This Is TASTE

Aliza Abarbanel & Matt Rodbard
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Jan 16, 2023 • 1h 4min

178: Jamie Oliver

Jamie Oliver returns to the show, and we could not be happier to talk with him about so many things. For those who didn’t grow up watching food TV, here’s the deal. Jamie pioneered a form of food television that brought cameras into the home in a way not previously seen. When The Naked Chef debuted on BBC Two in the UK and the Food Network in the United States in 1999, home cooking on TV was a stand-and-stir affair. Here, a young and floppy Oliver was cooking real food from a cool East London flat, talking viewers through the relative simplicity of making dinner. Oliver has gone on to write numerous cookbooks (selling 50 million in the UK alone) and create food TV that expanded beyond cooking, producing documentaries about the sugar industry and school lunches that transitioned his work from dude food evangelist to heartier activism. His latest book, One: Simple One-Pan Wonders, is out now.Oliver was a joy to have on the program, and we talked about spice blends, Cool Britannia, the sugar tax, Jamie’s future in UK politics, and what sparks creativity for a guy who is always working on three projects at once. This was such a great talk, and we hope you enjoy it.Also on the show, Aliza and Matt catch up to talk about what’s underrated and overrated (protein bars, savory granola), before diving into a discussion about starlight mints, the Werther’s children, and the Holiday Inn Holidome.More from Jamie Oliver: Jamie Oliver’s Sneaker Game Needs No Seasoning [High Snobbery] Jamie Oliver Dishes Up Easy & Affordable One-Pot Recipes [The View] Miso Roasted Chicken [GMA] Superiority Burger [IG]
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Jan 12, 2023 • 39min

177: Frankie Gaw

Frankie Gaw is the author of a new cookbook, First Generation, and one of the most original voices writing in food today. In this episode, we talk about his journey from working at Facebook to authoring his book, which is part recipe collection and part memoir. We also talk about his love of Costco, and cooking with Reese’s Puffs cereal (two things we can also get behind). We hope you enjoy this conversation—it’s a good one.More from Frankie Gaw: Frankie Gaw’s Kitchen Is Filled With Dumplings and Dorito Dust [TASTE] Frankie Gaw’s Ideal Seattle Day Is Packed Full of Food [Dwell] Little Fat Boy [official]
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Jan 10, 2023 • 30min

176: Eunji Lee

Eunji Lee is a pastry chef running one of New York City’s most exciting new dessert spots, Lysée. Eunji was born in Korea and trained in France before working at some of the world’s top restaurants, including at Alain Ducasse’s Le Meurice in Paris and serving as the pastry chef at Jungsik in New York. Now she has her own dessert studio, Lysée, which has become one of the hottest tickets in the city. On this episode, we find out what it was like competing on one of France’s most popular cooking reality shows and what drives her to create some of America’s finest desserts. This is such a sweet conversation. We hope you enjoy it.More from Eunji Lee: An Ambitious Pastry Chef Debuts Her Own Dessert Palace in Flatiron [Eater] It’s Corn [Instagram] Lysée’s Pastries Reflect Korea, France and New York [NYT] Buy: Plating Dessert
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Jan 6, 2023 • 37min

175: Omsom

From Otafuku’s OtaJoy yakisoba to Maya Kaimal tikka masala to Hamburger Helper, the dump-and-stir sauté sauce has been part of our cooking vocabulary for a generation—and for good reason. Packed with powerful flavors and the vapors of nostalgia blowing through a kitchen within minutes, these pouches, bottles, and jars can transform a kitchen in Tulsa to a stove in Kerala, Osaka, Seoul, or Tuscany. Kim Pham, cofounder of start-up food company Omsom, grew up with these sauces in her life, too. In this really cool episode, we speak with Kim about what the journey has been to found one of the most exciting brands in food. We find out about what inspires the company’s sauce research and development process, and we tap into the empathy needed to run a startup in 2023. We hope you enjoy this wonderful talk.More from Kim Pham: A Quest to Reinvent the Homemade Sauce [TASTE]  Meet the Tastemaker: Deuki Hong of Sunday Family [Omsom]
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Jan 3, 2023 • 1h 1min

174: John deBary

John deBary is a bartender extraordinaire, a cookbook author, and a great spokesperson for the bar and restaurant world. This being the start of “dry January” (for those who celebrate), we wanted to have John on to talk about the rise of the nonalcoholic (NA) movement and how spiritless drinking is hardly without spirit. We find out what it was like launching his own NA brand and what the future holds for the term “mixologist.” We always love catching up with John and hope you enjoy this conversation.More from John DeBary: From Bartending to Building a Drinks Company [Eater] Recipe: The Shark Pre-order: Saved by the Bellini
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Dec 28, 2022 • 50min

173: Drip Coffee Makers

"Slow down and have coffee” are some great words to live by, especially if you love coffee as much as Nigel Price—the owner and creative force behind one of the most exciting coffee operations in America: Drip Coffee Makers. On this very exciting episode, we catch up with one of the coolest guys in coffee. We talk about why Nigel loves pour-over coffee so much, as well as some of the big problems with espresso. We also discuss how New Yorkers are embracing his very unique style of service. We’re huge fans of Nigel’s work, and we were so happy he stopped by the studio. Follow Drip on Instagram.More from Nigel Price: A Strong Case for Slow Coffee [TASTE] Now Pouring at Drip: Coffee Worth Slowing Down For [Bushwick Daily] TASTE Podcast 144: Jimmy Butler [TASTE]
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Dec 26, 2022 • 1h 12min

172: Tammie Teclemariam

Today on the show, we have a great time catching up with Tammie Teclemariam. Tammie is a New York–based writer who, for the past year, served as New York magazine’s The Year I Ate New York columnist—which, as the name suggests, was a rigorous look at New York’s techno-colored dining scene. We find out how she pulled it off, talk about some of her best and worst meals, and learn what’s next for one of our favorite food writers in the game.More from Tammie Teclemariam: The Best (and Worst) of the Year I Ate New York [NY Mag] What’s Wrong with Cocktails Right Now? [NY Mag] Caraflex Is the Ultimate Cabbage Flex [TASTE] Scalloped > Mashed [TASTE]
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Dec 22, 2022 • 52min

171: Zosia Mamet

Today on the show, we have a really amazing conversation with Zosia Mamet. Zosia is an actor, best known for roles on Mad Men, The Flight Attendant, and Girls. She’s also the editor of My First Popsicle: An Anthology of Food and Feelings, a really wonderful collection of short (sometimes very short) stories from a unique cast of characters—fellow actors, food writers, comedians, and novelists. These include Tony Hale, Patti LuPone, Ted Danson, Ruth Reichl, and Jia Tolentino, and we talk about this unique collaboration. We also find out about who does the best craft service (“crafty”) on set, stealing cereal from The Michael J Fox Show, filming in Japan, and knowing her way around a pie or pumpkin bread. Fun stuff. Also on the show, we continue our conversation about culinary school with Clarkson Potter editorial assistant Bianca Cruz. We’ve been following Bianca’s journey from school to stage and we find out how she did on her final exam and which big-time NYC kitchen she’s currently working in. More from Zosia Mamet: Zosia Mamet Shares Swedish Fish With Her Horse [Grub Street]  Some Favorite Food Spots [Apple Maps] Eclectic, Nourishing Collection of Essays on Food and Feelings [Shondaland] Zosia Mamet’s Week: Log Cabin Living [NYT]
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Dec 20, 2022 • 56min

170: Jason Diamond

Today on the show, we welcome one of our favorite writers in the game, Jason Diamond. Jason runs the wonderful newsletter The Melt and has written two books, Searching for John Hughes and The Sprawl: Reconsidering the Weird American Suburbs. In this action-packed episode, we cover a great many topics: Spago Rock, time travel, forgotten foods of Chicago, burger night in the Diamond household, and the enigmatic restaurateur Keith McNally. This is only a fraction of what we discuss, and I really hope you enjoy our talk.More from Jason Diamond: That Wolfgang Puck Sound [The Melt]   Auteurcore: How Vintage Movie Merch Became Cool [GQ]  Is PJ Clarke’s the Perfect NYC Dining Experience? [The Melt] A Kinder, Gentler Explorecore [The Melt]
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Dec 16, 2022 • 57min

169: Cynthia Shanmugalingam

Since Cynthia Shanmugalingam was young, she has witnessed the food of her ancestral home, Sri Lanka, through her immigrant parents’ kitchen in London. In this really fun episode, we talk with Cynthia about living in both worlds, as well as how she transitioned from working in finance to writing a cookbook, Rambutan, and opening a restaurant, all in the same year. We also find out what it was like to photograph the book on location with a friend of the show, Alex Lau. Also on, Matt catches up with three of our favorite cookbook authors to talk all about holiday cooking, gifting, and how to save the day—when the day needs saving. We hope you enjoy Matt’s conversation with Melissa Clark, Suzy Karadsheh, and Claire Saffitz. More from Cynthia Shanmugalingam: A Chef’s Secret Ingredient: Fresh Curry Leaves [The Guardian] Cynthia Shanmugalingam Thinks Fish Curry Is ‘One of Life’s Great Pleasures’ [Eater] Buy: Rambutan

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