

Politics with Michelle Grattan
The Conversation
The Conversation's Chief Political Correspondent Michelle Grattan talks politics with politicians and experts, from Capital Hill.
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Sep 17, 2013 • 11min
Ian Chubb
Michelle Grattan talks to Australia's Chief Scientist Ian Chubb about the lack of a science portfolio in the ministry, his hopes for his working relationship with Tony Abbott and much more.