

Teacher Talking Time
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Teacher Talking Time is a podcast for language teachers who want more: more clarity, more autonomy, and more lasting impact, both inside and outside the classroom.
Hosted by Leo and Andrew, each episode features thoughtful, in-depth conversations with the educators, researchers, and teacherpreneurs shaping the future of language education. Guests have included Scott Thornbury, Bill VanPatten, David Little, Jennifer Jenkins, John Levis, Angelica Galante, Sarah Mercer, Enrica Piccardo, Claudia Fernández, Shawn Loewen, Paul Nation, Sheila Thorn, and many more.
From the latest in second language acquisition research to honest stories of teachers building lives and businesses on their own terms, every conversation invites you to think deeper, teach more intentionally, and take charge of your professional path.
We release two episodes each month - with full video versions on YouTube - to help you reflect, stay inspired, and grow as a teacher and changemaker.
Subscribe, listen, and join a global community of educators leading with intention.
Hosted by Leo and Andrew, each episode features thoughtful, in-depth conversations with the educators, researchers, and teacherpreneurs shaping the future of language education. Guests have included Scott Thornbury, Bill VanPatten, David Little, Jennifer Jenkins, John Levis, Angelica Galante, Sarah Mercer, Enrica Piccardo, Claudia Fernández, Shawn Loewen, Paul Nation, Sheila Thorn, and many more.
From the latest in second language acquisition research to honest stories of teachers building lives and businesses on their own terms, every conversation invites you to think deeper, teach more intentionally, and take charge of your professional path.
We release two episodes each month - with full video versions on YouTube - to help you reflect, stay inspired, and grow as a teacher and changemaker.
Subscribe, listen, and join a global community of educators leading with intention.
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Jun 19, 2025 • 1h 33min
"Don't teach AT the students. Teach OFF them" - Scott Thornbury
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"Don't teach at the students. Teach off them." Scott Thornbury becomes our first repeat guest and helps us dissect this and more.
Scott Thornbury is a teacher, teacher trainer, and award-winning author in English language education. He has taught and trained teachers around the world, including on the MA TESOL program at The New School in New York, and is widely recognized for his contributions to ELT methodology and teacher development.
He co-authored Teaching Unplugged (2009) and Dogme in Practice (2025), both with Luke Meddings. His latest book is called Scott Thornbury's 66 Essentials of Lesson Design.
In our chat, Scott delves into:
tensions between planning & spontaneity
what an effective lesson design process looks like
if the communicative approach can be rehabilitated
shifting from surface-level communication to meaningful interaction
adapting teacher training and institutional expectations
the role of technology in education
FOR MORE FROM SCOTT THORNBURY:
1. Visit his website
2. Book: Domge in Practice
3. Book: 66 Essentials of Lesson Design
4. Connect on LinkedIn
Thank you for listening. Your support has been overwhelming and we couldn't do what we do without you. We hope this podcast serves as an effective CPD tool for you.
If you have a comment or question about today's show, we'd love to hear from you: info@learnyourenglish.com
RESOURCES TO HELP YOU:
1. Book a free 1:1 chat with us to strategize your teaching business
2. Follow the LYE YouTube Channel
3. Learn how to monetize your teaching skills with TAP
4. Download our free guides for teacherpreneurs
5. Join our Substack community

May 2, 2025 • 1h 28min
Learner autonomy is driven by the TEACHER, not the learner - Dr. David Little
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Learner autonomy is something that happens INSIDE the classroom, not out of it. Teachers can't sit back and wait for their students to become autonomous.
This is part of what the esteemed Dr. David Little shared with us in our conversation.
David Little is Fellow Emeritus at Trinity College Dublin and a leading scholar in learner autonomy, linguistic diversity, and the application of the CEFR in language education. He played a key role in developing the European Language Portfolio and has led several national and international projects focused on language support for migrants and refugees. He currently coordinates the Council of Europe’s Romani–Plurilingual Policy Experimentation and is the author of influential works on educational inclusion and language learning.
In this episode, David discusses:
Understanding Language Learner Autonomy
Defining Autonomy in Language Learning
Pedagogical Models for Autonomy
Autonomy in Diverse Educational Contexts
Challenges and Collaborative Solutions for Teachers
Language Learner Autonomy and Writing
Developing Reflective Dialogue in Classrooms
Practical Advice for Fostering Learner Autonomy
FOR MORE FROM DR. DAVID LITTLE:
1. His page at Trinity College, Dublin
2. His Research Gate page
3. Language Learner Autonomy: Theory, Practice, and Research
Thank you for listening. Your support has been overwhelming and we couldn't do what we do without you. We hope this podcast serves as an effective CPD tool for you.
If you have a comment or question about today's show, we'd love to hear from you: info@learnyourenglish.com
RESOURCES TO HELP YOU:
1. Book a free 1:1 chat with us to strategize your teaching business.
2. Follow the LYE YouTube Channel
3. Learn how to monetize your teaching skills with TAP
4. Download our free guides for teacherpreneurs.

Mar 30, 2025 • 1h 44min
Native English isn't Relevant to the Majority of English Users - Jennifer Jenkins
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"It's such social injustice to expect people to use English like native English speakers, whichever country they're in." We dive into this and English as a Lingua Franca (ELF) with Jennifer Jenkins.
Jennifer Jenkins is a British linguist and academic. She was Chair Professor of Global Englishes at the University of Southampton until her retirement in 2019. She is a leading figure in the study of English as a Lingua Franca (ELF), and is an expert on communication in English between non-native speakers. She has published and lectured widely and is a founder editor of the Journal of English as a Lingua Franca.
In this episode, Jennifer tackles:
what English as a Lingua Franca (ELF) is
native speakers vs local speakers
why she was shunned from many rooms for her views
the cultural and linguistic bias in language testing
how tests are not predictive of academic success
the myth that ELF lowers English standards
the role of adjusting language rather than mimicking it
having a pioneer mindset even when people dismiss you
how international universities have hypocritical linguistic standards
the future of English as a global language
FOR MORE FROM JENNIFER JENKINS:
1. Her Google Scholar page
2. Her page at the University of Southampton
3. Accommodation in ELF: Where from? Where now? Where next?
Thank you for listening. Your support has been overwhelming and we couldn't do what we do without you. We hope this podcast serves as an effective CPD tool for you.
If you have a comment or question about today's show, we'd love to hear from you: info@learnyourenglish.com
RESOURCES TO HELP YOU:
1. Book a free 1:1 chat with us to strategize your teaching business.
2. Follow the LYE YouTube Channel
3. Learn how to monetize your teaching skills with TAP
4. Download our free guides for teacherpreneurs.

Feb 28, 2025 • 1h 23min
Native Teachers can't Fix Pronunciation - John Levis
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Learners can think a native teacher is a vaccine against poor pronunciation. Equally, native teachers can be misinformed in thinking that students should just follow them.
We dive into pronunciation, intelligibility, and teacher effects on learner performance with the great John Levis.
John is Professor of Applied Linguistics and Technology at Iowa State University. He is founding editor of the Journal of Second Language Pronunciation and the founder of the annual Pronunciation in Second Language Learning and Teaching Conference. His research focuses on pronunciation, intelligibility, pronunciation, and accent. John has received university awards for Excellence in Graduate Teaching, for Career Achievement in Research, and was named Angela B. Pavitt Professor of English in 2018.
In our conversation, John talks about:
accent vs pronunciation
the nativeness principle vs the intelligibility principle
how he coined "the intelligibility principle"
high and low value features of pronunciation
why some vowel sounds don't matter
native and non-native teacher effects on learner performance
learners viewing native speakers as a vaccine for poor pronunciation
some native teachers believing learners should just follow them
getting "caught" with accent
For more from John Levis:
1. Pronunciation for Teachers
2. His faculty page
3. His publications
Thank you for listening. Your support has been overwhelming and we couldn't do what we do without you. We hope this podcast serves as an effective CPD tool for you.
If you have a comment or question about today's show, we'd love to hear from you: info@learnyourenglish.com
Ways we can help you right now:
1. Book a free 1:1 chat with us to strategize your teaching business.
2. 5in30: Get 5 clients in the next 30 days
3. Just starting your business? Get free guidance in our support group.
4. Download our free guides for teacherpreneurs.

Jan 29, 2025 • 1h 23min
Stop Apologizing for Being Multilingual - Dr. Angelica Galante
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Native speaker or non-native speaker? Monolingual or plurilingual? Why do we have a binary bias in modern society?
These are some of the questions we tackled with Dr. Angelica Galante.
Dr. Angelica Galante is an Associate Professor in Second Language Education and Applied Linguistics, and William Dawson Scholar at McGill University. As the Director of the Plurilingual Lab, Dr. Galante conducts studies with language learners, teachers and educational leaders in the areas of plurilingual education, language teaching and learning, linguistic discrimination and justice, teacher education, and curriculum design. She speaks Portuguese, English, Spanish, and a bit of French and Italian.
In our conversation, Dr. Galante talks about:
Linguistic and Cultural Discrimination
Strategies to Combat Prejudice in Education
Plurilingual and Pluricultural Competence
Navigating Binary Bias in Language Discussions
Exploring Common Ground in Controversial Topics
The Role of Language in Identity and Mental Health
Practical Applications of Plurilingualism in Education
Balancing Plurilingualism and Language Acquisition
Challenges and Facilitators of Plurilingualism
For more from Angelica Galante:
1. Her professional page
2. McGill's Plurilingual Lab
3. Her publications
Thank you for listening. Your support has been overwhelming and we couldn't do what we do without you. We hope this podcast serves as an effective CPD tool for you.
If you have a comment or question about today's show, we'd love to hear from you: info@learnyourenglish.com
Ways we can help you right now:
1. Book a free 1:1 chat with us to strategize your teaching business.
2. 5in30: Get 5 clients in the next 30 days
3. Just starting your business? Get free guidance in our support group.
4. Download our free guides for teacherpreneurs.

Jan 4, 2025 • 1h 8min
A PLAN is not a STRATEGY: The 7 Cs of Teacherpreneur Success
Discover why some educators thrive in entrepreneurship while others falter. Unpack the seven Cs of teacherpreneur success, focusing on confidence as a skill and the crucial step of strategizing goals. Learn the importance of consistency and the power of emotional commitment in balancing health and business. Explore ways to find clients beyond social media and the significance of embracing your self-identity in teaching ventures. Join a supportive community as you navigate your path to success!

Nov 28, 2024 • 1h 34min
We should AIM to give more STATUS to being a teacher - Audrey Rousse-Malpat
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If you use vocabulary and grammar tests, you don't teach communicatively. Audrey Rousse-Malpat tells us why.
Audrey Rousse-Malpat is an assistant professor in second language acquisition at the University of Groningen in the Netherlands. She is also an entrepreneur and leads a teacher training company called Project Frans specializing in usage-based pedagogies for French as second language. She hosts the "Je suis #profdeFLE" ("I am a French language teacher") podcast.
Her research focuses on the AIM method: the Accelerative Integrated Method. In our conversation, she argues why it's a method education should adopt.
In our conversation, Audrey talks about:
thinking like a scientist
schools as factories
AIM (Accelerative Integrated Method) and how it works
feeling like the Marry Poppins of error correction
structure-based teaching vs Dynamic usage
why teachers need to relinquish control
what went wrong with the communicative approach
tips for implementing AIM
multilingual approaches in higher education
For more from Audrey Rousse-Malpat:
1. Project Frans
2. Connect on LinkedIn
Thank you for listening. Your support has been overwhelming and we couldn't do what we do without you. We hope this podcast serves as an effective CPD tool for you.
If you have a comment or question about today's show, we'd love to hear from you: info@learnyourenglish.com
Ways we can help you right now:
1. Book a free 1:1 chat to strategize your teaching business.
2. 5in30: Get 5 clients in the next 30 days
3. Just starting your business? Get free guidance in our support group.
4. Download our free guides for teacherpreneurs.

Nov 1, 2024 • 1h 40min
Burnout and stress is TOO LATE for teacher wellbeing - Sarah Mercer
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Education is designed around focusing on the learner first and the teacher as a medium to support the learner. Sarah Mercer tells us why this leads to unhealthy teachers.
Sarah Mercer is a Professor of foreign language teaching at the University of Graz, Austria. Her research interests include all aspects of the psychology surrounding the foreign language learning experience. She is co-editor of Multilingual Matters’ Psychology of Language Learning and Teaching book series, currently vice-president of IAPLL, and ambassador for IATEFL.
In this episode, Sarah expounds on:
why connecting with learners is fundamental
cell phone addiction and what we CAN'T do about it
re-framing what "student-led" means
defining "engagement" and pedagogical caring
students faking engagement out of respect for their teacher
burnout and stress are the result of the systemic element of teacher well-being
For more from Sarah Mercer:
1. Visit her website
2. Read her publications
3. Her handbook "Teacher Wellbeing"
Thank you for listening. Your support has been overwhelming and we couldn't do what we do without you. We hope this podcast serves as an effective CPD tool for you.
If you have a comment or question about today's show, we'd love to hear from you: info@learnyourenglish.com
Ways we can help you right now:
1. Book a free 1:1 chat to strategize your teaching business.
2. 5in30: Get 5 clients in the next 30 days
3. Just starting your business? Get free guidance in our support group.
4. Download our free guides for teacherpreneurs.

Sep 25, 2024 • 1h 32min
ELT is full of DISASTERS - Dr. Enrica Piccardo
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ELT is full of disasters, including the destruction of the communicative approach. Dr. Enrica Piccardo tells us why.
Dr. Piccardo is a Professor of Applied Linguistics and Language Education at the Ontario Institute for Studies in Education, University of Toronto. Her research spans language teaching approaches/curricula, multi/plurilingualism, creativity and complexity in language education.
She recently published The Action-oriented Approach. A Dynamic Vision of Language Education 2019) Bristol: Multilingual Matters, co-authored with Brian North.
In this episode, Dr. Piccardo discusses:
leveraging the messiness of learning
how Headway destroyed the communicative approach
multiple disasters in ELT: the separation of languages, the native speaker model, organizing curriculum around grammar, and others
how we're still teaching in a grammatical way because it's easier
what mediation is, its role in learning, and its 3 types
updating the CEFR to include mediation
the link between mediation and plurilingualism
the action-oriented approach and its benefits
why teachers need to delegate learning
For more from Dr. Enrica Piccardo:
1. Check out her new book here.
2. Her University of Toronto profile
Thank you for listening. Your support has been overwhelming and we couldn't do what we do without you. We hope this podcast serves as an effective CPD tool for you.
If you have a comment or question about today's show, we'd love to hear from you: info@learnyourenglish.com
Ways we can help you right now:
1. Book a free 1:1 chat to strategize your teaching business.
2. 5in30: Get 5 clients in the next 30 days
3. Just starting your business? Get free guidance in our support group.
4. Download our free guides for teacherpreneurs.

Aug 24, 2024 • 1h 4min
Teachers have TWO options: Earn more or leave ELT
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What do toad venom, the 5 stages of grief, and precarity all have in common? Andrew, Leo, and Mike explain.
Sustainability in the ELT industry as a teacher is pretty simple:
1. It is precarious
2. We all need to earn more money
3. It's unlikely to do that by having just one job.
In this episode, we discuss strategies to earn more by creating your own offer. Specifically, we dive into:
the 5 stages of grief pertaining to precarity
two paths teachers have: stay in ELT or move on
why earning more money is a requisite to stay in the industry
how to create a compelling offer that will actually sell
why focusing on lesson frequency is restricting
not creating solutions to problems no one cares about
toad venom and how you can apply it to your teaching business
Thank you for listening. Your support has been overwhelming and we couldn't do what we do without you. We hope this podcast serves as an effective CPD tool for you.
If you have a comment or question about today's show, we'd love to hear from you: info@learnyourenglish.com
Ways we can help you right now:
1. Book a free 1:1 chat to strategize your teaching business.
2. 5in30: Get 5 clients in the next 30 days
3. Just starting your business? Get free guidance in our support group.
4. Download our free guides for teacherpreneurs.


