
Another Kind of Mind: A Different Kind of Beatles Podcast
Welcome to Another Kind of Mind: A Different Kind of Beatles Podcast. We’re a collective of artists, musicians, and professionals who challenge established narratives about the band with irreverent commentary, educated criticism, and original, thought-provoking analysis.
Latest episodes

Feb 2, 2023 • 2h 15min
Strange Bedfellows: Ep 2 Sticky Situations w/Joe Hagan
In this discussion with Joe Hagan, author of the Jann Wenner biography 'Sticky Fingers,' listeners are treated to candid insights on the complex dynamics between Paul McCartney, Yoko Ono, and the media. Hagan shares his experiences interviewing both icons and dives into their often fraught relationship, revealing how Wenner’s philosophy shaped public perception. They explore McCartney's image-building tactics, Yoko's attitude, and the media's obsession with The Beatles' legacy, offering a rich tapestry of rock history and personal storytelling.

Jan 26, 2023 • 2h 28min
Strange Bedfellows: Ep1 It’s Contentious
In this engaging discussion, Paul McCartney, the legendary singer and songwriter from The Beatles, reflects on his intricate relationship with Yoko Ono after John Lennon's passing. He candidly shares his grief and how it shaped their connection, along with the challenges of reclaiming the Lennon/McCartney catalog. Additionally, they explore the emotional complexities of their public personas and private memories, touching on the tensions around song rights and the lasting legacy of their intertwined lives.

Dec 14, 2022 • 1h 43min
McCartney and Mozart, con spirito!
SUMMARY
Is Paul McCartney the 20th Century’s Mozart? Phoebe and Daphne tackle this question with radio host and classical music programmer, Valerie Ing.
We discuss the similar biographies, artistic processes and whimsical spirits of these two creative dynamos and share some of our favorite pieces from both composers. We also debate Bach, listen to birds and reflect upon the evolving legacies of Herr Mozart and Sir Paul.
Join us for a musical adventure into MozARTney!
PLAYLIST
Penny Lane (McCartney) The Beatles (1967)
Calico Skies (McCartney) Loma Mar Quartet (1999)
Piano Concerto No.17 in G Major Op 9, K 453: III Allegretto (Mozart) Andras Ligetti (1990)
12 Variations on Ah vous dirai-je, maman (Mozart) Rousseau (2020)
Mary Had a Little Lamb (McCartney) Wings 1971
Giovanni Batista Pergolesi: Stabat Mater: Quando Corpus Moriator And Amen (Mozart) Simon Preston (1984)
Ocean’s Kingdom II: Hall of Dance (McCartney) London Classical Orchestra
Standing Stone: I Cell Growth. Semplice (McCartney) London Symphony Orchestra, Lawrence Foster (1997)
Ecce Cor Meum: II Gratia (McCartney) Academy of St Martin in the Fields, Gavin Greenaway (2006)
Requiem, K.626 Lacrymosa (Mozart) Academy of St Martin in the Fields (1984)
Liverpool Oratorio: I War ‘Non Nobis Solem’ (McCartney) Royal Liverpool Philharmonic Orchestra (1991)
Paul’s Piano Piece (McCartney) Paul McCartney (1969)
Liverpool Oratorio: VI - Work, Violin Solo (McCartney) Royal Liverpool Philharmonic Orchestra (1991)
Golden Slumbers (McCartney) Jan Vogler, BBC Philharmonic (2022)
Piano Concerto in E Flat, K482, 3rd Movement (Mozart) Sir Neville Marriner, Academy of St Martin in the Field (1984)
Cosi fan tutte K.588 Act II Fate presto, o cari amico (Mozart) Chamber Orchestra of Europe (2013)
Abduction from the Seraglio K 384; Turkish Finale (Mozart) Sir Neville Marriner, Academy of St Martin in the Field (1984)
Standing Stone: II He Awoke Startled: Sea Voyage (McCartney) London Symphony Orchestra, Lawrence Foster (1997)
Piano Concerto 23 in A Major, K488: II Adagio (Mozart) Vladimir Ashkenazy, London Symphony Orchestra (2017)
Tuesday (McCartney) Loma Mar Quartet (1999)
Serenade 13 in G Major, K.525 “Eine Kleine Nachtmusik”: I Allegro (Mozart) Wiener Kammerphilharmonie (1991)
VIDEO
Is This Rare Beatles Song Really a Famous Classical Movement?
almost beatles songs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvNX4mn8Jxg
Chaos and Creation at Abbey Road: https://youtu.be/9elQeVfrLOo
Valerie’s column: https://anewscafe.com/2015/01/30/redding/mistress-of-the-mix-mozart-vs-mccartney/
VALERIE’S SPOTIFY PLAYLIST:
https://open.spotify.com/user/12186483102/playlist/14T7slfEigJKrjfCJtsRaO?si=8j9WdIg7QXC7WZVnuH2q9A
AKOM’S SPOTIFY PLAYLIST: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0TqzsrNJHO6OVgnPD4cJpA?si=768231e3446d4688

Nov 30, 2022 • 1h 41min
A Woman Who Understands: AKOM talks w/Dr. Christine Feldman-Barrett
AKOM welcomes Dr. Christine Feldman-Barrett, author of A Women’s History of the Beatles.
Phoebe, Daphne and Christine discuss: how the Beatles have inspired generations of women, effective labor, fandom, diversity in Beatles scholarship, Living History v. critical distance, and being (v. being WITH the Beatles).
SOURCES
Ehrenreich, Barbara, Elizabeth Hess, and Gloria Jacobs. "Beatlemania: Girls Just Want to Have Fun." In The Adoring Audience: Fan Culture and Popular Media, edited by Lisa A. Lewis, 84-106. 1992. Reprint, New York: Routledge, 2001.
Whiteley, Sheila. Space Between the Notes: Rock and the Counter-Culture. London: Routledge, 1992.
Collins, Marcus. "We Can Work it Out: Popular and Academic Writing on the Beatles." Popular Music History 9, no. 1 (2014): 79-101.
http://www.meetthebeatlesforreal.com
Mary Ann Seighart. “The Authority Gap: Why women are still taken less seriously than men, and what we can do about it.” Doubleday, July 1, 2021
Candy Leonard. “Beatleness: How the Beatles and Their Fans Remade the World”
Arcade; Reprint edition (July 5, 2016)
PLAYLIST
She Said She Said THE BEATLES (1966)
I Don’t Want to Spoil the Party THE BEATLES (1964)
Drive My CarTHE BEATLES (1965)
Rain THE BEATLES (1965)
She’s a Woman THE BEATLES (1965)

Oct 27, 2022 • 1h 34min
AKOM Mailbag: Tumblr Edition 2/2
SUMMARY
Phoebe and Daphne answer listener mail from social media site, tumblr. This 2-part episode offers a unique glimpse into feedback and questions from AKOM listeners. (Also, keep an ear out for a brief appearance by a special guest!)
TOPICS FOR EPISODE 2/2
Paul’s job v. John’s art school
John refused to be alone with Paul?!
Paul’s difficulty saying ILY
Emperor of Eternity
John hit Yoko?!?
WTB cover art
Lewisohn relations
The Hamburg crew and Paul
Paul is a weak drummer
Paul in court
Paul put up with so much
Divorce Meeting (nervous laughter)
Was Yoko at entrapment session?
Feminization of Paul
Paul/John in ‘66 v. ‘68
Victor Spinetti
We don't like Paul’s solo work?!
Genius Composer
PLAYLIST
P.S. I Love You THE BEATLES (1963)
Please Mr. Postman THE BEATLES (1963)
Paperback Writer THE BEATLES (1965)
MERCH STORE:
https://www.teepublic.com/stores/another-kind-of-mind

Oct 27, 2022 • 1h 30min
AKOM Mailbag: Tumblr Edition 1/2
Listeners dive into thought-provoking discussions about the evolving perceptions of John, Paul, and George, especially post-'Get Back.' The hosts tackle personal questions about love, vulnerability, and regrets tied to their relationships. They also examine the nuances of Paul and John's songwriting dynamics, including the emotional depth behind their music. The light-hearted exploration of social media interactions and sexuality in the '60s brings a fresh perspective on iconic figures. Plus, a special guest makes a brief but noteworthy appearance!

Oct 14, 2022 • 1h 24min
Who’s the Boss? The Fluidity of Leadership w/in the Lennon/McCartney Dyad
Dive into the intricate dynamics of Lennon and McCartney's collaboration! The discussion sheds light on the misinterpretations and societal narratives around their partnership. Emotional bonds, uncommunicated feelings, and the impact of gendered language reshape perceptions of their roles. Explore the influence of 'Sgt. Pepper' on their creative tension and the humorous chaos during the 'Let It Be' era. Uncover the duality of John Lennon’s persona and celebrate the mutual inspiration that defined their iconic legacy.

Sep 20, 2022 • 1h 28min
Queering the Beatles: AKOM Talks w/ Caleb Nichols
SUMMARY
AKOM welcomes Caleb Nichols to discuss their new album Ramon, a Beatles-inspired rock operetta.
Caleb, Daphne and Phoebe chat about The Gay Agenda, Brian Epstein, Bisexual John Lennon, Queering History and the special influence of Queer people and culture on the Beatles Story and Universe.
PLAYLIST
Listen to the Beatles CALEB NICHOLS (2022)
Ramon CALEB NICHOLS (2022)
Captain Custard CALEB NICHOLS (2022)
Mustard’s Mood CALEB NICHOLS (2022)
Jerome CALEB NICHOLS (2022)
SOURCES
“Caleb Nichols on Queering the Beatles” Talk House (July 22, 2022)
https://www.talkhouse.com/what-made-mr-mustard-such-a-mean-old-man
Caleb’s website: https://www.calebnicholsis.gay/on-tour
"Caleb Nichols’ ‘RAMON’ Gives The Beatles’ Mean Mr. Mustard Respect" by Adam Sobsey (June 24, 2022) https://www.popmatters.com/caleb-nichols-ramon-review
The Fifth Beatle: The Brian Epstein Story by Vivek J. Tiwary (October 25, 2016)
Glitter Up the Dark: How Pop Music Broke the Binary by Sasha Geffen (April 7, 2020)
Blotto Beatles Episode 47 “Rob Boys (feat. Caleb Nichols)
A League of Their Own (film) by Penny Marshall (1992)
A League of Their Own (tv series) by Will Graham and Abbi Jacobson (2022)
Abbi Jacobson “Showing More Stories on a League of Their Own” Daily Show
https://youtu.be/T8pylHidIYE
Ramon video https://youtu.be/ZsaGxpLH2N8
Jerome video https://youtu.be/UBA0Kzl1EYA

Sep 15, 2022 • 1h 43min
A Mistake in Many Ways: Ep5B I Want to Give Him That Divorce
Dive into the intense emotional landscape of Paul's feelings about Yoko Ono, showcasing jealousy and personal priorities. Explore McCartney's journey to a more authentic life, contrasting his past with newfound family joys. Discover the darker side of Lennon-McCartney dynamics, including the impact of bullying. Uncover the controversy surrounding the remix of 'The Long and Winding Road,' revealing power struggles and creative tensions. Reflect on the complex relationships within the band, questioning if deep bonds can endure amidst conflicts.

Sep 15, 2022 • 1h 47min
A Mistake in Many Ways: Ep5A I Want to Give Him That Divorce
Paul McCartney, the legendary Beatle and prolific songwriter, joins his bandmate John Lennon, known for his iconic voice and candid personality. They dive into the emotional turmoil surrounding their breakup, exploring key tensions from Phil Spector’s production to Paul's pivotal interview revealing deeper issues. The duo reflects on their bond, competition, and the jealousy fueled by personal relationships, particularly with Yoko Ono. They ponder whether their iconic partnership could have survived amidst misunderstandings, revealing both fragility and mutual respect.
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