“HR Heretics” | How CPOs, CHROs, Founders, and Boards Build High Performing Companies

This segment is dedicated to covering what rising mid-career HR professionals really want to know. Janelle Lopez, an incredible HR professional, is brought in to interview us about her next move. Janelle, who worked at Yahoo and SurveyMonkey, has 12 years of transformative experiences under her belt, yet finds herself faced with biases and apprehensions from CEOs and founders reluctant to hire a 'number two'. Kelli and Nolan offer advice about taking control of the narrative during the hiring process and leaning into work trials. Forward our substack to any HR Pro who needs to hear it - and tell them to Subscribe: https://hrheretics.substack.comTIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Intro & Janelle’s background(01:46) What should Janelle’s next steps be?(02:07) The Debate: Number One or Number Two Role?(07:45) Overcoming Biases and vhallenges during the search(08:14) The reframe: loyalty and learning(15:45) Imposter syndrome(17:02) Work TrialsGET IN TOUCH WITH JANELLE, NOLAN, + KELLI ON LINKEDINJanelle:https://www.linkedin.com/in/janelle-lopez-29997a4/Nolan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nolan-church/Kelli: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellidragovich/ This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit hrheretics.substack.com

The podcast discusses the flaws of traditional interviews, the concept of work trials, and the importance of spending time with candidates. It highlights Linear's move to work trials, where candidates are paid to work on real projects. The speakers emphasize the value of assessing skills and fit in a realistic work environment and encourage HR professionals to consider implementing work trials for improved hiring and business impact.

Katelin Holloway, former VP of People at Reddit and founding partner at VC firm 776, shares insights on breaking into venture and developing a founder-focused approach. They discuss the benefits of advising relationships, the need to deliver value, and the challenges faced by HR professionals in the venture capital industry. Holloway also emphasizes the power of genuine help and pivotal career moments in building high-performing companies.

Matt Oberhardt, Partner at Andreessen Horowitz, discusses the complexities of executive recruiting, emphasizing the importance of precision in referencing and maintaining professionalism. He also provides advice for founders, talks about veterans transitioning into start-ups, and addresses the job market in 2024.

Jen Trzepacz, or JT as she's widely known, is a Silicon Valley vet (Yahoo, EA, Salesforce, Living Social) and currently the CPO of SymphonyAI. JT joins Kelli Dragovich and Nolan Church to talk about how HR needs to be expertly aligned with the business bottom line, how to do transparency around compensation well, how to recruit the best talent, navigating complicated CEO relationships, and takes us on a trip down memory lane for her biggest F-ups.HR Heretics is part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: www.turpentine.co--SPONSORS: Lattice | Continuum✅ Discover HR software that drives performance with Lattice: https://www.lattice.com/hrhereticsHigh performance and great culture should never be at odds; they’re better together. With Lattice People Management Platform, companies efficiently run people programs that create enviable cultures where employees want to do their best work. Serving 1000s of customers of all sizes. Learn why companies from Slack to the LA Dodgers choose Lattice. https://www.lattice.com/hrheretics✅ Hire Fractional Executives with Continuum using this link: https://bit.ly/40hlRa9Have you ever had a negative experience hiring executives? Continuum connects executives and senior operators to venture-backed tech companies for fractional and full-time roles. You can post any executive-level role to Continuum’s marketplace and search through our database of world-class, vetted leaders. There is no hidden cost, you only pay the person you hire. And you can cancel at any time. www.Joincontinuum.com–KEEP UP WITH JT, NOLAN, + KELLI ON LINKEDINJT: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jetrzepacz/Nolan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nolan-church/Kelli: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellidragovich/–TIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Preview and Intro(04:33) Jen's biggest F-ups in her career(07:35) The merit files of Yahoo and the ripple effects(15:12) JT's thoughts on comp transparency today(20:09) Sponsor - Lattice | Continuum(21:54) Making hard trade offs and understanding competitive differentiation(41:10) When the relationship between a CEO and CPO doesn't work(47:01) JT's best hire and her secret weapon in the candidate experience(51:49) JT's favorite interview question that gets the best signal on candidates(55:46) Chief people officers are going to have to deal with AI This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit hrheretics.substack.com

Friends of the podcast and experienced CPOs Colleen McCreary (CreditKarma, Zynga, Twilio, EA) and David Hanrahan (Flare, formerly EventBrite, Zendesk) join hosts Kelli Dragovich and Nolan Church for this roundtable discussion of where the puck is going for DEI in 2024. They offer their takes on the progress made over the years, the current camps in this debate propelled by the recent capitol hill hearings and Harvard controversy, and the necessity of founders and companies to better understand their own priorities and define their position on DEI.Check out our individual episodes with both Colleen and David who have both been former guests on the show!Colleen McCreary on Layoffs, M&A, and Recruiting the Best Talent - https://open.spotify.com/episode/0WuLzUYeDaPIsOTbtTCZFD?si=aLgdLcjTR0eK6wBCv6KrGwDavid Hanrahan on High Performance, Comp Strategy, Performance Cycles, and New Norms - https://open.spotify.com/episode/46H0HSchsnl52DaP9aPsrG?si=jTZ9tTjzR36cNsdqPkjrAQHR Heretics is part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: www.turpentine.co–SPONSORS: Lattice | Continuum✅ Discover HR software that drives performance with Lattice: https://www.lattice.com/hrhereticsHigh performance and great culture should never be at odds; they’re better together. With Lattice People Management Platform, companies efficiently run people programs that create enviable cultures where employees want to do their best work. Serving 1000s of customers of all sizes. Learn why companies from Slack to the LA Dodgers choose Lattice. https://www.lattice.com/hrheretics✅ Hire Fractional Executives with Continuum using this link: https://bit.ly/40hlRa9Have you ever had a negative experience hiring executives? Continuum connects executives and senior operators to venture-backed tech companies for fractional and full-time roles. You can post any executive-level role to Continuum’s marketplace and search through our database of world-class, vetted leaders. There is no hidden cost, you only pay the person you hire. And you can cancel at any time. www.Joincontinuum.com–KEEP UP WITH Q, NOLAN, + KELLI ON LINKEDINColleen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/colleenmccrearychiefpplofficer/David: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidhanrahan/Nolan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nolan-church/Kelli: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellidragovich/–LINKS:Roxanne Petraeus, CEO of Ethena: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/harvard-dei-interview-question-best-avoided-roxanne-bras-petraeus-wzope/Joelle Emerson’s piece: https://fortune.com/2024/01/04/anti-dei-movement-fringe-mainstream-corporate-america-diversity-equity-inclusion-meaning-joelle-emerson/–TIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Preview and Intro(01:16) The current facts about DEI(04:50) The inability to have a real dialogue about what practices work and what practices matter(06:59) Current conversations move people out of the conversation on DEI to the detriment of an effort on diversity(09:07) The prerequisites of doing DEI the right way(11:08) The impossibility of measuring belonging in a company(14:19) Sponsor - Lattice | Continuum(16:05) The impossibility of measuring belonging in a company (continued)(17:57) Allocating resources and improving a company's DEI efforts and programs(31:50) Where do we see the puck going with DEI in the future?(41:05) When CPOs can't be everything for everybody and the importance of going back to who you are, your values and your culture(46:22) DEI in 2024 is going to be more of an expectation of leadership as opposed to standalone efforts This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit hrheretics.substack.com

Q Hamirani, Chief People Officer at Paper and former employee at Airbnb, discusses the CPO seat under pressure, Airbnb's remote work policy, using design thinking to solve people problems, the role of AI in the people function, and tactical insights from Q's time at Airbnb and his current CPO role at edtech company Paper.

In this podcast, the hosts discuss the intricacies of terminating executives, including negotiation of severance packages and the use of terms like double trigger and garden leave. They also explore firing CEOs and the challenges of maintaining motivation in the tech industry. Additionally, they touch on topics such as equity negotiations, executive benefit plans, and navigating being fired as an executive with professionalism.

Dan Portillo, founder and GP of The General Partnership, talks about the role of VC and VC talent partners, backchannels, success as an advisor, and framing new ideas as experiments. They discuss the challenges of hiring, building relationships with exceptional recruiters, tools like Lattice People Management platform and Continuum, the journey of a talent partner in venture capital, finding undiscovered talent, the importance of reputation and career growth in the tech industry.

Kelli and Nolan discuss their different perspectives on the effectiveness of DEI initiatives and the temperature in tech businesses right now.–Feedback is welcome - send a note to Kelli and Nolan on LI to let us know what you think.Nolan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nolan-church/Kelli: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellidragovich/–SPONSORS: Lattice | Continuum✅ Discover HR software that drives performance with Lattice: https://www.lattice.com/hrhereticsHigh performance and great culture should never be at odds; they’re better together. With Lattice People Management Platform, companies efficiently run people programs that create enviable cultures where employees want to do their best work. Serving 1000s of customers of all sizes. Learn why companies from Slack to the LA Dodgers choose Lattice. https://www.lattice.com/hrheretics✅ Hire Fractional Executives with Continuum using this link: https://bit.ly/40hlRa9Have you ever had a negative experience hiring executives? Continuum connects executives and senior operators to venture-backed tech companies for fractional and full-time roles. You can post any executive-level role to Continuum’s marketplace and search through our database of world-class, vetted leaders. There is no hidden cost, you only pay the person you hire. And you can cancel at any time. www.joincontinuum.com This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit hrheretics.substack.com