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The work advice you need, from women who’ve been there. Every week, join the co-founders and co-CEOs of theSkimm, Carly Zakin and Danielle Weisberg, as they help you get what you want out of your career by talking to the smartest leaders they know.
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Feb 12, 2025 • 30min
Julia Stiles on Manifesting a New Career Chapter
Julia Stiles, renowned for iconic roles in '10 Things I Hate About You' and 'Save the Last Dance,' has recently made her mark as a director with her film, 'Wish You Were Here.' In this conversation, she shares how growing up in NYC shaped her grounded outlook and why pursuing a college education was vital. Julia reflects on her transition from acting to directing, emphasizing the unexpected preparation motherhood offers. She also shares powerful advice on building confidence in unfamiliar roles and the importance of intentionality in career choices.

Feb 5, 2025 • 31min
Pam Weekes and Connie McDonald on Levain Bakery’s 30-Year Climb to Success
Unlike MBA grads focused on scaling and selling companies, Pam Weekes and Connie McDonald built Levain Bakery with no intention of selling. Baking was the life plan, the thing they’d do til their hands couldn’t anymore. They embraced slow, sustainable growth for years with no regrets. Then came a compelling offer and a gut feeling that led them to finally take on an investor. Listen as Pam and Connie share how a YWCA brought them together, how a New York Times article skyrocketed their company's success, and why having patience was their greatest tool.In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Pam and Connie share:
What they loved about their former colleague and supporter, Anthony Bourdain
How chance bike ride with an old friend got them a small business loan
When they knew it was time to expand to new locations
How they navigated tedious problems like meeting with community boards and dealing with frustrated neighbors
Why scaling their business slowly was key to their success and when they knew it was time to take on an investor
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Jan 29, 2025 • 34min
CNN’s Laura Coates on Sacrificing Financial Independence for a Career Move
In 2015, Laura Coates traded courtroom drama for newsroom deadlines, leaving her job as a Justice Department prosecutor to dive into a journalism career. She was a new mom with no media experience or contacts, but knew she’d regret it if she never tried. Fast forward to today. Laura is CNN’s Chief Legal Analyst, a Sirius XM host, and a trusted voice on today’s most pressing legal stories. Despite her success, it didn’t come without sacrifice. Listen as Laura gets real about the hard conversations she had with her husband – and herself – about prioritizing her professional ambitions over financial security. In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Laura shares:
How she charmed her husband when they first met, despite having a waxed off eyebrow
Why she found it difficult to financially depend on her husband while figuring out her career
How she got her foot in the door in media with no connections, and why getting the second foot in is more important
Why she never shuts down her kids’ curiosity around current events
How she’s dealt with big personalities in the courtroom, and on television
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Jan 22, 2025 • 35min
Bobbie CEO Laura Modi on Making the Unpopular Move
Laura Modi’s organic baby formula company, Bobbie, thrived during a formula shortage that saw nearly 50% of the nation’s formula supply vanish. As desperate moms searched for alternatives, many turned to Bobbie, leading to massive growth—until the demand threatened the supply. Laura faced a critical decision: continue accepting new customers or pause growth so OG Bobbie babies were taken care of. Laura tells the story of how her bold choice paid off and how Bobbie has future-proofed itself through smart business decisions.In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Laura shares:
How growing up in rural Western Ireland taught her hospitality
Why it took having a second child to push her to start Bobbie
How she navigated Bobbie through a product recall just two weeks after it launched
Bobbie’s recent 15% price cut, and how the company was able to do it
Why implementing paid family leave federally would help alleviate moms’ mental health issues
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Jan 15, 2025 • 32min
L’Oréal CMO Han Wen on The Power of Listening First
When Han Wen got a job at L’Oréal as an entry-level marketing associate, she didn’t even know what marketing was. The interviewers didn’t care. They spent the bulk of the interview talking about her bold outfit, which she got off the sales rack at J.Crew just an hour before. Fast forward to 2022, and Han became the CMO of L’Oréal USA at just 39-years-old. Talk about a full circle moment. Han shares how she made impressions throughout her corporate career, and how she’s gotten really good at listening – even when it might be hard to hear. In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Han shares:
Why her work stint in France was nothing like “Emily in Paris”
The best lesson she learned about being a people manager
What she focused on instead of chasing after titles during her career
How having kids destroyed any illusion of control, and how it carries into her work
Why L’Oréal encourages some rule-bending to make great products
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Jan 8, 2025 • 35min
Mother Untitled’s Neha Ruch on Rebranding Stay-At-Home Motherhood
Neha Ruch discusses her journey of stepping away from a successful career to embrace motherhood. She highlights the outdated stereotypes surrounding stay-at-home moms and advocates for rebranding this choice as not a luxury but a valid and fulfilling life path. Neha shares her insights on financial strategies for couples considering a break and emphasizes the importance of community support for mothers. Listeners learn about the emotional and identity shifts that accompany this decision and the need for a more flexible work culture.

Dec 18, 2024 • 42min
Morgan Stanley CMO Alice Milligan on Why Your Career is a Marathon, Not a Sprint
Alice Milligan left home at 19 to escape a dysfunctional family life. Her peers went to college right out of high school. Meanwhile, Alice spent ten years getting her college degree while working full-time to support herself. She had no choice but to be resilient, independent, and patient. Decades later, and faced with choosing between a dream job or staying near her husband awaiting a liver transplant, Alice shares how the patience she cultivated as a young woman guided her choice.In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Alice shares:
Her deep cut bagel order (cinnamon raisin fans, rejoice)
The strong women in her life who helped her navigate leaving home
Why working in HR in her early career served her well throughout her career
How she rationalized her choice of remaining close to her family or taking on her dream job
How Morgan Stanley prioritizes women feeling financially empowered – and how the company’s new marketing initiatives reflect that
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Dec 11, 2024 • 34min
Connie Chung on Outwitting the Boys Club
She’s an icon, she’s a legend, and she is the moment. Connie Chung is the trailblazing veteran broadcaster who worked her way up from being a copy-girl at a local news station to anchoring one of the most popular nightly newscasts, CBS Evening News. To get there, she had to make it through the “boys club” of the 70s newsroom. Think: Mad Men, but news. She says it could’ve been worse. But she made it work by being just as confident as they were.In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Connie shares:
The impact of growing up around four strong-willed sisters
How she defied the racist and sexist stereotypes men had of her
Her biggest regret of her career and how she reconciles it now
Why getting fired from CBS Evening News proved to be serendipitous
A cameo from her husband, Maury Povich. Yes, that Maury
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Dec 4, 2024 • 32min
Jessica Alba and Lizzy Mathis on Prioritizing Your Mental Health as a Mom
Welcome back to a new season of 9 to 5ish. We’re kicking things off with Jessica Alba and Lizzy Mathis, two best friends and co-hosts of the show “Honest Renovations” on The Roku Channel. There are plenty of home renovation shows out there. But theirs highlights the importance of mom having their own space to recharge. As moms of three kids each, they learned that the hard way. In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Jessica and Lizzy share:
Their friendship origin story and why Lizzy lied to Jessica about her age for years
How they took the jump from being friends to becoming co-hosts of a show
Why surface-level friendships don’t last in business partnerships
The burnout of filling others’ cups before their own, and how they fixed it
Tips on dealing with the highs and lows of the holiday season
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Oct 30, 2024 • 31min
Build-A-Bear CEO Sharon Price-John on Why Defining Values is Key to Achieving Goals
Early in her career, Sharon Price-John literally put pen to paper and wrote what she dubbed her “price values.” AKA: the qualities that guided her in work and life. She reasoned that if she had time to write a grocery list, she could take a second to define what was important to her. Although her price values have inevitably evolved as she got older, Sharon shares that defining her values made the path to achieving her goals a lot clearer.In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Sharon shares:
The brownie points she scored from her kids being a toy company exec
Why she follows the age-old advice “love what you do”
What influenced the changes to her “price values” list
How she managed to bring Build-A-Bear its three most profitable years ever after COVID
The difficulties of succeeding a founder-led business, and how she overcame them
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