
Data Mesh Radio
Interviews with data mesh practitioners, deep dives/how-tos, anti-patterns, panels, chats (not debates) with skeptics, "mesh musings", and so much more. Host Scott Hirleman (founder of the Data Mesh Learning Community) shares his learnings - and those of the broader data community - from over a year of deep diving into data mesh.
Each episode contains a BLUF - bottom line, up front - so you can quickly absorb a few key takeaways and also decide if an episode will be useful to you - nothing worse than listening for 20+ minutes before figuring out if a podcast episode is going to be interesting and/or incremental ;) Hoping to provide quality transcripts in the future - if you want to help, please reach out!
Data Mesh Radio is also looking for guests to share their experience with data mesh! Even if that experience is 'I am confused, let's chat about' some specific topic. Yes, that could be you! You can check out our guest and feedback FAQ, including how to submit your name to be a guest and how to submit feedback - including anonymously if you want - here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dDdb1mEhmcYqx3xYAvPuM1FZMuGiCszyY9x8X250KuQ/edit?usp=sharing
Data Mesh Radio is committed to diversity and inclusion. This includes in our guests and guest hosts. If you are part of a minoritized group, please see this as an open invitation to being a guest, so please hit the link above.
If you are looking for additional useful information on data mesh, we recommend the community resources from Data Mesh Learning. All are vendor independent. https://datameshlearning.com/community/
You should also follow Zhamak Dehghani (founder of the data mesh concept); she posts a lot of great things on LinkedIn and has a wonderful data mesh book through O'Reilly. Plus, she's just a nice person: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zhamak-dehghani/detail/recent-activity/shares/
Data Mesh Radio is provided as a free community resource by DataStax. If you need a database that is easy to scale - read: serverless - but also easy to develop for - many APIs including gRPC, REST, JSON, GraphQL, etc. all of which are OSS under the Stargate project - check out DataStax's AstraDB service :) Built on Apache Cassandra, AstraDB is very performant and oh yeah, is also multi-region/multi-cloud so you can focus on scaling your company, not your database. There's a free forever tier for poking around/home projects and you can also use code DAAP500 for a $500 free credit (apply under payment options): https://www.datastax.com/products/datastax-astra?utm_source=DataMeshRadio
Latest episodes

Dec 25, 2023 โข 60min
#280 Enabling Your Domains to Create Maintainable Data Products - Interview w/ Alexandra Diem, PhD
Alexandra Diem, an expert in creating maintainable data products, shares insights on data mesh and enabling domains to create maintainable data products. They discuss applying software engineering best practices to data, the role of a data leader in an organization, maximizing value with a centralized data warehouse, introducing minimum viable concepts in data products, the importance of hypothesis testing and culture change in data analysis, explaining data mesh to new people, and enabling data teams and finding solutions for data usage and governance.

Dec 24, 2023 โข 28min
Weekly Episode Summaries and Programming Notes โ Week of December 24, 2023
The podcast discusses upcoming episodes and future plans, including comprehensive reports and listener contributions. It features an interview on building maintainable data products with a focus on consumer alignment. The approach of the producing team in sharing data products is explored, along with challenges and advice on communicating DataMesh. The role and importance of data contracts in DataMesh are discussed, including trust, interoperability, and accountability.

Dec 22, 2023 โข 19min
#279 Driving Towards a Cohesive Developer Experience - At the Expense of Snowflake and Databricks? - Zhamak's Corner 32
Topics discussed include challenges of integrating technologies in data, need for simpler developer experience, driving towards decoupled and API-driven data approach, importance of simplicity in data mesh transition, and building simple interfaces for data products.

Dec 18, 2023 โข 1h 19min
#278 Data Contracts for the Rest of Us - Approaching Contracts in Evolving Companies - Interview w/ Ryan Collingwood
Ryan Collingwood, Head of Data and Analytics at OrotonGroup, discusses the importance of empathy in data activities and the need to build relationships and trust. They highlight the challenges faced by non-tech-heavy companies in implementing technical solutions like Data Mesh and Data Contracts. The podcast also explores approaching contracts in evolving companies, visualizing data contracts, reviewing data in a retrospective, the fallacy of precision in data, and the importance of empathy and self-awareness in communication and relationship-building.

Dec 17, 2023 โข 15min
Weekly Episode Summaries and Programming Notes โ Week of December 17, 2023
Sign up for Data Mesh Understanding's free roundtable and introduction programs here: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice!If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see hereEpisode list and links to all available episode transcripts here.Provided as a free resource by Data Mesh Understanding / Scott Hirleman. Get in touch with Scott on LinkedIn if you want to chat data mesh.If you want to learn more and/or join the Data Mesh Learning Community, see here: https://datameshlearning.com/community/All music used this episode was found on PixaBay and was created by (including slight edits by Scott Hirleman): Lesfm, MondayHopes, SergeQuadrado, ItsWatR, Lexin_Music, and/or nevesf

Dec 15, 2023 โข 14min
#277 Mesh Momentum Versus Value - What to Choose When and Why - Mesh Musings 57
This podcast discusses the importance of gradually building value over time in a DataMesh implementation and starting with low-risk data products. It highlights the significance of internal support and sponsorship in mesh transformations and the need to strike a balance between momentum and value. Additionally, it explores the challenges of maintaining momentum and balancing wins in DataMesh initiatives.

Dec 11, 2023 โข 1h 3min
#276 Making Self-Service Actually Work Well Safely - Interview w/ Kate Carruthers
Scott interviews Kate Carruthers, Head Of Business Intelligence at UNSW AI Institute, about self-service and data mesh in universities. They discuss the importance of enabling domain experts to own and share their own data safely. Kate emphasizes building relationships, involving humans in governance, and avoiding insecure data copying. They also talk about the challenges of building data tools, making fundamental decisions, and maintaining momentum in data mesh adoption.

Dec 10, 2023 โข 15min
Weekly Episode Summaries and Programming Notes โ Week of December 10, 2023
Sign up for Data Mesh Understanding's free roundtable and introduction programs here: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice!If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see hereEpisode list and links to all available episode transcripts here.Provided as a free resource by Data Mesh Understanding / Scott Hirleman. Get in touch with Scott on LinkedIn if you want to chat data mesh.If you want to learn more and/or join the Data Mesh Learning Community, see here: https://datameshlearning.com/community/All music used this episode was found on PixaBay and was created by (including slight edits by Scott Hirleman): Lesfm, MondayHopes, SergeQuadrado, ItsWatR, Lexin_Music, and/or nevesf

Dec 8, 2023 โข 1h 6min
#275 Panel: Why Data Mesh Needs Digital and Org Transformation - Led by Benny Benford w/ Nailya Sabirzyanova, Iulia Varvara, and Stefan Zima
Guests Nailya Sabirzyanova, Iulia Varvara, and Stefan Zima discuss the importance of digital and organizational transformation in implementing Data Mesh. They cover topics such as starting points in transformation initiatives, collaboration with business stakeholders, the role of design and technical authorities in certifying data products, the continuous nature of transformation, using stories to drive change, and advice for starting the Data Mesh journey.

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Dec 4, 2023 โข 1h 2min
#274 Your Data Platform is a Product, Treat it Like One! - Interview w/ Sean Gustafson
Interview with Sean Gustafson, expert in data platforms. Key takeaways: impact culture through data platform, role of product manager, treating data products like APIs, challenges of building a data mesh, and importance of data platforms in transformation.
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