
Data Mesh Radio
Interviews with data mesh practitioners, deep dives/how-tos, anti-patterns, panels, chats (not debates) with skeptics, "mesh musings", and so much more. Host Scott Hirleman (founder of the Data Mesh Learning Community) shares his learnings - and those of the broader data community - from over a year of deep diving into data mesh.
Each episode contains a BLUF - bottom line, up front - so you can quickly absorb a few key takeaways and also decide if an episode will be useful to you - nothing worse than listening for 20+ minutes before figuring out if a podcast episode is going to be interesting and/or incremental ;) Hoping to provide quality transcripts in the future - if you want to help, please reach out!
Data Mesh Radio is also looking for guests to share their experience with data mesh! Even if that experience is 'I am confused, let's chat about' some specific topic. Yes, that could be you! You can check out our guest and feedback FAQ, including how to submit your name to be a guest and how to submit feedback - including anonymously if you want - here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dDdb1mEhmcYqx3xYAvPuM1FZMuGiCszyY9x8X250KuQ/edit?usp=sharing
Data Mesh Radio is committed to diversity and inclusion. This includes in our guests and guest hosts. If you are part of a minoritized group, please see this as an open invitation to being a guest, so please hit the link above.
If you are looking for additional useful information on data mesh, we recommend the community resources from Data Mesh Learning. All are vendor independent. https://datameshlearning.com/community/
You should also follow Zhamak Dehghani (founder of the data mesh concept); she posts a lot of great things on LinkedIn and has a wonderful data mesh book through O'Reilly. Plus, she's just a nice person: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zhamak-dehghani/detail/recent-activity/shares/
Data Mesh Radio is provided as a free community resource by DataStax. If you need a database that is easy to scale - read: serverless - but also easy to develop for - many APIs including gRPC, REST, JSON, GraphQL, etc. all of which are OSS under the Stargate project - check out DataStax's AstraDB service :) Built on Apache Cassandra, AstraDB is very performant and oh yeah, is also multi-region/multi-cloud so you can focus on scaling your company, not your database. There's a free forever tier for poking around/home projects and you can also use code DAAP500 for a $500 free credit (apply under payment options): https://www.datastax.com/products/datastax-astra?utm_source=DataMeshRadio
Latest episodes

Jan 21, 2024 • 4min
Major Programming Announcement
Podcast announces major changes due to health and financial issues, transitions to one episode per week, discontinues segments. Host reflects on producing solo for 300 episodes, plans for future content focus on diverse voices, format changes, and commitment to diversity in data mesh community.

Jan 19, 2024 • 1h 5min
#288 Panel: Master Data Management in a Data Mesh World - Led by Ole Olesen-Bagneux w/ Liz Henderson, Piethein Strengholt, and Samia Rahman
A panel discussion led by Ole Olesen-Bagneux featuring Liz Henderson, Piethein Strengholt, and Samia Rahman explores Master Data Management in a Data Mesh world. They discuss challenges and strategies in implementing MDM, the role of aggregate and core data, the importance of ubiquitous language, addressing metadata in data mesh, industry variations in MDM, the significance of describing and documenting data, and the role of MDM in achieving faster time to value.

Jan 17, 2024 • 56min
#287 Driving Data Value Through Creativity, Curiosity, Collaboration, and Communication - Interview w/ Tiankai Feng
In this episode, Tiankai Feng, an expert in driving data value through creativity, curiosity, collaboration, and communication, discusses the importance of driving value through data work, the role of creativity in problem-solving and data professionals, the significance of governance in driving data value and autonomy, and the importance of balancing confidence and knowledge when working with data.

Jan 15, 2024 • 54min
#286 Mastering Master Data Management in a Modern World - Interview w/ Sue Geuens
In this episode, Sue Geuens discusses mastering Master Data Management in a modern world. She emphasizes the importance of prioritization and engagement in data governance, using personalized communication and storytelling. The episode also explores the challenges of pushing ownership of data upstream and the value of investment and trust.

Jan 12, 2024 • 19min
#285 Getting Depth and Value From Generative AI - In Data Mesh and in General - Zhamak's Corner 33
The podcast explores the current impact and challenges of generative AI within data mesh. It emphasizes the need for reliable access to data products for machine learning engineers. The role of generative AI in data discovery is also discussed, including its potential in generating data models and providing context for data products.

Jan 8, 2024 • 1h 3min
#284 Breaking Down the Monolith - Incentivizing Good Choices - Interview w/ Frederik Nielsen
Frederik Nielsen, Engineering Manager at Pandora, discusses the importance of data technology and architecture choices and how they incentivize certain behaviors. Key takeaways include building a composable platform, decentralization, and starting with a narrow focus when implementing DataMesh. They also explore challenges such as decomposing the monolith, communicating the value of DataMesh, and implementing personalization in a scalable data mesh.

Jan 5, 2024 • 20min
#283 Selling Data Mesh to Your C-Suite and Board - Mesh Musing 58
Mesh Musing, a guest on data mesh, discusses the strategy of introducing data mesh to non-technical stakeholders. They emphasize aligning data work with business goals and the advantages of being early adopters. The podcast also explores the role of data collection and analysis in making informed business decisions. It emphasizes the importance of using data to stay competitive in the market and the need for a strong foundation in data-driven decision making.

Jan 1, 2024 • 1h 16min
#282 Not Sweating the Small Stuff in Data Mesh - Interview w/ Mandeep Kaur
In this episode, Mandeep Kaur, an Enterprise Information Architect at Nordea Asset Management, discusses the challenges and best practices of implementing Data Mesh. Some key takeaways include not overthinking decisions, bringing value out quickly, and prioritizing evolution over completion. Effective communication and finding ambassadors for organizational initiatives are also highlighted. Additionally, the importance of incremental delivery of value, the power of data in driving business forward, and the need for adaptation and improvement are discussed.

Dec 31, 2023 • 15min
Weekly Episode Summaries and Programming Notes – Week of December 31, 2023
Sign up for Data Mesh Understanding's free roundtable and introduction programs here: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice!If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see hereEpisode list and links to all available episode transcripts here.Provided as a free resource by Data Mesh Understanding / Scott Hirleman. Get in touch with Scott on LinkedIn if you want to chat data mesh.If you want to learn more and/or join the Data Mesh Learning Community, see here: https://datameshlearning.com/community/All music used this episode was found on PixaBay and was created by (including slight edits by Scott Hirleman): Lesfm, MondayHopes, SergeQuadrado, ItsWatR, Lexin_Music, and/or nevesf

Dec 29, 2023 • 1h 6min
#281 Panel: Data Contracts and Data Mesh - Led by Jean-Georges Perrin w/ Amy Raygada and Andrew Jones
In this episode, guest host Jean-Georges Perrin discusses data contracts with Amy Raygada and Andrew Jones. They explore the role of data contracts in data mesh, the need for automation and collaboration, and the challenge of motivating data producers. They also discuss the key elements of a data contract and share their perspectives on multiple contracts. The episode emphasizes the importance of sharing ideas and feedback for improvement and provides links to connect with the guests.
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