance of maintaining boundaries, and the role of spirituality and humor in coping with intense and challenging work settings. This conversation on managing the impacts of trauma in high-stress careers and situations may come as some comfort for you as the world around us changes. 00:00 Introduction to the Guests and Episode Overview 01:39 Discussing Vicarious Trauma and Compassion Fatigue 03:02 Personal Experiences and Coping Mechanisms 07:13 Training and Self-Regulation Practices 17:32 Spirituality and Self-Awareness in Trauma Work 23:27 Challenges and Strategies in Prison Environments 32:13 Exploring Somatic Models 32:44 Understanding Emotional Resonance 34:28 Challenges in the Prison System 35:10 Trauma and Re-traumatization 39:26 The Power of Ideas and Hope 47:09 Connection and Well-being 54:01 Self-Care and Boundaries 55:01 Conclusion and Contact Information

Feb 11, 2025 • 56min
The Song Of Life: Prayer, Presence and Connected Living with Natalie Silva
This week I welcome Natalie Silva of God's Eye Oils and Made of Stars prayer circle group. She and I discuss the power of self-love, community, vulnerability, and the integration of prayer in daily life. Natalie also shares how her relationship with former LaidOPEN Podcast guest, Erica Wright, has been integral to her healing journey. The episode highlights Natalie’s involvement in S Factor, a movement practice that helps women embody their sensuality and heal past traumas. Throughout the conversation, we discuss the importance of community, self-acceptance, and slowing down to truly connect with oneself. The episode concludes with Natalie singing a song from the animated film Dumbo, 'Baby Mine,' a song imbued with the essence of motherly love, as an illustration and reinforcement of her self-love practices. Show Notes: 00:00 Introduction to Pathways to Peace 01:18 Meet Our Guest: Natalie Silva 03:48 A Conversation on Vulnerability 07:26 The Role of Prayer in Life 22:07 Healing Through Sisterhood 29:25 Finding Support and Embracing Visibility 30:06 Discovering S Factor and Sensual Movement 32:02 Healing Through Dance and Community 33:50 Teaching and Creating New Movements 40:30 Self-Love Practices and Slowing Down 45:10 Asking for Help and Vulnerability 49:34 Embodied Freedom and Authenticity 51:14 A Heartfelt Song and Closing Thoughts

Jan 28, 2025 • 1h 2min
Being (Sick ) Enough: Pain, Resilience and Healing the Self with Jessica Graham
One of the best things about my podcast is all of the wonderful people doing incredible things that it’s brought into my life. People like this week’s guest, Jessica Graham who’s returning to speak with me about their latest creation. Jessica is an author, actor and trauma resolution guide. Together we discuss Jessica's latest book, 'Being (Sick) Enough,' and talk about their journey of writing, dealing with physical and emotional pain, and navigating trauma and healing. Jessica explains their methods for coping with pain and the importance of self-acceptance and flexibility. The episode dives deep into topics such as adverse childhood experiences (ACEs), neurodivergence, chronic illness, and the transformative power of both pharmaceuticals and meditation. The conversation concludes with a guided exercise to manage physical pain and create a better relationship with one's body. Show Notes: 00:00 Introduction 02:05 Meet Jessica Graham: Author and Meditation Teacher 04:29 Writing Process and Challenges 12:53 The Impact of Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACE) 23:38 Navigating Family Dynamics and Healing 30:54 Family Conversations Sparked by Jessica's Book 33:05 The Impact of Positive Childhood Experiences 39:53 Embracing Pain and Healing 45:12 The Journey of Self-Acceptance 48:09 Exploring the Role of Pharmaceuticals 56:53 Mindfulness and Pain Management Exercise 01:01:06 Conclusion and Contact Information

Jan 14, 2025 • 54min
Evolving With Your Alter Ego featuring Ruby Marez
This week I want to acknowledge the wildfires that have ravaged Los Angeles, which also happens to be home to this week’s guest, actress, drag king and comedian, Ruby Marez. Ruby shares her incredible journey of using humor and play to heal trauma. She opens up about her clowning and drag king persona Ramón. We talk about how embodying this alter ego has transformed her life and inspired a stage show built to entertain and educate. She also opens up about the ways she uses this alter ego to address trauma, self-judgment, and emotional healing in her personal life as well. Ruby also discusses nervous system regulation techniques and offers supportive advice for those feeling stressed or dysregulated, especially about the wildfires. The episode also touches on Ruby's community initiatives and workshops aimed at educating people on wellness and housing rights. Ruby also introduces practical exercises for nervous system regulation—perfect for anyone feeling the weight of the world right now. Tune in for an episode that's as enlightening as it is entertaining. Show Notes 00:00 Introduction and Guest Background 01:05 Trigger Warnings and Coping Strategies 02:37 Interview with Ruby Marez Begins 02:59 Experiencing the Fires in Los Angeles 05:09 Navigating Trauma and Nervous System Regulation 07:01 Personal Stories of Displacement and Resilience 16:27 Creating Art from Adversity 18:42 Developing the Ramón Character 19:23 Spiritual Cheerleading 101 25:50 Therapeutic Insights and Audience Engagement 28:47 Embracing Emotions: The Key to Joy and Peace 29:00 Connecting with Diverse Audiences 29:30 The Universal Need for Emotional Education 30:34 College Students and Emotional Awareness 31:53 The Power of Performance and Presence 32:23 Overcoming Stage Anxiety 32:55 The Role of Somatic Practices in Healing 34:24 Acting and Auditioning: A Journey of Self-Acceptance 35:13 Understanding Rejection in the Acting World 36:06 The Importance of Self-Compassion 38:43 Creating a Supportive Inner Voice 41:14 The Therapeutic Power of Alter Egos 47:58 Practical Exercises for Self-Kindness 53:02 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Dec 31, 2024 • 1h 12min
Unlock Your Pet’s Secrets with Animal Clairvoyant Jessica Lindsey
Happy New Years Eve! In this episode of the LaidOPEN Podcast, I’m joined by Jessica Lindsey, a trauma-informed energy healer, animal communicator, and clairvoyant pet psychic. Jessica shares her journey of discovering her ability to communicate with animals and plants and offers tools to attune to these beings. We explore topics including different species' forms of communication, end-of-life support for animals, and the nuances of intuitive abilities. The conversation also touches on respecting the intelligence and interconnectedness of all living beings, along with a meditative practice for tuning into animal and plant communication. Jessica emphasizes the power within everyone to connect deeply with the natural world and urges us all to start refining this relationship today. If you’ve ever loved a pet and wished to be able to communicate with them clearly, this episode is for you. Show Notes: 00:00 Introduction to Animal Communication 00:25 Meet Jessica Lindsey: Trauma-Informed Healer 02:14 Discovering the Gift of Telepathy 06:56 Understanding the Different Clairs 12:04 The Intelligence of Animals and Birds 16:23 Communicating with Insects 21:49 Gardening and Animal Communication 28:56 Adopting and Understanding Rescue Animals 33:50 Understanding Animal Behavior and Coping Mechanisms 36:30 Supporting Animals Through Grief and Loss 39:13 Clearing Energies After a Loved One Passes 43:59 Animal Reincarnation and Soul Journeys 48:15 Guided Meditation for Connecting with Animals and Plants 01:04:02 Sharing Personal Experiences and Reflections 01:06:08 How to Connect with Jessica Lindsey 01:09:46 Course Information and Closing Remarks

Dec 17, 2024 • 1h 5min
New Wave Psychotherapy: Charna Cassell In Conversation with Joseph Kramer
In this episode of the LaidOPEN Podcast, I have an in-depth conversation with my friend Joseph Kramer, Ph.D about my journey into psychotherapy and sex education. Joseph is a sexologist and ex-Jesuit is the founder of Body Electric School for Massage as well as Sexological Bodywork and a past guest of LaidOPEN Podcast. He guided a conversation where I shared my experiences working at Good Vibrations, where I educated people about sexual health and became familiar with sexological bodywork and somatic therapy. We also discuss my education at the Strozzi Institute and the impact of my training with Stacey Haynes on dealing with sexual trauma and nervous system regulation. I highlight the importance of embodied freedom and liberation, personally and within my work. We touch on mindfulness, energy medicine, and the necessity of continuous practice to bring about lasting change. Plus, if you have been wondering what somatics is I define it in this episode and get into exactly what embodiment means. Additionally, Joseph emphasizes the crucial role of being present in the body and the importance of being of service to others. I further explain the development and intent behind my course, Pathways to Peace: Mindful Practices for Transformative and Vibrant Living, aimed at providing accessible resources globally. The episode highlights the necessity of integrating the body into therapeutic practices and provides valuable resources for anyone interested in similar career paths. Show Notes: 00:00 Introduction to the Episode 00:38 Meet Joseph Kramer 02:28 How Charna and Joseph Met 05:25 Charna's Journey into Sex Education 06:32 Good Vibrations and Early Training 11:16 The Strozzi Institute and Somatic Practices 15:52 Challenges in Psychotherapy Training 21:27 Pathways to Peace: Online Course 24:35 The Importance of Practice 29:27 Influences and Universal Truths 33:29 Integrating Somatics and Trauma 36:03 The Importance of Boundaries in Therapy 38:12 Surprising Client Experiences 41:59 Defining Liberation in Therapy 51:31 Resources for Somatic Practices 54:22 The Role of Somatics in Healing 01:02:48 Conclusion and Course Information

Dec 2, 2024 • 1h 2min
Love Lessons: The Philosophy of Heartfelt Living with Zach Beach
In this week’s episode, I explore a healthier version of intimacy when interviewing Zach Beach, a coach, poet, and yoga teacher who deeply explores the concept of love through various practices. His journey from a career in engineering to finding his purpose in love was influenced by the unconditional adoration he received from his parents, especially his mother. Zach emphasizes the importance of the body as an access point for experiencing and opening up, particularly through yoga and breathing exercises. We chat about the power of love in overcoming trauma, the significance of forgiveness, and how affection, devotion, and gratitude interplay in healing and cultivating a joyful life. We end the episode with practical advice on creating loving and predictable practices for personal growth and healing. Zach shares a simple breathing exercise to help you get back into your body and access your heart. Show Notes: 00:00 Introduction 00:03 Meet Zach Beach: A Life of Love 02:47 Exploring Love and Life's Purpose 04:06 The Journey from Head to Heart 04:22 Modeling Love and Compassion 05:35 The Body as an Access Point to Love 05:45 Understanding Love and Trauma 19:28 The Practice of Forgiveness 27:43 The Role of Animals and Deities in Healing 31:59 Creating Meaningful Experiences 33:08 The Power of Senses 35:35 Attachment and Warmth 37:26 The Role of Love and Gratitude 38:46 Healing and Trauma 43:50 Micro Practices for Love 47:51 Trauma-Informed Practices 54:12 Guided Breathing Exercise 58:43 Final Thoughts and Resources

Nov 12, 2024 • 56min
The Codependency Cure: Unlocking Relationship Freedom featuring Erika Wright
In this episode of LaidOPEN Podcast, I chat with the incredibly insightful Erica Wright, a codependency counselor who spends an hour with me breaking down complex relationship dynamics and sharing wisdom on healing and self-love. Erica delves into her journey, discussing the roots of codependency within societal frameworks and the transformative role of spirituality and sobriety. From understanding the true meaning of intimacy and interdependency in relationships to practical exercises for grounding yourself, this episode is packed with valuable takeaways. Ready to reclaim your energy, set boundaries, and foster unconditional love in your relationships? Tune in as we decode codependency and discover the path to genuine connection and self-empowerment. 00:00 Introduction to Today's Guest: Erica Wright 02:07 Defining Codependency 03:53 Historical Context and Personal Journey 13:00 The Practice of Interdependency 17:58 The Radical Act of Self-Love 21:59 Sober Reflections and Reality Checks 26:20 The Power of Friendships 27:59 First Partnership Experience 28:43 Non-Codependency Moments 29:53 Healing Through Intimacy 30:29 Unspoken Understanding 31:31 The Power of Presence 34:26 True Intimacy and Vulnerability 35:52 Sex and Somatic Healing 39:49 Spiritual Practice and Healing 46:29 Grounding and Centering Practice 50:47 Offerings and Final Thoughts
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