
That Relationship Show
The Couch offers an opportunity to hear experienced marriage counselors share what they've learned from decades of working with couples. If you and your partner are disconnected, unable to talk without arguing or wondering if you can save your relationship, Deb and Nao can help. Their warm, engaging way of talking about EFT can offer hope when all seems lost in your relationship.
Latest episodes

Aug 1, 2024 • 54min
Creating Sexual Intimacy With Ease
When one partner wants more sex than the other, things can get difficult for couples. Certified Sex Therapist and author Jessa Zimmerman joins us to talk about how to navigate desire discrepancy, and bring pleasure back to the relationship. Even if it's been ages since your last sexual encounter, there is hope!

Jun 26, 2024 • 49min
Underneath the Guilt Trip
Dr. Nancy Aikin joins us to discover what might be fueling the old "guilt tripping" approach to parenting adult children. She helps normalize the disappointment that can go both ways, and offers tips for having more meaningful family conversations.

May 13, 2024 • 56min
Healing From Estrangement
Renowned expert Dr. Joshua Coleman joins us to talk about estrangement between adult children and parents. In this lively discussion he shares how to reach for reconciliation or find acceptance when it isn't possible. Along the way he provides tips for preventing such cutoffs with family members.

Mar 23, 2024 • 1h 5min
Ketamine Assisted Couples Therapy
EFT Trainer Dr. Kathryn Rheem joins us to discuss what she's learned about Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapy with individuals and couples, including her own personal journey.

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Mar 1, 2024 • 56min
Love, Aggression and EFCT
Join Jef Slootmaeckers, an EFT trainer from Belgium and expert on interpersonal violence in couples therapy, as he delves into the complexities of love and aggression. He discusses the distinction between situational violence and intimate terrorism within relationships. Jef emphasizes the importance of addressing attachment wounds to break cycles of aggression. He also highlights how trauma influences emotional responses, urging couples to create safe spaces for communication. Throughout, he advocates for therapeutic interventions that foster healthier connections.

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Jan 29, 2024 • 1h 17min
The Inside Scoop on Therapy with Dr. Sue Johnson
Dr. Sue Johnson, founder of The Emotionally Focused Therapies joins us for a fascinating conversation. From the development of EFIT to her own therapy, Sue brings a lively authenticity to every story she shares in this episode.

Jan 1, 2024 • 52min
Say This, Not That (to keep your relationship secure & loving)
EFT therapist, author and Instagram star Julie Menanno joins us to talk about her new book, Secure Love. In this fun conversation, she helps us understand how to transform our anger, pain or resentment into validating boundaried conversations that are likely to both get us what we want and protect our relationship bonds.

Dec 1, 2023 • 59min
Everything You Wanted To Know About Emotions But Were Afraid to Ask
Author and therapist Hilary Jacobs Hendel takes us through the meaning and importance of emotions. Using the visual of a simple triangle, she teaches us how to interpret and manage them so that we can feel more calm, content and able to enjoy our lives. To support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=51113687

Nov 1, 2023 • 1h 4min
The Habits of Happy Couples (or What To Do Between Sessions)
EFT therapists, business partners and married couple Tina & Michael LeBlanc join us to talk about their new book, The 10 Habits of Happy Couples. They offer specific skills that can be practiced between therapy sessions for deepening connection, making repairs after fights and protecting the relationship.

Oct 8, 2023 • 1h 7min
Cheating-The Deepest Cut
EFT Trainer Dr. Ting Liu joins us to deconstruct the layers of pain that result from affairs. She offers hope for healing from even the deepest cuts, and for inoculating our relationships from this pain.