
The Optimal Body
Join top-40 Physical Therapy Influencer, Doc Jen, and her Physical Therapy husband Dr. Dom, as they bring you the body tips and PT Pearls you need to help you understand your body, relieve your pains and restrictions, and answer your questions. Along with expert guests, the goal of The Optimal Body is to help you discover what optimal means in your own body.
Latest episodes

Oct 16, 2023 • 32min
326 | Our Tips to Avoid & Improve Low Back Pain
Tune into part 1 of our back pain series where DocJen and Dr. Dom dive into the most aggravated and common pain point in the back - Low Back Pain. DocJen and Dr. Dom dive into what may be causing your recurrent lower back pain, whether all your lower back needs are stability and the biopsychosocial model with emphasis on what the biological aspect includes. Through anatomy, they explain the mobility-stability continuum and what it means to develop control over the body. By providing your solution, they discuss the relevance of using external load and building resilience.
What You Will Learn In This PT Pearl:
3:41 - What is causing recurrent low back pain?
4:56 - Does the lower back just need more stability? Fear-avoidance behaviour
7:32 - Biopsychosocial Model
9:16 - The biological aspect is not just biomechanical
11:34 - Mobility-Stability within the body
15:53 - The importance of awareness and control of the body
17:44 - What is the core? And, the importance of the breath?
20:37 - Adding external load
24:46 - Your solution.
To Watch the PT Pearl on YouTube, click here: https://youtube.com/watch/
For research and full show notes, visit the full website at: https://www.docjenfit.com/podcast/episode326/

Oct 9, 2023 • 39min
325 | How Float Therapy Helps Improve Stress, Chronic Pain and Mineral Deficiencies with Maxwell Casa
Ever heard of Float therapy? Sensory Deprivation? In this episode, we unravel the mysteries surrounding float therapy, its benefits, what it means to open up your magnesium stores, and the intriguing impact of sensory deprivation on our health with Maxwell Casa. Imagine immersing yourself in a tranquil, weightless space where you float effortlessly in a high-density magnesium solution. We explore its potential to promote relaxation, reduce stress, and enhance overall well-being. Uncovering the effects of eliminating external stimuli, we dive into how this can positively influence our mental and physical health. Then, we delve into the advantages of transdermal magnesium versus the oral form, along with the symptoms of magnesium deficiency. We break down the ideal dose and frequency to maximize its benefits and whether it is advisable for pregnant women! Let's dive in!
What You Will Learn In This Interview with Maxwell Casa
04:59 -What is float therapy?
07:31 - What is sensory deprivation and its impact on our health?
10:31 - How did Max get involved with Floating therapy?
14:31 - Experiences during sensory deprivation
17:06 - Top 3 benefits of floating therapy
20:33 - Benefit of transdermal magnesium vs oral magnesium
24:06 - Symptoms of magnesium deficiency
25:41 - Dose and frequency for float therapy to see benefits
28:02 - Contraindications with pregnancy
30:41 - Can you consume too much magnesium?
33:57 - Epsom Salt
33:11 - Explore more with Maxwell Casa
To learn more about Maxwell Casa and view full show notes, please visit the full website here: here: https://www.docjenfit.com/podcast/episode325
Thank you so much for checking out this episode of The Optimal Body Podcast. If you haven’t done so already, please take a minute to subscribe and leave a quick rating and review of the show!

Oct 2, 2023 • 24min
324 | Peroneal Tendinitis: Pain on the Outside of your Ankle?
Been diagnosed with Peroneal Tendinitis? Or experiencing pain on the outside of your ankles? DocJen and Dr. Dom have got you covered in this episode explaining what the peroneals are, their function within the feet and ankle complex, who is affected most by Peroneal Tendinitis, and what is actually contributing to your symptoms. Believe it or not, it may not be what the 'itis' suffix suggests! Therefore, tune in to learn more about how it is a tendinosis injury as well as how you can begin to address your symptoms through a 5-step protocol! Let's dive in!
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What You Will Learn In This PT Pearl:
1:50 - Anatomy: What are the peroneal?
3:13 - Function: What do the peroneals do?
4:43 - Pathology: Who is affected and what is happening internally?
5:30 - Is it really tendonitis?
14:30 - Rehab: Stretch, Mobilize, Strengthen, Re-gain Proprioception
To Watch the PT Pearl on YouTube, click here: https://youtube.com/watch/
For research and full show notes, visit the full website at: https://www.docjenfit.com/podcast/episode324/

Sep 25, 2023 • 46min
323 | Overcoming Chronic Pain with Ashleigh Di Lello
We go back to 13 years of age when Ashleigh Di Lello describes her experience with her first health scare and walks us through the road to getting her health back when the works of the medical system failed to competently support her health journey. Then, she dives into her second health scare, speaking into chronic pain science and how the nervous system was shifted through these traumatic health experiences. By manipulating her mindset, she speaks into the brain behind the pain and how she used principles of bio-emotional healing to battle setbacks and progressions through her pain journey. Unlock top tips as you tune into Ashleigh's story.
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What You Will Learn In This Interview with Ashleigh Di Lello
03:02 - The journey from 13 years old.
08:06 - The road to getting health back: food and the immune system
11:44 - The second struggle: a failed hip surgery
17:40 - Pain knowledge back then vs. now
22:50 - Is pain all the in head?
26:47 - Bioemotional Healing & Taking Power Back
33:21 - How long will it take to get out of chronic pain?
38:44 - Battling progression vs. setbacks with pain
42:58 - How to experience bio-emotional healing?
To learn more about Ashleigh Di Lello and view full show notes, please visit the full website here: here: https://www.docjenfit.com/podcast/episode323
Thank you so much for checking out this episode of The Optimal Body Podcast. If you haven’t done so already, please take a minute to subscribe and leave a quick rating and review of the show!

Sep 18, 2023 • 26min
322 | High Hamstring Strains: Pain Under The Butt
Are you struggling with pain under the butt? DocJen and Dr. Dom dive into this overuse injury that often affects hypermobile individuals or anyone who encounters a lot of deceleration, such as athletes. As they describe the anatomy involved in high hamstring strains or proximal hamstring tendinopathy, they dive into contributing factors and dive into the four stages of rehabilitation based on clinical case studies and their clinical experience as doctors of physical therapy. Tune in to learn more!
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What You Will Learn In This PT Pearl:
1:36 - What is high hamstring strain?
2:40 - How does it come about?
5:44 - Who is at risk?
7:44 - Phases of rehabilitation
9:00 - First phase for Rehab
11:04 - Second phase of rehab
14:21 - Third Phase of rehab
16:01 - Fourth Phase of rehab
19:00 - Pain tolerance during rehab
21:50 - What does the research say about weak links associated with high hamstring strain?
To Watch the PT Pearl on YouTube, click here: https://youtube.com/watch/
For research and full show notes, visit the full website at: https://www.docjenfit.com/podcast/episode322/

Sep 11, 2023 • 53min
321 | Using NAD+ to Improve Healthspan & Longetivity with Dr. She
Have you heard of taking NAD+ for longevity? We have Dr. She to break down what NAD+ is and its essential role in energy, inflammation, and oxidative stress. With a particular emphasis on aging and longevity, Dr. She discusses signs of aging, whether aging can be reversed, and how the Vitality Boost product contains everything you need to optimize your energy and balance within the body. Finally, Dr. She speaks into the details of NAD and Vitamin D supplementation, how NAD+ can support pregnancy and lactation, whether supplementation can replace a 'healthy' lifestyle, and how testing and medical care can be more affordable. Let's dive in!
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What You Will Learn In This Interview with Dr. She
02:10 - What got Dr. She involved in Medicine
05:26 - Why does Dr. She go down the research route vs. clinical practice?
06:36 - Why did Dr. She choose to focus on aging and longevity?
09:26 - Signs of aging
11:21 - Can we reverse these aging processes?
15:03 - How to consistently test affordability?
19:18 - Is optimizing NAD going to matter if you live an "unhealthy" lifestyle
25:41 - What is special about Vitality Boost vs. other NAD: supplements
29:54 - Using NAD to Optimize Pregnancy
34:53 - Dosage, Frequency, and How You Can Supplement NAD!
38:43 - What to take along with NAD+
46:04 - The medical system & parenting
To learn more about Dr. She and view full show notes, please visit the full website here: here: https://www.docjenfit.com/podcast/episode321
Thank you so much for checking out this episode of The Optimal Body Podcast. If you haven’t done so already, please take a minute to subscribe and leave a quick rating and review of the show!

Sep 4, 2023 • 21min
320 | Do I Have Overactive Quads?
Are you struggling with tight quads? Perhaps you feel everything in your quads? DocJen and Dr. Dom speak into tight and overactive quadriceps, explaining its possible root cause, it’s relevance to coordination during exercise, and how you can begin to address it! Let’s dive in!
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What You Will Learn In This PT Pearl:
3:21 - Why you’re getting tight or overactive quadriceps
7:44 - How do we address it?
9:30 - Working with the Squat
12:09 - Progressing from mobility to strength
13:23 - Tightness might not mean Strength & using external feedback
16:17 - Hinge vs Squat
17:28 - Single leg drills
To Watch the PT Pearl on YouTube, click here: https://youtube.com/watch/
For research and full show notes, visit the full website at: https://www.docjenfit.com/podcast/episode320/
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Aug 28, 2023 • 49min
319 | Breaking Down Rehab Science with Dr. Tom Walters
From pain to passive treatment to posture to bad movement to education, Dr. Tom Walters takes a deep dive into pain. Dr. Walters explains how to identify when your pain needs to be checked out and what kind of pain may be appropriate for tissue adaptation. He explains the 6 types of pains we can experience, the importance of language when it comes to addressing pain, whether things can be 'fixed' through rehabilitation, and the role of posture when it comes to movement. By honing in on education. Dr. Tom Walters exposes the truths and debunks the myths around pain, teaching you how to decipher between types of pain to get the appropriate help you need. Let's dive in!
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What You Will Learn In This Interview with Dr. Tom Walters
06:21 - What was the goal for the Rehab Science?
07:10 - How to make a program that helps the masses?
12:53 - How do you know if your pain should be checked out?
15:50 - Should you continue with pain during rehab?
20:08 - Understanding Pain
21:08 - Debunking terms to describe pains
25:58 - Should you need to come back to get something “fixed”?
33:05 - Symptom modifying interventions
34:27 - Does posture matter?
37:43 - Are some movements bad?
41:27 - Educating Patients
45:06 - Where can you buy “Rehab Science”
To learn more about Dr. Tom Walters and view full show notes, please visit the full website here: here: https://www.docjenfit.com/podcast/episode319
Thank you so much for checking out this episode of The Optimal Body Podcast. If you haven’t done so already, please take a minute to subscribe and leave a quick rating and review of the show!

Aug 21, 2023 • 19min
318 | What To Do About Turf Toe
By popular request, DocJen and Dr. Dom dive into Turf Toe and what is happening within the body during this diagnosis. They explore who is most affected and what types of activities exacerbate the risk of turf toe. Then, they dive into how turf toe is diagnosed based on three grades and how this affects rehabilitation, describing exercises and tips you can try. Let us dive in!
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You can still join the pelvic floor foundations course. For being a part of our podcast family, use code 'OPTIMAL' to get an extra discount at checkout. It's a 15-day educational course that will take you 8-15 minutes a day, educating you on what the pelvic floor is and how to use the pelvic floor functionality throughout life. You'll receive access to educational resources, a workbook, an automated calendar, daily accountability, support, and a private call with a specialized pelvic floor physical therapist. And, you automatically get entered into a prize draw when you sign up! BONUS: lifetime access to this course. Join us!
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**Vivo offers a 100-Day trial period. If you are not completely satisfied, you can send the shoes back and get a refund.
What You Will Learn In This PT Pearl:
02:13 - What is happening with turf toe?
05:12 - Who is affected the most ?
06:49 - Grades of turf toe & the use of ice
12:11 - Grade 1 and Grade 2 Injuries - Phases of rehabilitation
17:42 - How to explore what YOU need
To Watch the PT Pearl on YouTube, click here: https://youtube.com/watch/
For research and full show notes, visit the full website at: https://www.docjenfit.com/podcast/episode318/

Aug 14, 2023 • 50min
317 | Myths vs Facts about Diastasis Recti with Antony Lo
Can non-pregnant individuals have Diastasis Recti? Antony Lo takes a deep dive into all things core, diastasis recti, and pelvic floor. By describing the medical definition for diastasis recti, he highlights how it can affect anyone but is most commonly presented amongst those who are pregnant. He highlights the degree to which diastasis recti is “normal,” myths surrounding core, movement and how it relates to diastasis recti, as well as what rehabilitation may include. Finally, he briefly delves into function over appearance and what it means to load the body for adaptation. Let’s dive in!
DISCOUNT: Pelvic Floor Foundations Course
It's early bird pricing this week only (ends 07/11). For being a part of our podcast family, use code 'OPTIMAL' to get an extra discount, on top of the discounted price, at checkout. It's a 15-day educational course that will take you 8-15 minutes a day, educating you on what the pelvic floor is and how to use the pelvic floor functionality throughout life. You'll receive access to educational resources, a workbook, an automated calendar, daily accountability, support, and a private call with a specialized pelvic floor physical therapist. And, you automatically get entered into a prize draw when you sign up! BONUS: lifetime access to this course. Join us!
LMNT Discount Code:
Fuel every system within the body and the brain with LMNT! Keep yourself hydrated on a cellular level by replenishing the sodium, potassium, and magnesium that our body needs for basic cellular processes like nerve signaling, smooth muscle contractions, unnecessary fatigue, aches and pain, brain fog, and recovery! Get a free gift with every purchase and try some new flavors as you stay hydrated! Get Your Free Gift!
What You Will Learn In This Interview with Antony Lo
04:13 - What is Diastasis Recti?
07:00 - Do all pregnant women experience Diastasis Recti?
08:34 - Who else is affected by Diastasis Recti?
11:20 - Do you need to exercise the core during pregnancy?
14:30 - Myths around Diastasis Recti.
20:00 - Reality between training for aesthetics
21:55 - Is all exercise safe for diastasis Recti?
27:57 - What does it mean to “close the gap”?
32:05 - What is the best way to approach core training?
39:15 - Five finger gap: aesthetic vs function
42:20 - Stressing the body to find adaption: “Find the difference by doing something different”
45:00 - Learn more with Antony Lo
To learn more about Antony Lo and view full show notes, please visit the full website here: here: https://www.docjenfit.com/podcast/episode317
Thank you so much for checking out this episode of The Optimal Body Podcast. If you haven’t done so already, please take a minute to subscribe and leave a quick rating and review of the show!
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