The Russell Brunson Show

Let me show you what life’s most important skill looks like. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson and welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast, I hope you guys are pumped today. Today, I'm going to talk to you guys about some crazy stuff I'm doing right now and I want you understand the secret behind what I think is probably the most important skillset you can possibly learn during this life and that is how to be coachable. All right, all right. So, I am... it's late night and I'm actually driving to go get my son from one of his friend's houses and I got, it's probably 10-minute drive so it's like, I would jump out and hang out with you guys while we're going. And I am at the end of day number one of a water fast. Yes, a water fast. I'm literally going to drink nothing but water for the next five days. I think some of you guys are rolling your eyes and you think I'm insane. I know this because I posted on Instagram today and I got thousands of messages coming back to me, from everybody telling me why I'm dumb, why I'm smart and about a million things in between. But that doesn't matter to me because I'm doing it for a purpose and a reason and I'll explain why here in a second. But before I do, I want to talk about what I think is one of the most, maybe not want of the, but probably the most important skillset you can learn in this life. And I don't know how I was blessed with it and I didn't even know I had it until I remember my ... it was actually my sophomore year in high school and I joined this freestyle wrestling team and the team was called Elite and I was probably the worst kid to join Elite. Somehow my dad got me in and it was all these guys who were amazing at wrestling. It was a private club for these guys and they all, "I'm sure you'll get better." I was in this group and I was having so much fun being around these guys who were amazing. I've seen them winning all these big tournaments and everything. And so, I remember going to one of our tournaments, wrestlers tournament and I don't remember exactly how, but I just remember a wrestlers match and I lost. And the coach pulled me off side and it was Greg Williams, he's now actually the Head Wrestling Coach at UVU, but he was my freestyle wrestling coach in this little club we were in. And I remember he pulled me off side he said, "Hey Russell, this is what you're doing wrong." And just like a normal coach, he walks you through to two, three or four things. I was like, "Okay." And so, I paid attention, I listened and in the next match, went through I wrestled and I did the things that he told me to do. Surprise, surprise, right? So, I did the things like I literally just ... he told me to do something so I did. And I remember the next match I won, I came off the mat, he looked at me kind of strange, I said, "What?" He said, "You're one of the most coachable athletes I've ever met." I'm like, "What do you mean?" He's like, "Most kids I tell them what to do over and over and over and over and over again before it ever sticks." He's like, "I told you what to do and you went in the next match and then you just did it." And he said, "You're one of the most coachable athletes I've ever met." And I remember hearing him say that I was like, "Oh my gosh, that's so cool." And so then, became part of my identity, I'm coachable. My coach tells me something, I'm not going to be skeptical, I'm not going to talk back, I'm going to shut my mouth, I'm going to listen, I'm going to just do what he says. He's my coach, he knows more than I do so I'm going to become as coachable as humanly possible. And over the next eight years of my wrestling career, I think that's why I succeeded at high levels because I was so coachable. Same thing is true for me when I started business. I would come in and I would hire a coach or I would read a book and whatever the book said, I would just follow it, I just did the thing. And long and behold, I became successful because of it. And it's been interesting as I've been on the other side of this now and I've had a chance to coach tons of people and help people. It's interesting how few or how uncoachable most people are. They want to come back and tell you their opinion and why they think they're right and why this and why that and it's just like, "Why would you do that? You hired me to be your coach." It's like, "You literally paid me to teach you this thing and now you're fighting me." It doesn't make any sense to me. I hire somebody as a coach or someone I paid, I just I do what they say. I remember actually, I'm in the middle of my fourth book right now, which has been a fun project to start on. I'm not telling too many details about it yet but there's this one quote in here and it was actually from my friend and he wrote the article about his morning routine and it was so funny. And he's just like talking about all the things he does and how crazy they are and one of the things that he mentioned, I can't remember what it was, it was something weird. And he's like, "Why do I do that?" He's like, "Because Tony Robbins told me so." He said, "I obey all giants with helicopters and stage presence." I thought it was so funny. I was like, "Yes, that's how I am. I obey all giants with helicopters and stage presence. I obey all people who I hire, all coaches, all people who I want to learn from, I obey them, I listen to them, I ask them their advice and then I just do the thing they said." It's the weirdest thing in the world. We recently here at ClickFunnels had a chance to meet with this dude, who's literally one of the smartest students I've ever met. And we were lucky enough he sat down for four hours, four or five hours with us and walked us through. Looking at our business like, "Hey, I would do this, I would do this," and he gives us all these things to do. And so me and Dave Woodward were just taking notes as fast as we can and all the things and just like, "Oh my gosh, this guy's amazing." I remember we got done with the day, it ended and he messaged us a couple of weeks later, two or three weeks later, he's like, "Hey, you want to jump on a call and go over the stuff again?" Like, "What do you mean?" He's like, "Well, do you want to go over the stuff we talked about and figure out ways to start implementing?" Like, "No, you understand you don't know how we work. We're implementing everything you said, we literally," and we started going through the we did this, we did this, we did this," and the guy was like, "Oh my gosh," he's like, "I've never had somebody who just did what I told him to do like that before. Yeah, we're very, very coachable. We listen and then we'd do what you say." And so, that's key. So, I want to show it to you because that goes back to my water fast that I'm dealing with right now. So day number one's almost done. And the reason why I'm doing a water fast, actually there's two things. My dad was a insurance agent for State Farm Insurance. I remember that he would, obviously they sell auto insurance and health insurance and all the different, house insurance and things like that. But the one that was the hardest to sell was life insurance. And we were asking him, "Why is it so hard to sell life insurance?" And he said, "Because it's a preventative not a cure." After you get sick, you want life insurance. After you get sick… but it's hard because ahead of time you’re like, "Oh, I'm never going to be sick, I'm going to be fine." It's just like aspirin, no one wants to pre-buy aspirin but if you got a headache, you will give your right arm for some aspirin, right? It's the prevention versus a cure. People don't want to do the prevention and you see it right now, it's insane in our society. People are getting sick and all the problems and everyone will go and they want a magic cure for this thing. But nobody will go back to the root cause and like, "Hey, we're actually super unhealthy, we should change our diet and exercise." The fact that nobody on the news or on TV has mentioned that over the last 12 months is insane. Anyway, I'll get off that soap box in a minute but most people will not go for a preventative, how do you say it, preventative. You know what I'm saying? They wait for a cure though. And I'm not that way. I want to like, "What's a preventative ahead of time?" And so, one of my friends, he joined my inner circle a few years ago his name's Chris Wark and if you've heard of Chris before, he has Chrisbeatscancer.com or Chrisbeatcancer.com. And he is someone who came down he had, I think stage three cancer and ended up curing himself from it naturally without any chemotherapy and all these other things. And then, he's gone on and help hundreds of other people on this journey as well. And he's just an amazing person. He spoke at Funnel Hacking Live one or two years ago and just have so much respect for him. But he came out with the book. And so, I don't have cancer but I was like, the book came out I was like, "I'm going to read this book," and so I bought the book and I listened to it and then he had a course, I bought the course, I went to the course. I'm like, "I'm going through all this stuff because I'm like, "Man, I don't want cancer." I can go wait until I got cancer and then I got to figure this stuff out or freak out or I can be like, "Hey, I don't want cancer. Let me preventatively figure out who's the dude or the lady who's already solved this problem, who's got the framework that fixes this problem and let me figure it out?" And what's crazy and again, I'm not an expert on this at all so don't take my opinion. But if you love someone who has cancer, you should go to chrisbeatcancer.com. If you have cancer, you should. If you don't want to have cancer, once again, you should still go there, you'd be insane not to. So anyway, I'm trying to think where I left off. Anyway, so I was like, "I don't want to have cancer," so I started going through all the stuff, started listening to him, learning from it. It's like, "This is amazing." Oh yeah, I was going to tell you, he says that only 5% of cancers are hereditary, 95% are based on things like your environment, your diet, your stress levels. It's crazy. So it's like, if we know these things, why aren't we talking about these things? Why is it not on TV every single day? When he talked about the first time he went in for, I think it was him or maybe someone else, the first time he went for a cancer thing, the doctor looks at everything and then, after he got out of the thing, gave him hospital food and it's just like junk food, garbage food. It's like, we know what causes these things, why don't we focus in that? But that's not sexy, there's no money in that. There's no money like, "Hey, you should eat healthier, you should exercise, you should change your diet, you should change your environment." And so, it doesn't get the attention it needs. But anyway, so for me, I'm someone who wants to look for a preventative, it's rare. I'd say 0.1% of people in the world search for preventatives. They're always just looking for cures. They wait until something bad happens, look for a cure. I'm trying to figure out how do I protect myself today so that I don't have to worry about that? Maybe I will still have to, who knows, but if I can protect myself, I can fortify myself against that problem, I'm going to do it. So, Chris became my coach, I'm like, "He's the dude, I'm going to go through it and I obey all giants with helicopters and stage presence." So for this situation, I obey Chris' work as he's cured himself of cancer, he's cured hundreds of other people like, "Okay, I obey all dudes who cured themselves of cancer when they tell me how to prevent myself from having cancer." So, I just listened to what he said, did it and I'm going through it. So, part of it is this five-day water fast. And it's interesting he talked about how your cells in your body, how there's cells that are weak, there's cells that are dead, there's cells are cancerous, all these sorts of stuff like that. He said, "In your immune system the same way," there's these weaker cells, I'm probably messing up, if Chris is listening to this he's probably rolling his eyes, but you should go buy all his stuff because he'll explain it way better than me. But basically, what happens is when you do a water fast, your body literally starts eating itself because it's like, "I need food or anything," it just starts eating yourself. We know that, that's how you lose weight. Your body starts eating the fat cells or whatever. But in this case, the cells that die, they go the first are the weakest ones. I think one of the analogy is someone shared with me, it might've been him he was like, "If you're out in a forest and there's all these pine needles and pine cones, all the stuff they do controlled burns like the light, those things on fires, it burns all that stuff, it doesn't catch the fields on fire but kills all the dead stuff underneath, that way you don't have problems in the future." It's the same thing here where you do these water fast and your body literally will eat all of these cancer cells and disease and all sorts of stuff. And so, I started learning about that, I got excited, JLD if you guys know John Lee Dumas from Entrepreneurs on Fire, he told me about another book that I read about water fasting and stuff like that. And so I'm like, "I'm all in, let's do this thing." And so, I started day number one of water fasting because I want to kill off these dead cells, I want to protect myself or I want to make myself stronger and heal myself. And so, I'm excited. And if someone who is insanely healthy and in great shape and not having any issues, but man, I don't want to have issues. And so, that's why I'm doing these things now. I think Chris said that he does his water fast once a quarter so I'm probably trying to figure out some way to incorporate that more often on top of a lot of the shifts in my diet that I've made because of listening to Chris and other geniuses. So anyway, I'm telling you this, because number one, I want to tell you that I practice what I preach. I am as coachable as they come, I try my best. I try to listen to what they say, my coaches say, even if I don't have the problem, if I want to protect myself from the future problem, I listen. And so for you, in all aspects of your life, be coachable. Be coachable in business, be coachable in sports, be coachable in health, find coaches, ask, you hire then pay them. Find someone who has already accomplished the thing that you want and then pay them, ask them for advice, get their framework and then go and just do it. And don't question it, don't try to be smarter. Just like, "All right, I may have heard this in the past, I don't care. But at this point in time, I'm giving you my money. Therefore, I will do anything you say. I'm not going to fight you, I'm not going to talk you back, I'm just going to do the thing you say." And then, don't do what most people do like, "Okay, cool," and listen and not do anything, just do it. When I say instantly execute on it, don't wait a day, a week, a month, a year. Now is the time. You gave him the money, now it's time to make the changes. So, hope that helps you guys. It is literally the most important skillset you can learn as being coachable. It's not hard, you just have to do what the person says that you're going to do. It's keeping commitments, it's making keeping commitments. And I think that as a society, we have problems that we can't make. If people will make commitments, then keep commitments and like, if you want to be successful, you got to make commitments and you got to keep them. And the same thing is you got to go out there and find the people, find the people that have what you want. Give them money, that's that's a commitment you're making to them and then follow the process to a T. So, hope it helps. I'm at my son's friend's house, I'm going to pick him up right now and hope you guys have a great night. Thanks again for listening. If you enjoyed this episode, any episode, please take a screenshot on your phone, tag me and post it on social and tag me and then, if you love your life and you want to extend your life, I would highly recommend going to Amazon, worst case scenario buy Chris Wark's books on cancer. They are amazing and best case go buy his courses, dive in because he's an amazing person who's figured it out. And man, if there's only 5% of cancers are hereditary, 95%, we can be protected from by just shifting some basic things. And water fast is one of a million things, he's got a ton of things, they're not hard, they're pretty cool and they're awesome. Anyway, it's worth it to you, to your family, the ones you love so check out Chris Wark as well. And with that said, I appreciate you all and I will talk to you all again soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Here is the conclusion of the special conversation I had on stage at a Traffic Secrets event with a friend and a student, Nic Fitzgerald. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey everybody, welcome to Marketing Secrets podcast. I’m so excited, I’m here on stage right now at the Two Comma Club X event with Mr. Nic Fitzgerald onstage. A year ago I gave a podcast to him about how to make it rain and this is section number two. Now those of you who don’t know, in the last 12 months since I did that podcast he’s been making it rain and he’s been changing his life, his family’s lives, but more importantly, other people’s lives as well. And it’s been really cool, so that’s what we’re going to cover today during this episode of the podcast. So welcome back you guys. I’m here on stage with Nic Fitzgerald, so excited. So I made a list of seven things that if I was to sit in a room with him in front of a whole bunch of people I’d be like, “Hey Nic, you’re doing awesome, but here’s some things to look at that I think will help you a lot with what you’re doing.” So number one, when Nic first kind of started into this movement that he’s trying to create, I don’t know when it was, if you created this before or after. When did you create the Star Wars video? Nic: This was, we talked in July, it was September/October. So a few months later. Russell: How many of you guys have seen his Star Wars video? Okay, I’m so glad. For those who are listening, about 10% of the room raised their hand, the other 90% who are friends and followers and fans of Nic have never seen the Star Wars video. His Star Wars video is his origin story and it is one of the best videos I have ever, by far the best video I’ve seen him do, it is insanely good. It comes, do you want to talk about what happened in the video? It’s insanely good. Nic: So I told the story of, I’m a huge Star Wars nerd, so if you didn’t know that, now you do. When I was young my grandma who lived in the same neighborhood as me, she took me to go see Return of the Jedi in the movie theater and I was such a Star Wars nerd, even at a young age, that when I was playing at the neighbors house, and you know, it’s the 80s, so mom and dad are like, “Nic, come home for dinner.” That kind of thing, I would ignore them. I would not come home until they called me “Luke”. No lie. I would make them call me Luke, or I would ignore them. I would not hear them. Russell: Had I known this in high school I would have teased him relentlessly. Nic: So my grandma took me and I remember going and it was so fun because we took the bus, it was just a fun thing. And we went and I just remember walking in and handing my ticket to the ticket person. And then popcorn and just the smells of everything. And again, this is the 80s so walking in the movie theater; I almost lost a shoe in the sticky soda, {sound effects} going on. I just remember how my feet stuck to the floor and all that stuff. And then just being so excited to see my heroes on the big screen and Dark Vader, I just remember watching it. This is such a silly thing to get emotional about, but you know I remember the emperor and Darth Vader dying and all that stuff. It was just like, ah. It was a perfect day. Sorry sound dude. But it was just a perfect day with my grandma who has always been dear to me. So the purpose of that video, I’d put it off for a long time. I knew I needed to tell my own story if I’m going to be helping somebody else tell theirs. And I put it off for a long time, because working through things, I was afraid that if it sucked, if the story was terrible, if the visuals were crappy, that was a reflection on me and my skills. I had worked on a bazillion Hallmark Christmas movies, you know how they put out like 17 trillion Christmas movies every year, if one of those sucks, no offense, they’re not riveting television. Russell: They all suck. Nic: That wasn’t a reflection on me, I was just doing the lighting or the camera work. I didn’t write the story, it wasn’t my story. But this was me, so I put it off for a long time because I knew if I didn’t execute how I envisioned it, that it would reflect poorly on me, and it would be like I was a fraud. So the purpose of the video, there were three purposes. One to tell a story and get people to connect with me on a personal level. As I told that story here, how many of you remembered your feet sticking to the floor of a movie theater? How many of you, when I talk about the smell of popcorn and that sound, you felt and heard and smelled that. So it was one thing, I wanted people to connect with me and just see that I was just like you. Then I wanted to show that I could make a pretty picture. So I had that and I used my family members as the actors. And then I went and talked about how…and then I wanted to use it to build credibility. I’ve worked on 13 feature films and two television series and shot news for the NBC affiliate and worked in tons of commercials. So I’ve learned from master story tellers and now I want to help other people find and tell their story. And then I showed clips of stories that I tell throughout the years. So that was, I just remember specifically when I finally went and made it live, I made a list of about 20 people, my Dream 100 I guess you could say. I just wanted to send them and be like, “Hey, I made this video. I would love for you to watch it.” And Russell’s on that list. So I sent that out and made it live and then it was just kind of funny, it didn’t go viral, I got like 5000 views in a day, and it was like “whoa!” kind of thing. But it was just one of those things that I knew I needed to tell my story and if I wanted to have any credibility as a story teller, not as a videographer, but as a story teller, being able to help people connect, and connect hearts and build relationships with their audience, I had to knock it out of the park. So that was my attempt at doing that. Russell: And the video’s amazing, for the 10% of the room who saw it, it is amazing. Now my point here for Nic, but also for everyone here, I wrote down, is tell your story too much. Only 10% of the room has ever seen that video or ever heard it. How many of you guys have heard my potato gun story more than a dozen times? Almost the entire room, for those that are listening. Tell your story to the point where you are so sick and tired of telling the story and hearing it, that you just want to kill yourself, and then tell it again. And then tell it again. And then tell it again, because it is amazing. The video is amazing, the story is amazing. How many of you guys feel more connected to him after hearing that story right now? It’s amazing. Tell t he story too much. All of us are going to be like, “I don’t want to hear the story. I don’t want to tell the story again.” You should be telling that story over and over and over again. That video should be showing it. At least once a week you should be following everyone, retargeting ads of that video. That video should be, everyone should see it. You’ve got 5,000 views which is amazing, you should get 5,000 views a day, consistently telling that story, telling that story. Because you’re right, it’s beautiful, it’s amazing and people see that and they’re like, “Oh my gosh, I need that for my business. I need to be able to tell my story the way he told that story, because the connection is flawless.” And I think my biggest thing for you right now, is tell your story more. Tell that thing. You’re telling good stories, but that story, that’s like your linchpin, that’s the thing that if you can tell that, it’s going to keep people connected to you for forever. Anyone who’s seen that video, you have a different level of connection. It’s amazing, it’s shot beautifully. You see his kids looking at the movies, with lights flashing, it’s beautiful. So telling your story more, that’d be the biggest thing. It’s just like, all the time telling that story over and over and over again. That’s number one. Alright, number two, this one’s not so much for you as much for most of everybody else in here, but number two is that energy matters a lot. I’m not talking about, I’m tired during the day. I’m talking about when you are live, or you are talking in front of people, your energy matters a lot. I was hanging out with Dana Derricks, how many of you guys know Dana, our resident goat farmer? By the way, he’s asked every time I mention his name is please not send him anymore goats. He’s gotten like 2 or 3 goats in the last month from all of our friends and family members here in the community. Please stop sending him goats. He loves them but he doesn’t want any more. Anyway, what’s interesting, I was talking to Dana, and he’s like, “Do you know the biggest thing I’ve learned from you?” and I’m like, “No. what?” and I thought it was going to be like dream 100 and things like that. No, the biggest thing that Dana learned from me, he told me, was that energy matters a lot. He’s like, “When I hang out with you, you’re kind of like blah, but when you get on stage you’re like, baaahh!” and I started telling him, the reason why is when I first started this career, in fact, I have my brother right now pulling all the video clips of me from like 12 or 13 years ago, when I had a shaved head and I was awkward like, “Hi, my name is Russell Brunson.” And we’re trying to make this montage of me over 15 years of doing this and how awkward and weird I was, and how it took 8-10 years until I was normal and started growing my hair out. But I’m trying to show that whole montage, but if you look at it like, I was going through that process and the biggest thing I learned is that if I talked to people like this, when you’re on video you sound like this. The very first, I think I’d have an idea and then I’d just do stupid things. So I saw an infomercial, so I’m like I should do an infomercial. So I hired this company to make an infomercial and next thing I know two weeks later I’m in Florida and there’s this host on this show and he’s like the cheesiest cheese ball ever. I’m so embarrassed. He asked me a question and I’m like, “Well, um, you know, duh, duh…” and he’s like, “Whoa, cut, cut, cut.” He’s like, “Dude, holy crap. You have no energy.” I’m like, “No, I feel really good. I have a lot of energy right now.” He’s like, “No, no you don’t understand. When you’re on tv, you have to talk like this to sound normal. If you just talk normal, you sound like you’re asleep.” I’m like, “I don’t know.” So we did this whole infomercial and he’s like all over the top and I’m just like, trying to go a little bit higher and it was awkward. I went back and watched it later, and he sounded completely normal and I looked like I was dead on the road. It was weird. Brandon Fischer, I don’t know if he’s still in the audience, but we did…Brandon’s back here. So four years ago when Clickfunnels first came out we made these videos that when you first signed up we gave away a free t-shirt. How many of you guys remember seeing those videos? I made those videos and then they lasted for like four years, and then we just reshot them last week because it’s like, “Oh wow, the demo video when we’re showing CLickfunnels does not look like Clickfunnels anymore. It’s completely changed in four years.” So Todd’s like, “You have to make a new video.” I’m like, “I don’t want to make a video.’ So finally we made the new videos, recorded them and got them up there and we posted them online, and before we posted them on, I went and watched the old ones, and I watched the old ones and I was like, “Oh my gosh, this is just four years ago, I am so depressing. How did anybody watch this video?” It was bad, right Brandon. It was like painfully bad. I was like, “oh my gosh.” That was just four years ago. Imagine six years ago, or ten years. It was really, really bad. And when I notice the more energy you have, the more energy everyone else has. It seems weird at first, but always stretch more than you feel comfortable, and it seems normal, and then you’ll feel better with it and better with it. But what’s interesting about humans is we are attracted to energy. I used to hate people talking energy talk, because I thought it was like the nerdy woo-woo crap. But it’s so weird and real actually. I notice this in all aspects of my life. When I come home at night, usually I am beat up and tired and worn out. I get up early in the morning, and then I work super hard, I get home and I get out of the car and I come to the door and before I open the door, I’m always like, Okay if I come in like, ugh, my whole family is going to be depressed with me.” They’ll all lower to my energy level. So I sit there and I get into state and I’m like, okay, whew. I open the door and I’m like, “What’s up guys!! I’m home!” and all the sudden my kids are like, “Oh dad’s home!” and they start running in, it’s this huge thing, it’s crazy, and then the tone is set, everyone’s energy is high and the rest of the night’s amazing. When I come in the office, I walk in and realize I’m the leader of this office and if I come in like, “Hey guys, what’s up? Hey Nic, what’s up?” Then everyone’s going to be like {sound effect}. So I’m like, okay when I come in I have to come in here, otherwise everyone is going to be down on a normal level. I have to bring people up. So we walk in the office now and I’m like, “What’s up everybody, how’s it going?” and I’m excited and they’re like, “Oh.” And everyone’s energy rises and the whole company grows together. So l love when Dave walks through the door, have you guys ever noticed this? When Dave walks through the door, I’m at a 10, Dave’s like at a 32 and it’s just like, he wakes up and comes over to my  house at 4:30 in the morning to lift weights. I sleep in an hour later, and I come in at 5:45 or something, and I walk in and I’m just like, “I want to die.” And I walk in and he’s like, “Hey how’s it going?.” I’m like, “Really good man. You’ve been here for an hour.” And all the sudden I’m like, oh my gosh I feel better. Instantly raised up. It’s kind of like tuning forks. Have you noticed this? If you get two tuning forks at different things and you wack one, and you wack the other one, and you bring them close together, what will happen is the waves will increase and they end up going at the exact same level. So energy matters. The higher your energy, the higher everyone else around you will be, on video, on audio, on face…everything, energy matters a lot. So that’s number two, when you’re making videos, thinking about that. Alright number three, okay this, you were like 90% there and I watched the whole thing and I was so excited and then you missed the last piece and I was like, “Oh it was so good.” So a year after that Facebook message came, you did a Facebook live one year later to the day, and he told that story on Facebook live. And I was like, “Oh my gosh this is amazing.” And he told that story, and he was talking about it, and I was emotional, going through the whole thing again. This is so cool, this is so cool. And he told the story about the podcast, and this podcast was an hour long, and the thing and his life changed and all this stuff… And I know that me and a whole bunch of you guys, a whole bunch of entrepreneurs listened to this story and they’re at bated breath, “This is amazing, this is amazing.” And he gets to the very end, “Alright guys, see you tomorrow.” Boom, clicks off. And I was like, “Aaahhh!” How can you leave me in that state?  I need something, I need something. So the note here is I said, make offers for everything. Think about this, at the end when you ended, and everyone’s thinking, I want to hear that episode, where is that? How would it be? Now imagine you take the opportunity at the very end that says, “How many of you guys would like to hear that episode where Russell actually made me a personal podcast? And how many of you guys would actually like if I gave you my commentary about what  I learned and why it was actually important to me? All you gotta do right now is post down below and write ‘I’m in.’ and I’ll add you to my messenger list and I’ll send you that podcast along with the recording where I actually told you what this meant to me.” Boom, now all those people listening are now on his list. Or they can even go opt in somewhere. But all you did was tell the story and everything and we were all sitting with bated breath and I was just like, at the end make the offer. You guys want the stuff I talked about, you want the thing? You want the thing? And then you send them somewhere and now you captured them and consider them longer term and you can do more things with them. It was like, hook, story, dude where’s my offer? Give me something. But it was awesome. How many of you guys felt that way when you listened to that thing and you’re just like, “I don’t even know where to find that episode. Russell’s got eight thousand episodes everywhere, I don’t even know where to look for it.” You could have been like, here’s the link. Just the link….if you guys can’t figure out how to make an offer, go listen to a whole bunch of stuff, find something amazing and be like, “oh my gosh you guys, I was listening to this Tim Ferris podcast, he did like 800 episodes, every one is like 18 hours long, they’re really hard to listen to, but I found this one from 3 ½-4 years ago where he taught this concept and it was insane. It was amazing; I learned this and this. How many of you want to know what that is? Okay, I have the link, if you message me down below I’ll send you the link to exactly where to find that episode.” Everyone will give it to you.  You’ll be like, “But it’s free on the internet Russell.” It doesn’t matter. You know where it’s at and they don’t. They will give you their contact information in exchange for you giving them a direct link to the link. Back before I had anything to give away for opt ins, guess what I used to do. I used to go to YouTube and I would find cool videos from famous people. One of my favorite ones we did was I went and typed in YouTube, “Robert Kiyosaki” because he was one of my big mentors at the time. And there was all these amazing Robert Kiyosaki videos on YouTube for free. Tons of them. Hour long training from Robert Kiyosaki. Four hour long event from Robert Kiyosaki. All this stuff for free listed in YouTube. So I made a little Clickfunnels membership site, I got all the free videos and put them inside a members area and just like, “Tab one, Robert Kiyosaki talking about investing, Robert Kiyosaki talking about stocks, Robert Kiyosaki talking….”  And I just put all the videos in there and made a squeeze page like, “Hey, who wants a whole bunch of free, my favorite Robert Kiyosaki videos?” and I made a little landing page, people opt in, I give them access to the membership site, and then I went and targeted Robert Kiyosaki’s audience and built a huge list off his people. Dream 100. Imagine with Dream 100 instead of doing just one campaign to all the people, if each person in your dream 100 you made a customized membership site with the free content right now, be like, “Hey, you’ve listened to a lot of Grant Cardone, he’s got four podcasts, 5000 episodes, there’s only four that are actually really, really good. Do you guys want to know what they are? Opt in here, I’ll give you the four best episodes of all. I currated all these for you to give you the four best.” And target Grant’s audience with that, now you got all his buyers coming into your world. Is that alright, is that good. Alright number four ties along with this. Number four, start building a list ASAP. I don’t think I’ve ever seen you do a call to action to get a list anywhere, have I? After today’s session you’re …..just build a list. If you got nothing from this event at all, every time you do a hook and story, put them somewhere to build a list, because that’s the longevity. Because that’s where if Zuckerberg snaps his finger and you lose all your fans and followings and friends, and all the sudden you’re trying to build over somewhere else, it won’t matter because you’ll have those people somewhere external and now you can message them and bring them back into whatever world you need them to be at. But that’s how you build stability in business. It’s also how you sell this time, you want to sell it the next time and the next time, the list is the key. Funnel Hacking Live, the first Funnel Hacking Live it was a lot of work and we sold out 600 people in the room, and we kept growing the list and growing the list, the next year we did 1200. Then we did 1500, last year was 3000, this year we’re going to be at 5000. We’re building up the list and building up pressure and excitement and then when you release it, it gives you the ability to blow things up really, really fast.  Okay, that was number four. Okay number five, I wrote down integration marketing, adding to other’s offers to build a buyer list. So this is a little sneaky tactic we used to back in the day when I didn’t have my own list, but I had a couple of skills and talents which you do happen to have, which is nice. If you have no skills this won’t work, but if you have skills you’re lucky. So Frank Kern used to do this as well. Frank is sneaky. He used to do this all the time and I saw him doing it and I’m like, “Oh my gosh, he’s brilliant.” So Frank did a one hour presentation somewhere and he called it Mind Control, it wasn’t Mass Control, but it was something like about how to control the minds of your prospects through manipulation and something sneaky. And the title alone was amazing. It was a one hour presentation he gave somewhere. And he put it on these DVDs and what he did, he went to like Dan Kennedy and he’s like, “Hey Dan, you have all of your buyer and you send them this newsletter every single month,” at the time they had 13000 active members, these were their best buyers. He’s like, “This DVD I sell for like a thousand bucks. Do you want to give it to all your people for free?” And Dan’s like, “sure.” And all the sudden the next month, Franks got his best CD with his best stuff in the mailbox of the 13000 best customers, every single person that Dan Kennedy’s been collecting for the last 15 years. So think about this. With your skill set, look at the other people in the market, all the dream 100 who are doing things and how do you create something you can plug into their offers, and every single time one of those people sell a product, your face is popping up as well. It’s called integration marketing, my first mentor Mark Joyner wrote a book called Integration Marketing, it’s a really fast read. You can read it in an hour, but it will get your mind set thinking about it. How can I integrate with what other people are always doing? Because I can go and make a sell, and make another sell, but I was like, when we launched Clickfunnels I was like, “How can I figure out other people’s sales processes that are already happening and somehow inject myself into all these other sales processes?” That way every single time Steven Larsen sells something or someone else sells something, or all these people are selling something, it always somehow gets flown back to me. I want every product, every course, everything happening in the internet marketing world to somehow have people saying my name. That’s my goal. How many of you guy have been to other people’s events and I’m not there and they say my name? It makes me so happy. I get the instagrams from some of you guys, “Hey so and so just said your name.” I’m like, that’s so good. How have I done that? I spent a lot of my life integrating into everybody’s offers. Initially when I first got started, every single person who had a product, I was an interview in everyone’s product. I was like, looking at people launching a product, specific product launches coming, I’d contact them. Product launch is coming up, “Hey man, is there any way I could do a cool thing for your people? I could create this and give it to you and you could plug it into your product?” and everyone’s like, ‘Sure, that’d be awesome.” And all the sudden, boom, they get 5000 new buyers came in and every single one of them got my thing. They’re hearing my name, hearing my voice and it’s just constant integration. I think about how I met Joe Vitale, I talked about that earlier with the greatest showman. He was in an interview in a course I bought from Mark Joyner, I listened to it, fell in love with Joe Vitale, bought his stuff, given him tons of money over the years, a whole bunch of good stuff because he was integrated in that. So looking at other ways to integrate, the skill set that you already have into other people’s marketing channels because then you’re leveraging anytime any of these partners make a sell, you’re getting customers coming through that flow as well. Cool? Nic: Yeah. Russell: That was number five. Number six, I call this one rainmaker projects, because we talked about rainmaker during the first podcast interview. So rainmaker projects are, and again when I first started my career I did tons of these, where it’s like, I was really good at one piece. For you, you’re really good at video and story telling. And I look out here and be like, okay who is someone else here that is awesome? So and so is really good at making a product on Facebook ads. “You’re really good at Facebook ads, so I’ll do the video for this course, you do the Facebook, you do the actual ads for us.” And then, you’re awesome at doing the traffic and you bring in four or five people, like this little avenger team, and you create a cobranded product together and you launch it and everyone makes a bunch of money, split all the money, 50/50/50/50, that makes more than 100,but you know what I’m talking about, everyone splits the money, everyone splits the customer list and all the sudden you’ve all pulled your efforts, your energy, your talents together and everyone leaves with some cash, and you also leave with the customer list, and that’s when you start growing really, really rapidly. When I started I didn’t have a customer list, I had a very small one. But I had a couple of skill sets so that’s why I did tons of these things. That’s like, if you guys know any of my old friends like Mike Filsaime, Gary Ambrose, I could list off all the old partners we had back in the day, and that’s what we did all the time, these little rainmaker projects. We didn’t call them that back in the day, but that’s what it was. It was just like, we all knew what our skill sets were, and it’s like, let’s come together, let’s make a project. This isn’t going to be how we change the world, it’s not going to be something we’re going to scale and grow, but it’s like, it’s going to be a project, we put it together, we launch it, make some money, get some customers, get our name out in the market, and then we step away from it and then we all go back to our own businesses. It’s not like, that’s why it’s funny because a lot of times people are scared of these. Like, “Well, how do we set up the business structure? Who’s going to be the owner? Who’s the boss?” No, none of that. This is an in and out project where all the rainmakers come together and you create something amazing for a short period of time, you split the money and you go back home with the money and the customers. But it gave you a bump in status, a big bump in customer lists, a big bump in cash and then all those things kind of rise and if you do enough of those your status keeps growing and growing and growing, and it’s a really fast easy way to continue to grow. How many of you guys want to do a rainmaker project with Nic right now? Alright, very, very cool. Alright, and then I got one last, this is number seven. This kind of ties back to dream 100. The last thing I talked about was, and again this is kind of for everyone in the group, is the levels of the dream 100. I remember when I first started this process, I first got the concept and I didn’t know it was the dream 100 back then, but I was looking at all the different people that would have been on my dream 100 list. It was Mark Joyner, Joe Vitale, all these people that for me were top tier. Tony Robbins, Richard Branson, and I was like, oh, and I started trying to figure out how to get in those spots. And the more I tried, it was so hard to get through the gatekeeper, it was impossible to get through all these gatekeepers, these people. I was like, “Man don’t people care about me. I’m just a young guy trying to figure this stuff out and they won’t even respond to my calls or my emails. I can’t even get through, I thought these people really cared.” Now to be on the flip side of that, I didn’t realize what life is actually like for that, for people like that. For me, I understand that now at a whole other level. We’ve got a million and a half people on our subscriber list. We have 68000 customers, we’ve got coaching programs, got family, got friends. We have to put up barriers to protect yourself or it’s impossible. I felt, I can’t even tell you how bad I feel having Brent this morning, “Can you tell everyone to not do pictures with me.” It’s not that I don’t want to, but do you want me to tell you what actually happens typically? This is why we have to put barriers around ourselves. Here’s my phone, I’ll be in a room, like Funnel Hacking Live and there will be 3000 people in the room, and I’m walking through and someone’s like, “Real quick, real quick, can I get a picture?” I’m like, “I gotta go.” And they’re like, “It’ll take one second.” And I’m like, ahh, “Okay, fine, quick.” And they’re like, “Hold on.” And they get their phone out and they’re like, “Uh, uh, okay, uh, alright got it. Crap it’s flipped around. Okay, actually can you hold this, my arms not long enough can you hold it? Actually, hey you come here real quick, can you hold this so we can get a picture? Okay ready, one two three cheese.” And they grab the camera and they’re off. And for them it took one second. And that person leaves, and guess what’s behind them? A line of like 500 people. And then for the next like 8 hours, the first Funnel Hacking Live, was anyone here at the first Funnel Hacking Live? I spent 3 ½ hours up front doing pictures with everybody and I almost died afterwards. I’m like, I can’t…but I didn’t know how to say no, it was super, super hard. So I realize now, to protect your sanity, people up there have all sorts of gatekeepers and it’s hard. So the way you get through is not being more annoying, and trying to get through people. The way you get to them is by understanding the levels of that. So I tried a whole bunch of times, and I couldn’t get in so I was like, “Crap, screw those guys. They don’t like me anyway, they must be jerks, I’m sure they’re just avoiding me and I’m on a blacklist….” All the thoughts that go through your head. And at that time, I started looking around me. I started looking around and I was like, “hey, there’s some really cool people here.” And that’s when I met, I remember Mike Filsaime, Mike Filsaime at the time had just created a product he launched and he had like a list of, I don’t know, maybe 3 or 4 thousand people. And I remember I created my first product, Zipbrander, and I was all scared and I’m like ,”Hey Mike, I created this thing Zipbrander.” And he messaged back, “Dude that’s the coolest thing in the world.” A couple of things, Mike didn’t have a gatekeeper, it was just him. He got my email, he saw it, and he was like, “This is actually cool.” I’m like, “Cool, do you want to promote it?” and he’s like, “Yes, I would love to promote it.” I’m like, oh my gosh. I had never made a sale online at this point, by the way, other than a couple of little things that fell apart. I never actually made a sale of my own product. Zipbrander was my very first, my own product that I ever created. So Mike was that cool, he sent an email to his list, his 5000 person list, they came over, I had this little pop up that came to the site and bounced around, back in the day. I had 270 people opt in to my list from Mike’s email to it, and I think we made like 8 or 10 sales, which wasn’t a lot, but 67 that’s $670, they gave me half, I made $350 on an email and gained 300 people on my list. I’m like, oh my gosh this is amazing. And I asked Mike, “Who are the other people you hang out with? I don’t know very many people.” And he’s like, “Oh dude, you gotta meet this guy, he’s awesome.” And he brought me to someone else, and I’m like, “Oh this is cool. “ and Mike’s like, “Dude, I promoted Zipbrander, it was awesome, you should promote it.” And then he’s like, “Oh cool.” And he promoted Zipbrander. I’m like, oh my gosh, I got another 30-40 people on my list and there were a couple more sales. And then I asked him, “Who do you know?” and there was someone else, and we stared doing this thing and all the sudden there were 8 or 10 of us who were all at this level and we all started masterminding, networking, figuring things out, cross promote each other and what happened, what’s interesting is that all of our little brands that were small at the time started growing, and they started growing, and they started growing. All the sudden we were at the next tier. And when we got to the next tier all the sudden all these new people started being aware of us and started answering our calls and doing things, and Mike’s like, ‘Oh my gosh, I met this guy who used to be untouchable.” And he brought him in and brought them in and all the sudden we’re at the next level. And we started growing again and growing again. And the next thing we know, four years later I get a phone call from Tony Robbins assistant, they’re like, “Hey I’m sitting in a room and I got Mike Filsaime, Frank Kern, Jeff Walker, all these guys are sitting in a room with Tony Robbins and he thinks that you guys are the biggest internet nerds in the world, he’s obsessed with it and he wants to know if he can meet you in Salt Lake in like an hour.” What? Tony Robbins? I’ve emailed him 8000 times, he’s never responded even once, I thought he hated me. Not that he hated me, it’s that he had so many gatekeepers, he had no idea who I was. But eventually you start getting value and you collectively as a level of the dream 100 becomes more and more powerful. Eventually people notice you because you become the bigger people. And each tier gets bigger and bigger and bigger. So my biggest advice for you and for everybody is understanding that. Yes, it’s good to have these huge dreams and big people, but start looking around. There are so many partnerships to be had just inside this room. How many deals have you done with people in this room so far? Nic: Quite a few. Russell: More than one, right. Nic: Yeah, more than one. Russell: Start looking around you guys. Don’t always look up, up, up and try to get this thing. Look around and realize collectively, man, start doing the crossings because that’s how everyone starts growing together and there will be a time where I’ll be coming to you guys begging, “Can you please look at my stuff you guys, I have this thing called Clickfunnels. You may have heard of it. Can you please help me promote it?” And that’s what’s going to happen, okay. So the level of the dream 100 is the last thing, just don’t discount that. Because so many people are like swinging for the fence and just hoping for this homerun like I was, and it’s funny because I remember eventually people would respond to me, that I was trying for before, and they’d contact me. And I was like, oh my gosh. I realized, I thought this person hated me, I thought I was on a black list. I was assuming they were getting these emails and like, “oh, I hate this. Russell’s a scammer.” In my head right. They never saw any of them. Until they saw me, and they reached out to me and the whole dynamic shifted. So realizing that, kind of looking around and start building your dream 100 list, even within this room, within the communities that you’re in, because there’s power in that. And as you grow collectively, as a group, everyone will grow together, and that’s the magic. So that was number seven. So to recap the seven really quick. Number one, tell your story way too much, to the point where you’re so annoyed and so sick and tired of hearing it that everybody comes to you, and then keep telling it even some more. Number two, in everything you’re doing, energy matters a lot. To the point, even above what you think you’re comfortable with and do that all the time. Number three, make offers for everything. Hook, story, don’t leave them hanging, give them an offer because they’ll go and they will feel more completed afterwards. Number four, start building a list, it ties back to the first thing. Make an offer, get them to build your list, start growing your list because your list is your actual business. Number five, integration marketing. Look for other people’s marketing channels and how you can weave what you do into those channels, so you can get free traffic from all the people who are doing stuff. Number five, create rainmaker projects, find really cool things and bring four or five people together and make something amazing. Share the cash, share the customer list, elevate your status, elevate your brand, and it’s really fun to do because you get to know a whole bunch of people. And Number seven, understanding the levels of the dream 100. Find the people at your level and start growing with them together collectively as you do that, and in a year, two years, three years, five years Tony Robbins will be calling you, asking you to make his video and it will be amazing. Does that sound good? Awesome. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Replay of a special conversation I had on stage at a Traffic Secrets event with a friend and a student, Nic Fitzgerald. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey everyone, this is Russell Brunson and I want to welcome you to the Marketing Secrets podcast. The next two episodes are a really special one. For our Two Comma club X members and our inner circle members I did an event recently, some of you guys heard me talk about it. It was a traffic secrets event, where I’m getting all the material ready for the book. And the night before when I was doing all the prep work I had this thought. I was like, I want to bring up somebody on stage and it’s somebody who was a friend I grew up with in elementary school, and junior high, and high school, someone who was down on their luck, who was really, really struggling. About a year ago I saw him post something on Facebook and I reached out, and this interview is happening about a year later. He tells his story about what happened and the transformation and the change that’s happened by being involved inside our Clickfunnels, Funnel Hacker community. So I wanted to share that with you as part of the event, so this first half is going to be Nic kind of telling his story and it’s going to be the story from the bottom of the barrel where they were, they literally made $25,000 a year for 3 years in a row and then the transformation to this year, they’ll do well over six figures. And that’s going to be this first podcast. And the second podcast episode is, I did a live coaching session with him on stage, and I want to share that with you as well because I think there’s a lot of things for you specifically that you can get from this episode too. So the next few episodes are going to be sharing this really fun conversation that happened late night at the Traffic Secrets event with my friend Nic Fitzgerald, and if you think that name sounds familiar, I have talked about him before on this podcast. In fact, a little over a year ago I did a podcast episode called “Being a Rainmaker” that was a personalized podcast that I sent to Nic specifically to help him with what he was struggling with at the time. So anyway, I wanted to share this with you because it will take you full circle to show you kind of the progress and the momentum and things that are happening in his life, and I think it will be encouraging for you to hear the story because no matter where you are in your journey right now, if you are struggling, doing well, or if you’re somewhere in between, there are parts of this story that will resonate with you. And in the second episode where I coach Nic I think will help everybody as well. So with that said, let’s jump right in and have some fun. I want to introduce you to my friend Nic Fitzgerald. Alright so I want to set the tone for the next hour or so of what the game plan is. So I have a first initial question that I’m curious about with everyone here. I’m curious, who since they joined the Two Comma Club X program has had some kind of experience with Mr. Nic Fitzgerald? That’s powerful, I’m going to talk about why in a little bit, but very, very cool. So some of the back story behind this, and then we’re going to introduce him up, and when he comes up I want you guys to go crazy and scream and cheer and clap, because it will be good, and then I want him to sit down so we’ll be the same height, which will be good, it’ll be fun. So some of the back story, I actually met Nic the very first time in elementary school, and even in elementary school he was a foot and a half taller than me, which is amazing. He was like 6 ft 2 in like third grade, it was amazing. But we knew each other when we were dorky little kids and going up through elementary school we were both doing our things, and we didn’t have a care in the world and everything’s happening. And as we got older he kept getting taller, I stopped growing. And then we got into high school and he kept growing and he joined the basketball team. I didn’t keep growing so I went downstairs in the basement, literally, at our high school in the basement they call it the rubber room, and it’s this room that smells like, I don’t even know, but it’s under the gym. So he would go upstairs and fans would show up and people would cheer for them, and scream at their games. And all the girls would come to the games. And we’d go down in the rubber room by ourselves and cut weight and put on our sweats and lose weight and we’d jump rope and sweat like crazy. And we’d sit there, and I remember one day after working out for two hours pouring in sweat, I had my plastic gear on and my sweats on top of that, my hoodie and my hoods and we got the wrestling mats, and literally rolled ourselves up in the wrestling mats to keep the heat in, and we laid there and we were so hot. And I could hear the basketball players in the gym up above having so much fun and people cheering for them. And all the girls were there. And I was like, “Why are we not playing basketball?” It doesn’t make any sense. But during that time, obviously we were in two different kind of worlds, and we didn’t really connect that much, and then we left our separate ways. And I didn’t hear from him for years and years and years. And then do you guys remember Facebook when it first came out? The first time you got it and you log in and you’re like, “Oh my gosh, I can connect with people.” And you start searching the friends you know and then you find their friends and you spend a day and a half connecting with every person you’ve ever remembered seeing in your entire life? Do you guys remember that? So I did that one night, I connected with everybody. Everyone in high school, everyone in junior high, or elementary, everyone in every stage of my life, as many as I could think of. And then I was like, I think that’s everybody. Okay, I’ve connected with everybody. And one of those people that night was Nic. And then, but I didn’t say hi, I just friend requested and he requested back and I’m like, cool we’re connected. And then after that I got kind of bored with Facebook for like a year or so. Then a little while later I found out you can buy ads on it and I was like, what, this is amazing. So we started buying ads and everything is happening. And it’s crazy. And then what happened next, I actually want Nic onstage to tell you this story because I want you to hear it from both his perspective and my perspective, I think it’d be kind of interesting. So let’s do this real quick. As you guys know Nic has been a super valuable part of this community since he came in. I’m going to tell the story about how he got here and some of the craziness of how he signed up when he probably shouldn’t have and what’s been happening since then, because I know that you guys have all been part of that journey and been supporting him. How many of you guys are going to his event that’s happening later this week? He just keeps giving and serving, he’s doing all the right things, he’s telling his story, he’s doing some amazing stuff. So my plan now is I want to talk about the rest of the story. I want to tell you guys what I told him a year ago and then I want to tell you guys my advice for him moving forward, because I feel like it’s almost in proxy. I wish I could do that with every one of you guys. Just sit down here and coach you. But I feel like he’s at a stage where some of you guys aren’t to where he’s at yet and some of you are past that, and some of you guys are right where he’s at, and I feel like the advice that I really want to give him, will help you guys at all different levels. So that’s kind of the game plan. So with that said, let’s stand up and point our hands together for Mr. Nic Fitzgerald. Look how tall I am. I feel like….okay, so I had him find this post because I wanted to actually share a little piece of it. So this, I’m going to share a piece of it, I want to step back to where you were at that time in your life. So this was July 7, 2017, so what was that a year and a half ago, ish? So July 7, 2017 there was a post that said, “Long post disclaimer. I hate posting this, blah, blah, blah.” So at the time my family was about to go on a family vacation. We’re packing up the bags and everything, and you know how it is, you do a bunch of work and then you stop for a second and your wife and kids are gone and you’re like, pull out the phone, swap through the dream 100 and see what’s happening.  And somehow this post pops up in my feed and I see it, I see Nic my buddy from 20+ years ago and I’m reading this thing and my heart sinks for him. Some of the things he says, “I hate posting things like this, but I felt like need to for a while. Being poor stinks. For those friends of mine who are ultra conservative and look down consciously or not, on people like me, I can honestly tell you that I’m not a lazy free loader who wants something for nothing. I’m not a deadbeat who wants Obama or whoever to blame now, to buy me a phone. I’m not a lowlife trying to get the government to pay for my liposuction. I’m not a druggie who eats steak and lobster for dinner with my food stamps. I’m a father of four, a husband, someone who lost everything financially, including our home when the time came to have your healthcare in place or to get fined, I went through the process. “Based on my family size and income, we were referred to the state to apply for those programs. We couldn’t get coverage for ourselves to the exchange in other places, we qualified for Medicaid. After the process was complete, the state worker suggested we try to get some other help, some food stamps.” It kind of goes on and on and on and he says, “In 2016 I made $25000. $25,000 plus our tax returns for the previous year. So a family of 6 living on $25,000 a year is being audited for receiving too much help, too much assistance.” And it kind of goes on and on and on with that. He says, “I’ve never abused drugs or alcohol, I’ve never even tried them. I’m just a guy trying to live the American dream and provide for his family. It’s unfortunate that we look down on those who are trying to better our lives, even if it leaves them from receiving help from assistance in place to help them. Look down on me if you want, I don’t care. I know the truth. My family is healthy and sheltered and that’s all that matters. I don’t wish these trials on anyone else…” and it kind of goes on from there. So I want to take you back to that moment, what was, talk about what you were experiencing and what you were going through during that time. Nic: I didn’t expect this. I’m a friendly giant, but I’m a big boob too. Back at that time, I had started what I thought was, I started my entrepreneurial journey. I was working in film full time, working 12, 14, 16 hour days making $200 a day, just killing myself for my family. Going through the process of, I’d lost my job because I wasn’t going to hit my sales, I was a financial advisor, and I wasn’t going to hit my sales numbers. So you know, my ticket was stamped. So I said okay, I’m going to do my own thing. And in the course of all that, it was time to get your health insurance and those things, and I went through the proper channels, like I felt like I should. And I was referred to the government for the programs, based on the numbers. And as a provider, a father, an athlete competitor, I felt like a failure. We’ve all, when you have to rely on somebody else , or somebody else tells you, “Hey, we don’t think you can do this on your own, come over here and we’ll take care of you.” That’s basically what I was told. So it was hard to accept that and to live with that reality. So we did, and I worked hard and it was a blessing really, to not have to worry about how much health care costs or have some of the things to supplement to feed our family and stuff. So it was great and it was wonderful. But then I got the email from the state saying, “Hey, you’re being audited. We’re just looking at things and we’re not sure. You’ve been getting too much help.” So at that point I’m just sitting there frustrated because I’m working my butt off, just trying to make things happen, become someone involved in the film community in Utah. And I was, and everyone knew me, and I had a reputation, but I still was a nobody in the eyes of the government. So I went to Facebook to whine, looking for what I wanted, which was a pat on the back, “There, there Nic, you’re doing…we know you’re a good dude and you’re working hard.” That kind of thing, and I did… Russell: I was reading the comments last night. “Oh you’re doing a good job man. Good luck.” Everyone like babying him about how tough life can be. Nic: So I got what I wanted, but it still didn’t change anything. I still had to submit my last two years of tax returns and all of the pay that I’d got and everything like that, so they could look at our case number, not Nic, Leisle, Cloe,Ewen, Alek, William. So it was just one of those things. I got what I wanted, then comes Russell to give me what I needed, which was…. Russell: I saw that and I’m like packing the kids bags and everything and I was like, “ah, do I say something?” I don’t want to be that guy like, “Hey, 20 years ago…” and I was like, ah, I kept feeling this. Finally I was like, “hey man, I know we haven’t talked in over 20 years…” This was on Facebook messenger, “we hadn’t talked in like 20 years. I saw your post today and it sucks. And I know what’s wrong, and I can help. But at the same time, I don’t want to be that guy and I don’t want to step on any toes. I know we haven’t talked in 20 years, I have no idea if this is even appropriate. But I know what’s wrong, I can help you. And no, this is not some cheesy MLM I’m trying to pitch you on. But if you’re interested in some coaching, I know what’s wrong.” And I kind of waited and then I started packing the bags again and stuff like that. I’m curious of your thoughts initially as you saw that. Nic: It’s funny because my phone was kind of blowing up with the comments. So I would hear the little ding and I would check. And then I saw that it was a message from Russell, and we had said like, “Hey, what’s up.” And had a few tiny little small talk conversations, but nothing in depth personal. So I saw that he sent a message, so I’m like, “Sweet.” So I look at it, and I was half expecting, because I knew he was successful, I didn’t know about Clickfunnels per se. I knew he had something going on that was awesome, but I didn’t know what it was. So I was wondering, “I wonder what he’s going to say, what he has to say about things?” But I read it and it was funny because when you said, “I don’t want to overstep my bounds. It’s been a long time, I don’t want to step on toes.” Kind of thing, Russell, we all know his athletic accolades and stuff. I was a great basketball player too, I was in the top 200 players in the country my senior year and stuff like that. So I’ve been coachable and played at high levels and been coached by high level guys. So when I read it and he said, “I know what’s wrong and I can help you.” I was just like, “Yes.” That was my reaction. I just did the little, um, fist pump, let’s do this. So I replied back and I thanked him for reaching out and stuff, and I just said, I think I even said, “I’m coachable. I will accept any guidance.” And things like that. Because up until that point in my life, especially in sports, if a coach showed me something, I would do it the way he did, and I would kick the other dude’s butt. I didn’t care. I played against guys who made millions of dollars in the NBA. I dunked, I posterized on Shawn Marion when he was at UNLV my freshman year of college. I started as a freshman in a division one school in college. So I would take, I’ve always been that kind of, I would get that guidance, that direction, I can put it to work. So I was just like, “Dude, Mr. Miyagi me.” I’m 8 days older than him, so I’m like, “young grasshopper, yes you can teach me.” That kind of thing. So I welcomed it and I was excited. I had no idea, because again I didn’t know what he did. I just knew he had a level of success that I didn’t have. And if he was willing to give me some ideas, I was going to hear him out for sure. Russell: It was fun, because then I messaged him back. I’m packing the car and Collette’s like, “We gotta go, we gotta go.” I was like, ah, so I get the thing out and I was like, “This is the deal. I’m driving to Bear Lake, it’s like a six hour drive. I’m going to give you an assignment and if you do it, then I’ll give you the next piece. But most people never do it, so if you don’t that’s cool and I’ll just know it’s not worth your time. But if it’s really worth your time, do this thing. I need you to go back and listen to my podcast from episode one and listen to as many episodes as possible, and if you do that I’ll make you a customized episode just for you telling you exactly what’s wrong and how to fix it. But you have to do that first. “And I’m not telling you this because I’m on some ego trip, but just trust me. The problem is not your skill set, you  have mad skills, you’re good at everything. It’s all a problem between your ears. If we can shift that, we can shift everything else.” Then I jumped in my car and took off and started driving for six hours. And then the next day, or a day later you’re like, “I’m 14 episodes in.” he was still listening to the crappy one’s, according to Steven Larsen. The Marketing In Your Car, he was probably thinking, “This is the worst thing I’ve ever heard, ever.” But he did it. I said do it, he did it. And he kept doing it and doing it, and so two days into my family vacation I had Norah, you guys all know Norah right. She’s the coolest. But she won’t go to bed at night, she’s a nightmare. Don’t let that cute face trick you, she’s evil. So I’m like, I can’t go to sleep, so finally I was like, I’m going to plug her in the car and drive around the lake until she falls asleep. So I plug her in the car, strap her in and I start driving. And I’m like, this could be a long, long thing. She’s just smiling back here. I was like ugh. I’m like you know what, I’m going to do my episode for Nic. So I got my phone out, I clicked record and for probably almost an hour, it was an hour. I’m driving around the lake and I explain to him what I see. Did anyone here listen to that episode? I’m curious. I’m going to map out really quick, the core concept. Because some of you guys may be stuck in this, and the goal of this, what I want to do is I want to map this out, and then what’s funny is last year at Bear Lake, so a year later we had this thing where I was like, we should do a second round where I do a year later, this is the advice now. And I wrote a whole outline for it and I totally never did it. So I’m going to go through that outline now, and kind of show him the next phase. So you cool if I show kind of what I talked about? Nic: For sure. Russell: Alright, so those who missed the podcast episode, who haven’t been binge listening, you’ve all failed the test, now you must go back to episode number one, listen to the cheesy jingle and get to episode, I don’t know what it was. Okay, I’ve said this before, if you look at any business, any organization, there’s three core people. The first one is the person at the top who is the entrepreneur. The cool thing about the entrepreneur is the entrepreneur is the person who makes the most amount of money. They’re the head and they get the most amount of money. The problem with the entrepreneur is they also have the most risk, so they’re most likely to lose everything. I’ve lost everything multiple times because I’m the guy risking everything. But the nice thing is entrepreneurs that write their own paychecks, there’s no ceilings. So they can make as much as they want. They can make a million, ten million, a hundred million, they can do whatever they want because there’s no ceiling. So that’s the first personality type. The second personality type over here is what we call the technicians. The technicians are the people who actually do the work. And what’s funny, if you look at this, people who go to college are the technicians. What do they do, they look down on entrepreneurs, they look down on sales people. “Oh you’re in sales. What are you a doctor?” For crying out loud in the night. But they look down on people like us. Because “I’m a doctor. I went to 45 years of school.” What’s interesting, there’s technicians in all sorts of different spots right. I actually feel bad, I shouldn’t say this out loud, but at the airport here I saw one of my friends who is an amazing doctor and him and his wife were leaving on a trip and we were talking and he said, “This is the first trip my wife and I have been on in 25 years, together by ourselves.” I’m like, “What?” and he’s like, ‘Well, we had medical school and then we had kids and then we had to pay off medical school and all these things. Now the kids are gone and now we finally have a chance to leave.” I was like, wow. Our whole lives we’ve heard that medical school, becoming a doctor is the…..anyway that’s a rant for another day. But I was like, there’s technicians. And what’s interesting about technicians, they don’t have any risk. So there’s no risk whatsoever, but they do have, there’s a price ceiling on every single person that’s a technician, right. And depending on what job you have your price ceiling is different. So doctors, the price ceiling is, I have no idea what doctor’s make, $500 grand a year is like the price ceiling, that’s amazing but they can’t go above that. And different tasks, different roles, different position all have different price ceilings. But there’s like, this role as a technician makes this much, and this one makes this much and you’re all kind of these things. I said the problem with you right now, you have these amazing skill sets, but you are stuck as a technician in a role where they’re capping you out, where the only thing you can make is $25k a year. Remember I asked you, “What have you been doing?” and you’re like, “Oh, I’ve been networking, I’ve been learning, I’ve been getting my skills up, getting amazing.” I’m like, “That’s amazing, you’re skills are awesome, but your ceiling is $25k a year. No matter how good you get you are stuck because you’re in a technician role right now.” I said, “you’ve got a couple of options. One is go become an entrepreneur, which is scary because you’ve got four kids at home and you don’t have money anyway.” I am so eternally grateful that when I started this game, my wife, first off, we didn’t have kids yet, my wife was working, we didn’t have any money but I didn’t have to have any money at that time, and I’m so grateful I was able to sometimes, I was able to risk things that nowadays is hard. For you to come jump out on your own initially and just be like, “Boom, I’m an entrepreneur and I’m selling this stuff.” That’s scary right, because you’ve got all this risk. So I was like, that’s the thing, but it’s going to be really, really hard. I said, “there’s good news, there’s one more spot in this ecosystem. And the cool thing about that spot it’s that it’s just like the entrepreneur, there’s no ceiling, now the third spot over here is what we call the rainmakers. The rainmakers are the people who come into a business and they know how to make it rain. This is the people who know how to bring people into a company. Leads, they bring leads in. They know all this traffic stuff they’re talking about. These are the people who know how to sell to leads and actually get money out of peoples wallets and put it into the hands of the entrepreneurs. These people right here, the rainmakers don’t  have ceilings. In fact, companies who give the rainmaker the ceiling are the stupidest people in the world, because the rainmaker will hit the ceiling and then they’ll stop. If you’re smart and you have a company, and you have rainmakers, people driving traffic, people doing sales, if you have a ceiling they will hit and they will stop. If you get rid of the ceiling and then all the sudden they have as much as they want, they have less risk than the entrepreneur, but they have the ability to make unlimited amount of money. I said, “Your skill set over here as a technician is worth 25k a year, but if you take your skill set and shift it over here and say, “I come into a company and I’m a rainmaker. I create videos, I create stories, they’ll sell more products, more things.” Suddenly you’re not worth 25,000, now you’re worth $100,000, you’re worth $500,000. You’re worth whatever you’re able to do, because there’s no ceiling anymore. And that was the point of the podcast. I got done sending it, then I sent it to him and I sent it to my brother to edit it. And I have no idea what you thought about it at that point, because we didn’t talk for a while after that. But I’m curious where you went from there. Nic: So the first thing, you know, being told I was really only worth $25,000 in the eyes of the people who were hiring me, that was a punch in the gut. That sucked to hear. Thanks man. It was just like, I literally was working 12, 14, 16 hour days, lifting heavy stuff, I did a lot with lighting and camera work, not necessarily the story writing stuff, but you know, for him to put it so perfectly, that I was a technician. I thought going in, when I failed as an advisor and I started my own company, or started doing videos for people, and being so scared to charge somebody $250 for a video, being like, “they’re going to say no.” That kind of thing, and now I wouldn’t blink my eyes for that. But you know, it’s one of those things for him to tell it to me that way, just straight forward being like, “You are, you’re learning great skills and you’re meeting amazing people.” I worked with Oscar winners and Emmy winners and stuff in the movies and shows that I worked on, but again, I was only worth that much, they had a finite amount of money, and I was a small part of it, so I got a small piece. So listening to all of that, and then hearing the entrepreneur, the risk and stuff. I’m really tall, I’m 6’9” if you didn’t know. I’m a sink or swim guy, but because I’m tall I can reach the bottom of the pool a lot easier. When I jumped in, we had lost, as a financial advisor we had lost our home and we lost all these things. So I was like, I have nothing left to lose. Worst case scenario, and I had never heard that mindset before. We were renting a basement from a family members, our cars were paid off. Worst case scenario is we stayed there and get food stamps and that kind of thing. There was nowhere to go but up from there. So for me, I was just so excited. I’m like, I want to be a rainmaker, I want to be an entrepreneur, but I didn’t know where to find the people that I could do that for. So I was in this thing where I was still getting lots of calls to work as a technician, but I didn’t want to do that anymore. I didn’t want to put myself, my body, my family through me being gone and then when I’m home I’m just a bump on a log because I’m so wiped out, all that kind of stuff. So that was my biggest first thing, the action point for me. I started thinking, okay how do I transition out of this? How do I get myself out and start meeting the right people, the right kinds of clients who do have budgets and things like that, and how do I make it rain for them. That’s when I made that shift from working as a technician. I told myself I’m not going to do it anymore. The last time I technically worked as a technician was about 9 months ago. It was for a friend. So I made that shift and it was just amazing. Like Russell was talking about earlier, when you start to track it or when it’s part of your mindset, things start to show up and happen. You meet the right people and stuff. So those things just started, just by listening to that one hour long thing, I started changing and then the black box I got, Expert Secrets and Dotcom Secrets and started going through that as well. And it was just like, you see in the Funnel Hacker TV, that moment where the guy goes, “RAAAAA” that’s what happened with me. It was like a whole new world, Aladdin was singing. He was Aladdin and I was Jasmine, with a beard. Russell: I can show you the world. Nic: Exactly. But that’s what really, literally happened with me. Russell: That’s cool. Alright this is like summertime, he’s going through this process now, figuring things, changing things, shifting things, he’s changing his mindset. We go through the summer, we go through Christmas and then last year’s Funnel Hacking Live, were we in February or March last year? March, and so before Funnel Hacking Live we kind of just touched base every once in a while, seeing how things are going. He’s like, “Things are going good. I’m figuring things out.”  And then Funnel Hacking Live was coming, and I remember because we’re sitting there, and I think he messaged me or something, “Funnel Hacking looks awesome I wish I could make it.” I was like, “Why don’t you come?” And you’re like, “I just can’t make it yet.” I was like, “How about this man, I guarantee you if you show up it’ll change your life forever. I’m not going to pay for your flights or your hotel, but if you can figure out how to get there, I’ll give you a free ticket.” And that’s I said, “if you can come let Melanie know, and that’s it.” And I didn’t really know much, because you guys know in the middle of Funnel Hacking Live my life is chaos trying to figure out and how to juggle and all that stuff. So the next thing I know at Funnel Hacking Live, we’re sitting there and during the session I’m looking out and I see Nic standing there in the audience. And I was like, ‘I have no idea how he got there, but he’s there. Freaking good for him.” And I have no idea, how did you get there? That wasn’t probably an easy process for you was it? Nic: No. Credit cards. It was one of those things, I looked at flights. As soon as we had that conversation, it was funny because I was, I can’t remember what was going on, but it was a day or two before I responded back to his invitation. And I was like, I’d be stupid to say no. I have no idea how I’m going to get there. I think I even said, “I’ll hitch hike if I have to, to get there.” Can you imagine this giant sasquatch on route 66 trying to get to Florida. But I told my wife about it, and this is where Russell might have this in common. My wife is incredible and super supportive and she let me go. And we didn’t have the money in the bank so I said, “I’m going to put this on the credit card, and as soon as I get back I’m going to go to work and I’ll pay it off. I’ll get a couple clients and it will be fine.” So I booked the hotel, luckily I was able to get somebody who wasn’t able to go at the last minute and I got their hotel room, and I got the lfight and I came in and I was in the tornado warnings, like circling the airport for 5 hours, like the rest of you were. So I got there and I just remember I was just so excited. Walking in the room the very first day, the doors open and you all know what it’s like. I don’t have to relive this story. I remember I walked in and the hair on my arms, it was just like {whistling}. It was incredible, just the energy and the feeling. And I was like, t his is so cool. And then the very first speech, I was like that was worth every penny to get here. If I left right now it would have all been worth it. And you all know because you’re sitting here, you’ve felt that too. So that was my, getting there was like, “Honey, I know we don’t have the money, we have space on the credit card, and when I get home I swear I will work hard and it will be okay.” And she’s like, “Okay, go.” So I did. Russell: So now I want to talk about, not day one, or day two, but on day three at Funnel Hacking Live. How many of you guys remember what happened on day three? Russell sneak attacked all you guys. I was like, if I start going “Secret one, Secret two, Secret three” you guys will be like, “Here it is.” Sitting back. I was like, how do I do the Perfect webinar without people knowing it’s the perfect webinar? And I’m figuring this whole thing out, trying to figure that out. And we built a nice presentation, create an amazing offer for this program you guys are all in. And as you know, all you guys got excited and ran to the back to sign up and now you’re here. But you told me this personally, I hope you’re willing to share. But I thought it was amazing because you didn’t sign up that night. And I would love to hear what happened from then to the next day, and kind of go through that process. Nic: So this is my first Clickfunnels, I was all new to this whole thing. I was so excited when the 12 month millionaire presentation came up and I was like, “This is awesome.” Then I see it in the stack and I’m like, “I’m seeing the wizard,  I can see the wizard doing his thing.” And I was just so excited, and then the price. And it was a punch in a gut to me, because I was so, listening to it I was like, ‘This is what I need. This is what I want, this is what I need. It’s going to be amazing.” And then the price came and seriously, the rest of the night I was just like…. The rest of the presentation and everything after that I was just kind of zoned out. I just didn’t know what to do. Because I knew I needed it so badly and I’m like, that’s almost twice what we’re paying in rent right now. You know, it was just like, how am I going to justify this when I’m on food stamps and Medicaid and all this kind of stuff. You know, “yes, I’m on that but I dropped this money on a coaching program.” Russell: “From this internet coach.” Nic: Right. And so I’m having this mental battle and get back home to my room that night and I didn’t go hang out with people. I just was not feeling it. And I remember texting my wife on the walk back to the room. And I took the long way around the pond, just slowly depressedly meandering back to my room. And I’m texting her and I’m telling her how amazing it was and what the program would do and all that kind of stuff, and she’s like, “That sounds great.” And I’m purposely not saying how much it’s going to cost, just to get her excited about it, so I can maybe do a stack with her right. “For this and this….” See if I could try it. I didn’t, I failed when it came to doing that. I told her the price and she’s like, “That’s a lot of money. How are you going to pay for it.” And I’m like, “I don’t know.” And I’m like, “The only thing I can do, because I have to sign up while I’m here, and pay for it while I’m here. I can put it on the credit card and then we will figure it out.” So we talked a lot and I talked to my dad and it was the same thing. He was like, “Man, that’s a lot.” Just the scarcity mindset that a lot of us have with our family members and support system who aren’t, don’t think, who aren’t the crazy ones. So I went to bed and I got emotional, and I slept so so bad. Just didn’t sleep well that whole night. And again, I talked to my wife again the next morning, and I just, we just said, “It would be awesome. But I can’t do it, so I’m just going to work hard and figure something out and then if it ever opens up again, then I’ll be in a position to do it.” So I left my room that morning with that in my mind. I made the mistake of keeping my wallet in my pocket though, because I’m here. I again made the long walk back and kind of gave myself a pep talk like, “Don’t worry about that kind of stuff. Just more value out of it, meet more people.” So that’s when I left my room that morning, that’s where my mind was. Russell: What happened next? Nic: I walked into the room and Kevin Hansen, who I had, it’s funny, he does a lot of editing for Clickfunnels, and he and I had actually met independent of Clickfunnels before. It was one of those things like, “Oh you do, oh my gosh.” and it was like 2 months after we’d met. So I was talking to him, just chitchatting, and I just had right then in my mind, it was like, “Walk over to the table and sign up. If you don’t do it now, you’re never going to do it.” And it was just one of those things, because I’d given myself that speech, that whole five minute walk across the property. So I finished up talking with him and I just said, “I’ll be right back.” And I walked straight over to the table, got out the credit card, wrote it all down, and I’m like, I don’t even know what my limit is, so I hope whenever they run this that it goes through. I don’t know what’s going to happen. So I did and I got that little silver ribbon that we all got. And again, {whistling} chills. Like I was like, holy crap, this is amazing. I put it on my little lanyard thing and I was just like, I couldn’t believe it. The adrenaline and all that stuff of, “I’m doing it. And my wife is going to kill me when I get back home.” So that’s, then I went and got my seat and I was just floating, you know. I was so amped, I could have “Steven Larsened” it and screamed over the noise of everybody else and it would have been very, you would have heard it. So that’s what I did that morning. I was like, ‘Not going to do it, not going to do it, not going to do it.” I walked in, 60 seconds done. You have my money. Russell: So I’m curious, when did you tell your wife? This is like a marriage counseling session, huh? Nic: yeah, do you have a couch I can lay down on? Russell: A big couch. Nic: yeah, really. So I got home and I didn’t tell her, at all. I didn’t. I said, the clock is ticking. I have 30 days until that hits, or 20 days until the credit card statement comes and she’s like, “Wait, why is there an extra $2000 bucks on here?” So I just, I said, I’ve got some time because my wife, she’s 5’3”, she’s dainty, little petite lady, but she’s not scary I guess. But this is the first time I was really scared to tell her something in our marriage. So I just said, I’m just going to hit the road hard and see what I can come up with to cover at least the $1800 and the hotel, for what I racked up at Funnel Hacking Live, and then that will get me another 30 days to figure something out. So I went and I never told her until the credit card statement came and she saw it. She’s like, “What’s this?” But what happened before that, I don’t know, do you have something after that or do you want me to go to the next part? Okay, so me going to work and being like, “I gotta find it.” and it’s funny that night at Funnel Hacking Live, I went on Facebook and I created some half thought through offer where it was like, “Hey if I can get like 5 people locally where I’m at to do a monthly low number where I create a couple of videos for a monthly retainer, that will cover it and I can figure it. But nobody nibbled on it. So I got home and I started just trying to figure stuff out. And I had met another lady who had a company and she uses Clickfunnels for her course. And it was funny, I talked to her before I went to Funnel Hacking Live, and we were talking and she was like, “Do you know Clickfunnels?” And I was like, “That’s so crazy. I do.” Because I’d never met anybody else that had. So I got home and I shot a little video with her, it was a test to do some modules for her course and she loved it and it was great. So we were talking about, she had like 20 videos she wanted to do and we were talking about budget, and I just said, “you know what, for that much, for that many videos and all this kind of stuff, it’s going to be $25,000.” And she didn’t even blink. She’s like, “Perfect, that’s great.” Thank you, you guys. You’re going to make me cry. Thank you.  And that was like maybe two weeks after I got home that that happened. And I left her house and I tried my hardest not to do a jump heel click going down her driveway, out to my car, and I got around the corner and I messaged Russell like, “dude, you’ll never guess. I just closed my first 5 figure deal and this is what it was…” and he was like, “That’s so cool.” You know. But it was the whole plata o plomo thing, I would never have the guts to ask for something like that, I know that I should and that my skills and what I can do are worth that and more, and it’s been proven to me again and again since then, but to ask the first time, that first time you have a big ask and you’re just throwing yourself out there, and if she would have said no…Now what am I going to do? Because I had actually done another pitch where I did like a webinar pitch where I  had a stack and slides and stuff because it was for a Chamber of Commerce, and I wanted to charge them 2500 a month to do like 4 videos a year. And I did the whole thing like, “If you do it, it’s $2500 a month, or if you do it all right now it’s this…” that whole you know, and they passed on it. I was like, ugh. So it was just one of those things where being around y’all, that was my first experience being around entrepreneurs, really. I have friends who have had businesses, but I felt weird for wanting to create my own thing or being selfish because I have four kids. Like why don’t you go get a real job? All those conversations that you hear and have with yourself, especially when things aren’t going great. But it was like okay, I have to get it done or I have to drop out. And I just, even in that short amount of time I received so much value from the people I was beginning to meet, and then as the content started coming out I was like, “There’s no way I could live without this after having a taste of it.” So that was my, I had to get it done and it worked out. Russell: Amazing, I love that story. So coo. Alright, so since then, how many of you guys have watched his….are you daily or almost daily Facebook Lives? Nic: Pretty much, almost daily. I’ll miss some… Russell: How many of you guys have watched his daily Facebook lives, he’s doing what we’re saying right. He’s doing it. He’s doing it. I see it, I see it coming in my feed. It pops in my feed over and over. He’s doing what we’re talking about. He’s attracting people, he’s telling stories. All the stuff we’re talking about, he’s been doing it. But part of it, he had to have that emotion, that plata o plomo moment and then he hit it and it’s just like, he’s been running and running and running and running. And it’s been so insanely fun to watch the progress and the growth. Some of you guys know he put out an event that’s coming up this weekend and sold out in 5 seconds. He’s like, “I sold out, should I make it bigger?” and I’m like, “No people should have responded to you faster, it’s their fault. Sell it out because next time it will be easier to sell it out again and easier to sell out again.” But he did it by giving tons of value. Telling stories, telling stories, telling stories, providing more value to you guys, to other entrepreneurs, other people in the community and people are noticing. All the stuff we talked about today, he’s doing it. Consistently, consistently, consistently doing it. That was so cool. I don’t even know where to go from here. Alright I know where to go from here. Before I move into this, was it scary? Nic: All of it scary? Well, this is what, back to my competitive days, I don’t care who, I’d played against the best players in the country at high levels. And I didn’t care if you were going to the NBA, being recruited by Duke, once we got into the lines I didn’t care who you were, I was going to make you look silly. I would hold, you wouldn’t score a point on me, or I would just like out work you and if you wanted to get anywhere I was in your face the whole time. And so this was a whole different game for me. I remember Myron talking about in his speech at Funnel Hacking Live, you have to stay in the game long enough to learn the game, and I was new to this game. Like brand new, less than 12 months when I went to Funnel Hacking Live. And it was terrifying because, not necessarily because I didn’t think I could do it, I was just worried when, how long it would take. Like am I going to go and just spin my wheels and it’s going to be 15 years, 2099 and I’m wheeling up across to get my reward from him in his wheelchair, just like, “Hey buddy.” You know, that kind of thing. I just didn’t know how to make it happen quick. That kind of stuff. So I was definitely scared, not necessarily of failing, because I had failed before, I was just scared how long it was going to take. Russell: one of the best moments for me was this summer, him and his family were driving home from, I can’t remember where, they were driving through Boise, and he’s like, “Can we swing by and say hi? My kids want to meet you, my wife wants to meet you.” That’s always scary when you haven’t met someone’s wife or kids and you’re like, what if they hate me. And I remember I started thinking, oh my gosh. He spent all his money coming out here, and then he bought the thing, she might legitimately want to kill me. I have no idea. I was a little bit nervous. And I came and met them and the kids, it was super cool. I remember the coolest thing, your wife just looked at me and she said, “Thank you.” And I was like, how cool is that? Just the coolest thing. Thank you for convincing, persuading, whatever the things are to do this thing. I think sometimes as entrepreneurs we feel the guilt or the nervousness of, “Should I sell somebody something? Is it right, is it wrong?” You have to understand when you’re doing it, it’s not a selfish thing for you. It’s like, how do I get this person to take the action they need to do. Because most people won’t do it until they make an investment. It’s just human nature. They’ll keep dinking around and dinking around, whatever it is until they have a commitment, until they make that covenant, like Myron talked about earlier, people don’t change. So in any aspect of life, you want someone to make a change, there’s got to be something that causes enough pain to cause the change, which is why we have the program. We could have priced the program really, really cheap but I was like, “No we won’t.” We legitimately wanted to make a plata o plomo moment for everybody. You’ll notice, when the program signup, not everybody who signed up is here today. Some people fell away, some of them left, things happen and I totally understand, but I wanted to make it painful enough that we get people to move. And there are people in this room, I’ve joked about, Nic probably shouldn’t have bought that. If he would have asked I would’ve been like, “No dude, don’t. What are you thinking? Why would you do that?” as a friend this is weird, but I’m so grateful. Are you grateful you did? Nic: Absolutely. Russell: Where’s Marie Larsen, is she still in here? I talked about this in the podcast. She was in the same situation, she should not have signed up for it, it’s insane. I saw this text she sent Steven, she’s like, how much did you have in your bank account when you signed up for it? $70 in the bank account, $1800 a month bill she signed up for. And then it started happening and she was freaking out how it’s going, if you guys haven’t listened to the podcast, Lean In, yet I told the whole story. But it got nervous month one, then month two happened and she’s like, “Oh my gosh, I need to leave. I can’t afford this.” And she’s talking with Steven and Steven’s like, “Well, you could leave and walk away, or you could lean in.” so she decided, “Okay, I’m going to lean in.” So she leaned in, and I’ve watched as her business over the last 3, 4, 5, 6 months is growing and it’s growing and it’s growing because she leaned in. Tough times will come, every single time it comes, but those who lean in are the ones who make it through that, and who grow and who build huge businesses. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

One of the fastest ways to make money without having to build an actual business. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Right now, I've been working on Funnel Hacking Live and planning and preparing a bunch of really cool things. I want to share with you guys a concept that I'm working on for potentially a presentation at Funnel Hacking Live, so you’ve got to tell me if you think it’s cool. If so, I'm going to flush this out and show you guys the magic. With that said, queue up the theme song and when we come back I’m going to talk about virtual real estate secrets. All right. So Funnel Hacking Live is coming. I'm pumped. I'm excited. We're planning out the event, the venue, the excitement, the speakers, the presentations, what I want you guys to get. I'm time-lining, storyboarding out the entire thing. If you knew how much goes into Funnel Hacking live, you'd be pretty excited. For those who have been in the past, you know it is a huge show. And for those who haven't been yet, this year is going to be the best ever. And why? Because, number one, I'm hoping by then, most of the COVID restrictions are done and we can just have a normal event. If not, we've got some backup and contingency plans. But for most of us, we haven't hung out for a long time, and I want to get together, hang out with a bunch of funnel hackers. So the parties on. We're doing it. It's happening in Florida. If you don't have your tickets yet, go to funnelhackinglive.com. It's coming up this September. But regardless, the reason why I'm here today is tell you guys I've been planning this event and I've got some really cool stuff I'm going to share. We have some big updates. There's so much, so much stuff that they're constraining me from speaking. I'm not allowed to tell you guys, but regardless, I promise you, you will want to be there. It's going to be worth it. We do have virtual options this year, and so for those who can't physically come, you can watch. You can attend virtually as well. But anyway, I'm working on some ideas for content and I have something I want to talk about. It's been on my mind for literally, probably 10, 12 years, and it's this concept of virtual real estate. Okay? Obviously, most of you guys know what real estate is, right? You buy houses, you flip houses, you rehab houses, no money down, all this stuff. There's a million different ways to make money in real estate. But as cool as that is, real estate typically cost a lot of money if you go and do the thing, which is kind of annoying. And so, I want to talk about this concept called virtual real estate, which is web properties. What's interesting is anything you can do with a real property, like actual real estate, you can do the same things with virtual real estate, especially as you start becoming a master of all these principles and these concepts you've been learning from us, right? You learn about funnel building and traffic generation and copy and storytelling and all these things. When you learn and start mastering these things, you can literally do the exact same things that people are doing with real estate, but with virtual real estate. And honestly, it's a lot more profitable, a lot less startup costs and things like that. For example, let's say I want to go into actual real estate. So I'm going to go find a house and I'm going to find a house that's underpriced. I'm going to buy it. So say I find a house for 200 grand or whatever. I buy this house. I'm going to take them. I'm going to fix it up. I'm going to slap some paint on it. I'm going to throw in a new washer and dryer, a new refrigerator. I'm going to, whatever, lipstick and rouge to make this house nice, and then I'm to go flip it and make like $50,000 profit, right? There's a strategy in regular real estate, right? Now, you may be saying, "Well, how does that work in virtual real estate?" Okay. Well, there's a lot of people who create some insanely cool products who don't know what you know, and there's a lot of places to find these things. One of them is flippa.com, which is a cool place that is literally a marketplace, people selling websites and products and businesses that they created but they couldn't figure it out. And there's tons of other marketplaces. I don't have them here on top of my head, but Flippa is one of my favorites I go to. Almost daily, I look at Flippa. There's other ones out there. I think Shopify's got a marketplace, all their old Shopify store owners to sell there's. Anyway, there's a lot of out there. But basically you go to these stores and you find something where someone's got a really, really cool product, but they suck at what? All the stuff that you're good at, right? It's like a house, that you find this underpriced house. Yeah, the house looks like crap, but I know all you got to do is throw some lipstick on this thing, some paint, a new refrigerator, and this thing's something going to be worth $50,000 more. Right? You can do the same thing online. You can buy a website for five grand, 10 grand, 50 grand, 100 grand, whatever it is, a lot less typically than a house. You buy the thing and say, "Okay. I know these principles now. I understand this thing needs a funnel. I found a Shopify that's got a whole product line, whole bunch of SKUs, but no one's buying it because there's no funnel. So I know how to build a funnel." Right? Your funnel is your version of some paint you're slapping up on thing, or you're putting in a new fridge and a dishwasher to make the resell value go up. You put a funnel in. You guys know traffic generation after read traffic secrets. You plug in some traffic, start driving traffic. People go through the funnel. You make some money and follow up sequence, then plugs them into the Shopify store. And boom, all of a sudden, this thing that's making no money you buy for five grand is now making five grand a month, 10 grand a month, 100 grand a month, whatever it is. Now you can take that and you can flip it, or you can just keep it like cash flow. Right? You can do the same thing with a house. You can let the house cashflow, or you can flip it or a whole bunch of other things. Okay. It's powerful. I think this is primarily my fault. I obviously am very passionate and excited about me and you guys creating businesses out of our minds, like creating courses and products. I talk a lot about that or creating e-commerce stuff. You go and you find a product and you source it from China or whatever. We talk about those things a lot. But what people don't talk about is the fact that there's tons, millions of businesses that people built that are there that are just dead or they're mostly dead. Well, you can come in and buy them at a huge discount where the product's figured out, the content, that all the stuff's done. They just don't have traffic. They just don't have the funnel. They just don't have a good video. They don't have good storytelling. They don't have like the things that you have now. You don't have to go create anything from scratch. You just go buy these things for pennies on a dollar. Buy it, apply it with lipstick and rouge that you've been learning through all the stuff I've been teaching now for the last two decades. And all of a sudden, you can start making money out of the gate. And so, secretly, as I've been thinking about Funnel Hacking Live now for the last year, since we hung out last, I've been thinking about this. I was like, "I want to do this. I want to show some case studies of me doing it." And so when COVID hit, a lot of businesses went under. A lot of businesses got shut down. A lot of them, they lost their cashflow. A lot of them, like all sorts of things start happening. So I started looking for these opportunities and I started buying a handful of them. I won't be able to show you guys now because we're in the process of... At Funnel Hacking Live, I'll be able to show you, "Hey, I bought this company right here. I bought it for $50,000. I applied this funnel, this traffic strategy, these three things, put it up online. Now it's making 10 grand a month. I bought this one right here for this. I bought this one for free. I just had to cover the new inventory costs, paid for inventory costs. I applied this funnel, this funnel, this funnel, boom, launched it and look what happened." I'm going to have tons of case studies to show you guys. So that's kind of something to look forward to Funnel Hacking Live. But for right now, I want you guys thinking about it as well. Okay? It's on my mind. It's fun. It's exciting. Think about it. What businesses are out there that you could buy, you could partner with, you could take equity in? You went out of business. You could go get the assets and you can turn it back into a business. You turn it back on. If you look at Tai Lopez right now. You could say what you want. Some people love it. Some people hate him. I have so much respect for him. I think he's the man. I've hung out with him a bunch of times, and one thing that he's killing on right now, he went and he bought Radio Shack. They're going under. He bought Radio Shack and he's flipping it now. He bought Franklin Mint. He bought Pier One Imports. He's buying all these crazy companies. It is literally nuts. He's buying them for pennies on the dollar, flipping them, turning them into e-commerce, shutting down the physical locations, and he's killing it with it right now. It's like this is what I'm talking but at a small scale. Tai's doing this huge scale. Even I'm like, "That's ridiculous. You bought Pier One Imports, dude, like that's nuts." Or Radio Shack? Come on, Radio Shack? It's just insane, but that's the deals he's doing now which, yeah, we can get there someday. But right now, there's tons of little deals, tons of little things you can go. And just for today, for fun, go to flippa.com, F-L-I-P-P-A .com. Go there and just scroll through. Look for all the businesses that are for sale and just look at them and say... This is the mental exercise. Look at a business and say, "Okay, this is a house. I'm going to rehab this house. If I was to buy this house, what funnels would I apply to make this thing successful?" For example, one of the ones that I am recently acquired is a supplement company. And so supplement companies, they had a Shopify store. They had product. The products are really, really good, but they don't have funnels. So what funnels would I apply? I'm like, well, first off, they need a supplement funnel. So there's a supplement funnel. Second, I'm like, what can we create to get more people into the funnel? Well, we can make a challenge tied to the supplements. There's a challenge funnel. There's a supplement funnel, and so those things. Then it's like now... the people that had it before, they had a lot of organic traffic. They were selling on Amazon and things like that, but they had no traffic. It's like, well, who's our dream 100? What's the traffic strategy? And then it's like, well, they don't have anything to sell us other than just a picture of the product. What's the story we can tell? What's the videos we can make to capture the story of this product? And so I'm just going through dot-com secrets, expert secrets, traffic secrets, applying, applying, applying these little principles that you've been getting forever. We'll launch this company and it'll be live before Funnel Hacking Live. You'll have a chance to see it, but that's what we're doing. That's the game plan. So if you guys go look at that, and really what's nice about this is a lot of times you can buy these things for pennies on the dollar. You don't have to go and actually be the front person, the guru, whatever. You just got to create the different assets, create the pieces, plug them all in there, and that quickly you guys have, just again, it's just lipstick and rouge, is you're putting the paint up on the house. You're plugging in the whatever's on the front end. You're fixing the washer and dryer, where those things are. And all of a sudden, you guys' business is cranking. Again, imagine you buy a business for five grand, and within, by applying two funnels and one traffic strategy or one funnel and two traffic strategies, now it's netting five grand a month. Holy cow! How many times could you do that? Just because you may not be able to like, "Ah, I'm not good on video. I don't know how to create a product. I don't remember frameworks like you could." All the excuses that so many people have when they hear my stuff. It's like, "Cool, then don't." Go buy something and let's rehab it. Let's fix it. Let's flip it. Let's cashflow it. There's so many strategies that are so simple, and all of this is taking the same principles that you've learned, that you understand, that we've been talking about and applying it to these kinds of business. So there you go. Hope that helps. Hope it gives you some ideas. If you're not at Funnel Hacking Live, you're insane. We're going to be going deep in this stuff. It's going to be so much fun. Make sure you're there. I'll be sharing these case studies examples, showing you guys what we're doing, how we're doing it, why we're doing it, and hopefully get you fired up and excited. With that said, I am going to go to flippa.com and go find another business to buy because I need some more case studies for you guys. So appreciate you all. Hope this helps. Hope to get the wheels in your head spinning, and I'll see you guys at Funnel Hacking Live. Go get your tickets, funnelhackinglive.com. Thanks everybody, and we'll see you soon. Bye. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The often overlooked “second funnel” that is invisible to the naked eye… Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today we're going to talk about what I call The Often Overlooked Second Funnel That's Invisible to the Naked Eye. We also call these Follow-Up Funnels, and I'm going to show you guys a really cool case study about how I basically made $16 and 49 cents for every $1 we made inside of our actual funnel. That is the power of Follow-Up Funnels. All right, everybody. So you've probably heard me talk about Follow-Up Funnels before, but I want to tell you just kind of the history behind this and why it's important and what you should do, and a whole bunch of other cool stuff. So when I first got started on online marketing way back in the day, back then everyone used to use email auto responders, which... We still use variations of those today, but I remember when it came out and what would happen is that you had... Someone would subscribe to your email list and then you'd write a pre-written out email sequence. Right? So, what we used to do back in the day when I first got started was I was like, "Sign up for my free five day eCourse." That was the thing everyone did. Everyone had a free five day eCourse. So, someone would opt in and then they give you the email address. Then the Follow-Up Funnel was a five day email course. Day number one, you'd be like, "Here's this first thing, second thing, third thing, fourth thing, fifth thing." And the fifth day, you'd ask them to buy the thing you were trying to sell. That's how this thing first started for me. Then I remember, fast forward, who knows, a year or two later, I was hanging out with a guy named Matt Bacak and Matt told me at the time, I can't remember exactly what it was, but it was something like... He was like, "Yeah, I sat down and wrote out 600 emails. I built an email sequence. So if someone joins my list, they get an email everyday for 600 days, or something." I was like, "Holy cow." That's insane. Imagine, if I just did that once, I write this huge sequence and then put people through it, I'll never have to worry about writing emails again. I'll just add people to my list. That was my thought. So then I started trying to write a huge Follow-Up Funnel like that, a huge email sequence. And I got five days in and I was like, "I want to die. This is really, really hard." So I stopped. And then over the next two decades of my career I tried so many times to start one. I'd start writing one and then I get tired and then I write it and then... I remember one time I wrote it and I put all inside of GetResponse, excuse me, it's Aweber. First I wrote a, I don't know, 20 emails sequence and Aweber and I was going to keep adding to it. And so I built it out. I started adding my list and then Aweber canceled my account. And I was like, "What the dump." I was so mad. And so, then I went over and I rebuilt the entire sequence in Getresponse, but I was going to import my same list. I couldn't do the same emails. I had to rewrite the entire thing. So, I spent like two weeks rewriting that same email sequence then imported my list. They start getting emails. And within like two days, Getresponse canceled my account. I was like, "I'm going nuts." IT's like, "I can't keep doing this." And so I gave up on it again. And then ClickFunnels came out. One of the powerful things about Clickfunnels is when you build out your, your follow-up sequence, you can plug in any SMTP. So that's basically, you can plug in, send grid or you can plug in Amazon S3 emails, you can plug in... And there's a bunch of ones you can plug in. So that way, one of the reasons why we did that, because I had had so many headaches where we had launched an email sequence and our emails software shut us off and he'd go rebuild it. It was a nightmare. Whereas in ClickFunnels, let's say you, you build out your sequence, you upload a list of customers and start getting an email sequence. Let's say, SendGrid shuts you down. You can just plug into different SMTP and the emails keep going and you won't lose a beat. We built that because I was like, "That's how I need for myself because I don't want to write these again." So we did that, the initial email sequence that probably, I don't know, 10 or 12 days. And then that's all I ever got to. And about that time when we launched this in features, Clickfunnels. We need a name for it. Is it an auto-responder sequence? Is it marketing automation? What is the... We need a name. And we kept trying back and forth. And this was before Funnel Hacking Live 2017. We need a name for this, what's it called? And I remember Stephen Larson's here in the office and he was like super stressed out. "I'm trying to figure out this name, I'm trying to figure out this name." And I think he totally went and he prayed in the corner, something. Came back two minutes later, he's like, "What about follow-up funnels?" I was like, "Oh my gosh, that's what this is. Like someone comes in, they give you your email address. They go through normal funnel and then they're added to your follow-up funnel. You follow up with them, you take them through a sequence." And so we built followupfunnels.com and that became the thing and that became the branding. And so ever since 2017 now, so at 21… no not 21 years, four years. Four years, I've been calling them Follow-up Funnels. And so for me, that's what it is, you have your funnels and then your follow-up funnels. And so, it was interesting as I was writing the DotCom Secrets book, actually, prior to that, I was doing a presentation for Funnel Hacking Live 2017. And I actually shared this case study in the DotCom Secrets book. I want to share with you guys right now, is I want to see like how valuable is an actual follow-up funnel. As we started looking at our funnels, how much money they make when somebody comes through a book funnel, right. And looks through that revenue and then said, "Okay, over the next 30 days from our email follow-up funnel, how much money do we make?" We started looking at the math and the numbers and what was crazy in the snapshot I took, this was 2017. I think it was December of 2016. I took the snapshot. And what was crazy is that for every $1 that we made inside of an actual funnel from a book funnel or a webinar funnel, whatever it was, every $1 remains side of a funnel within 30 days made $16 and 49 cents through our followup funnel. What? What the dump, right? If you guys never heard me say that expression before, it's a weird one. I had a friend in college who used to always say, "What the dump" and it's stuck, and it's weird. I don't know, but you're getting it today. So, I was like, "What the dump? That's amazing. That's for every $1 I put in, I get $16 and 49 cents back out. It doesn't make any sense." And it started getting me really excited about the concept of follow up funnels. And so for years I sat down and kept like mapping out, “Okay I’m going to write, I'm going to build...” You know, not like a Matt Bacak, 600 email sequence. I want to build a sequence that goes through all my core offers, my products and something that's kind of... I start looking at that. And so we started sitting down and building one out and every time I tried to build out, I got so big. I was like, "It's going to be 50 emails, 60 emails." And I get stressed out. And I was like... Anyway, I'm sure you guys have gone through that. It's kind of overwhelming and stressful. But finally last year during COVID, I was like, "All right, we're building this thing out. And so we sat down and I mapped out, okay. If someone comes to my world, what did all the offers and the videos and YouTube videos or the podcasts websites, what are the best things that I have. What Would be the sequence I would send somebody through, like if my mom joined my list, what would I want her to have first, and second, and third? And I mapped out the sequence and the sequence ended up being about 60 emails. And then, I went through and I was like, "How am I going to write 60 emails? " That just sounds like pain. I want to die just thinking about it. Right. So I got out Voxer and I would Vox each email. So, I just kind of say it and I had my go and get it all transcribed and send me back the transcripts. Then from there, I'd take these, these transcripts, I could write emails a lot faster. And so, I started doing that and we started building out the sequence and it was like I said, 60 emails going over about a three month period of time. So, it wasn't every day, but sometimes it was three or four days in a row. And we'd take three days off and the back and forth. We built out this really, really cool sequence and it got it done. And then over the last 60 days or so, they slowly added people into the top of this sequence. In fact, as of Friday, we had added 1,734,577 people into this funnel. And we were getting an average overall engagement, 22%. 22% people were opening every single email, which is pretty exciting, but that was 1.7 million. And still have another, I think a million and a half that was being added in over the next, probably next 30 to 45 days being added to the top of the funnel trying to go slowly, so that all of a sudden we don't blow up our email. If you go off and start sending a million emails it just... anyway. So, we've been slowly adding these people in every single day. And as 1.7 million have gone into it, 20% open rate. And now, they're getting a sequence of 60 emails for the next three months and what's been crazy and cool and exciting is that first off, I haven't had to write an email for a long time, which is kind of nice. Second off, I'm watching this now because I have a lot of funnels, so my email sequence links people to different funnels, and then videos and podcasts episodes. So again, somethings are selling somethings are trained. Some things are free. Some things are paid, but just kind of moving them through the logical sequence of offers, of content, of things I want people to get into experience and it connects people to all these different things. And then, how it's fun is I'm watching this now. And now this is done, every single funnel across our business now is lifting. It's really crazy. Our best converting videos are more people where views are popping and they're spiking. And , it really seems like the entire company as a whole is lifting in revenue in engagement and all these things all by placing the thing in place. And it... I've been fighting this for, I mean, honestly, it's been two decades because I finally first want to do this, though I actually finally did it, excuse me. And now it's just insane watching what's happening. And we plugged in, so if someone opts into any of my funnels, anywhere at any given time, they go through that little meet. Usually someone opts in a funnel is a little mini sequence they go through for three or four days and then drops them to this big, major sequence that takes them through all of the offers in chronological order. And so we're adding again about 1000 to 2000 people a day. And actually more than that, excuse me. Pretty close to 3,500 or so, opt-ins a day are being added in his funnel as well. So it keeps growing and growing and growing. And I'm watching this now as the entire ecosystem of ClickFunnels is all rising together because of this, this funnel that's in place. And that's nice because it's 60 days long. Everybody who goes into my world is going to be getting these for the rest of time until I decide to change them or updating or tweaking. And hopefully I never will because I spent so much time and so much effort working on them. And it's just really, really cool. So a couple of things. Number one, if you've been getting a new email sequence from me, pay attention, okay. I think I'm going to eventually put this whole email sequence into a book and call it Followup Funnels. It'd be a really cool product, but right now you guys are getting it for free. So, if not, go opt into any of my forms and eventually you'll start getting it. The first email says something about marketing secrets, like "What's marketing secrets?" And so, that's the first email coming through, but it's powerful, man is blowing our business away. So, I want to share with you guys, cause I want you start thinking, now that you've been creating more things, right? You got some funnels, you got some videos, you got a podcast, you got content, you got things you're putting out there. Think about this. My thought when I was creating this follow-up funnels, "If my mom was to come to my world, what would be the first thing I'd want her to engage with? And then what's the second thing. And the third thing, and the fourth thing, I would look at this, this logical sequence of events. And then from that, that's how I wrote my email sequence. And then you get it all together. And when it's done, man there's this thing that's just literally, hand-holding all your dream customers around the logical sequencing of your content in your offers. And how powerful is that? What would that do for your business if you have that right now? I tell you for us here at ClickFunnels it is... We're already seeing this in this entire lifting across the board and it's powerful. And somebody will come to our world and like they see a webinar and that's all they know. And they see a book and they see something random, but they don't have the context of everything we're doing. So by doing this, puts everybody into a sequence where they're getting step-by-step piece by piece, the stuff we want them to understand in the order, we need them to understand them. And that's really the magic and the power. So anyway, I want to share with you guys, because I'm pumped about it. It's working. If you don't have your own follow-up funnels, now is the time to start building out, creating them, plugging into click funnels, I guess, to do it in the click funnels. So you don't risk getting shut down, which happens in pretty much every other autoresponder sequence I've ever had. In fact, I think in the slides I talked about that, because this is the very first time I told people about our follow-up funnels inside of ClickFunnels, we announced it. So, in the past Aweber shut me down six times, Getresponse four times, Icontact shut me down nine times, two and Fusionsoft two times, ActiveCampaign, two times, MailChimp should be about three times. And that's it. And so I would be careful of using any other outside responders for that reason. We have some crazy updates come in Click funnels in the very near future with our followup funnels and stuff. I think you were going to go crazy for, I can't announce that yet, but anyway, good stuff's coming. So I just want to share with you guys because it matters. It's important. It's something that I fought forever and I wish I had done this 10 years ago and just read it every year, re-tweaked it every single year, whatever that might be, but now it's done. And now it's just insane. So again, from the snapshot December, for every $1 we made inside of our, our core funnel or drive people who made $16 and 49 cents follow-up funnel which is crazy. And what I'm finding now, now I have sequences even better. Those numbers are just going up. And so I want to share with you guys, hope this helps kind of build a follow-up funnel. Inspires you, motivates you and gets you excited to build the often overlooked second funnel, that’s invisible to the Naked Eye. It's called the Follow-up Funnel. With that said, I appreciate you all. And I'll talk to you all again soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Cool things I learned from Stacey and Paul Martino at the Breakthrough in Paradise retreat. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. Today, I want to teach you guys three ways to train your subconscious mind. All right, everybody. I hope you guys are doing amazing? So my wife and I had a really cool experience. Some of you guys who've been to Funnel Hacking Live, or you've been to Two Comma Club Live or been around our community for the last couple of years, you've probably heard me talk more than once about a really unique, really cool couple, and their names are Stacey and Paul Martino. So they came into our world, they had a message, "They were trying to change the world." They had figured out a process to make relationships better, specifically, like the relationships with your significant other. And they are amazing people. In the last, "How many years they've been doing this work," I believe they saved over 10,000 marriages. They have a less than 1% divorce rate of people who've gone through the program and it's amazing. So, as someone who loves my wife and never wants to get divorced and is always trying to figure out ways to make everything better, the personal development nerd inside of me. After I met them, I was like, "I'm going to go through your stuff." I've been their marketing coach on the outside, so I've had the fun opportunity to be like, "Hey, you guys need to launch a podcast, "Hey, you need to write a book." "Hey, you need to do these things." So, some of them are selfish things for me because I wanted them to create a podcast, so I could listen to their podcast. I want them to write a book, so I can read their book. They haven't written a book yet, but they're working on it. Anyway, I'm telling you this is because if you want to go deep with them, they've got an amazing podcast. If you search Stacey and Paul Martino, they have an amazing course, they have a quick start, they have a challenge, they've got a bunch of things, but I went all in, struggled through their content. Collete and I went out to their live event, and then we signed up for the high-end coaching and this year we had a chance last week to go to their Breakthrough in Paradise retreat in Jamaica, which was really, really cool. And it's fun because obviously, what Stacy and Paul do is different from what I do, but there are similarities. They've got their frameworks and they're teaching. They're awesome with what they do. So they've got their frameworks and they teach them. They teach them in their podcasts, teach them on their Quick Start, teach them in their webinars, teach them in their challenges, teach them at their live events, they teach them at their mat… They have these frameworks and they teach them over and over and over again. And what's cool is I had this breakthrough as I was sitting there because I've gone through most of the stuff that they've taught multiple times now and obviously, I'm still trying to figure things out for myself, for my family, for my relationships with other people, my relationship with my wife, with my employees, with just all the things. I'm still trying to learn and figure things out, but what's cool is that I'm at Breakthrough in Paradise. It's like their top-end thing. This is the back of their value-add. And they started the event off, talking about, "There are three ways to train the subconscious mind." And it was interesting because one thing is that they talked about and said, "You know, a lot of stuff we're going to be teaching at this event, it's not new stuff. You've probably heard us talk about this more than once. And the reality is our job is not teaching new stuff all the time. Our job is to give you a level of mastery of the stuff we've been teaching you so far." And she said, "You know, right now, a lot of you guys have cognitively," Hopefully I said that word right. "Have heard us say the things like, 'Oh yeah, I know that. I know that. I know that.' And they started saying, "Our job is not to get this into your interior, your front of your mind, it's to get it into the subconscious mind. The subconscious mind is where this stuff becomes mastery, we're just doing it because you understand it at a deeper level. Not where you're trying to think, 'How does this work? What's the first step?'" And it was just cool, and so, as they started teaching this, they said, "I want to make sure because, if we don't pre-frame this, a lot of you guys are going to discount the stuff like, "Oh, I've heard that before. Oh, I already know that" Oh, where, they said, "The job is not for you to also get a new thing. It's for you to internalize this and to master this so that it becomes something that you have forever." And so that was the pre-frame. And then they start talking about, "Three ways to train your subconscious mind." It was really cool. It's the number one. The first way to train your subconscious mind is through repetition, hearing things over and over and over and over and over again. It's the repetition that's the key, which is why it's so important. The second thing is immersion. It was a five day event in Jamaica. It was a three-day event that we went to earlier. These immersion events where were there for a long time, because if you're just dabbling in, "Oh, I got a little piece here and a little piece here." And you're not getting immersion, you're just dabbling and it's hard to get that into your subconscious mind where it becomes mastery. And then third way is hypnosis. And she said, “At this event, we're not doing hypnosis, but we're doing repetition and immersion, repetition and immersion because we have to let this sink into your subconscious mind." It can't be like, "You and your spouse get in a fight and you're trying to think now, 'What was that thing again? Let's see, okay, they taught us this thing.'" It's like, no, you have to get it into your subconscious min so it becomes habit. So it becomes something that you can use. And as she was saying that, I started thinking about myself, I started thinking about wrestling. And I remember having this aha towards the end of my high school career. I wrestled in high school and in college. But it was toward the end of my high school year. And I was someone who became obsessed or stressed with wrestling. So I was wrestling during practice, before practice, after practice, I was doing summer camps. I was like, as much as I could, I was wrestling. And I remember, because you'd go and try and learn the new move, the new move, the new move, or, they teach you the same move and help you do it over and over again. And I remember I found this to be true. I would drill a move a hundred times in practice, but it wasn't my move until I hit it once in an actual match. I remember having that, epiphany, "I can train this thing a hundred times until I've actually hit it in the match where it's... Those who have ever competed at any high level when you're competing, it's not your conscious mind out there where you think, "Okay, what's the first thing, I'm going to shoot here. I'm going to grab his arm here. When I step on the mat and I shake their hand, it's weird that everything disappears and you just go, it's your subconscious mind taking over. So it's like all these things you've been drilling over and over and over again. So it's not me consciously, "Oh, I learned, a single leg, there's a single, I should go grab it." At that point, it's gone. Like I missed it. The mastery comes back, feeling it, "When this person moves this way, this is where my body needs to go and how I need to shift, and the angle I need to take." and so I'm drilling it over and over and over like a hundred times drilling it, you start feeling it. But then it wasn't until I hit it in a match. As soon as I hit a once in a match and not I tried in the match and I missed it, it was if I hit it once in a match and I executed on it, my body would remember that. I remember telling some of my teammates that, during my senior year, this move I would drilling it until I hit it in a match. It's not mine. And they, they didn't understand that. I said, "Yeah, like I can drill this a thousand times. But until I've, until I've used it in a match, like, I don't know how to explain that, but not mine." I know I understand this, it's because it was deeper than just the consciously me knowing how to do the move, it was subconscious where my could just hit it. And so what I would do is I would go out in my matches where I knew I was wrestling someone who was easy, someone I knew what I was going to beat. My job was not to do the moves that already knew. The job is I have to hit the moves I've been learning. The ones that aren't in my subconscious mind yet. Once I'm trying to train to get back there so I can feel it and it just comes up. Those are the ones I need to hit during my easy matches. So, that way they become my moves. Because, it's not my move until I've executed it at least once in a live match. And so I would do that say, "Okay, this week I've been drilling this, this, and this. So during this match, I'm not trying to do the moves I know, I'm going to be doing these new moves because I need to execute it live in a match. Because then it's in my subconscious mind and I've mastered it. And now I can bring that out, whatever I need to. But until then, it's not mine. It's just something that I've taught my head that I know how this thing works. You think about that as you get better and better at any kind of sport or any kind of thing, like in wrestling, my moves, the ones I'm amazing at, I can still to the is day hit them perfectly like I've done some so many times. I don't have to think, "Where must I hips go? Where's the pressure?" It's just my body. So, it's so deep in my subconscious mind and it's there and I've got it. And how that happened, repetition, repetition, repetition, number one, immersion, immersion, immersion. Doing wrestling camps, long things and lots of practices like immersing yourself so it becomes a part of mastery. And actually used to do some hypnosis as well to help master those things. So those were the three ways to train subconscious mind, repetition, emerging, hypnosis. Okay. And so a couple of things that Stacy and Paul taught that was really, really cool. The first question was, "How many repetitions do you think it takes to reprogram? We don't know it's going to take a lot. It's not just you hearing something once. If you're a second timer, third timer, fourth timer. For wrestling, I would drill the drill, hundreds of times of repetition before it was reprogrammed and into my conscious mind. In fact, it wasn't, I actually live in a, in a, an experience where, it became my own move. Okay. So how many repetitions do you need to reprogram your subconscious mind? A lot. Okay. That's why it's like this event that we're going to teach the same things I've been teaching over and over, over. And because the repetition will try and get this into your subconscious mind so you can use it. So it becomes your move. It becomes your default. So instead of going to the trigger and you normally go to, this is the new trigger that comes up, Number two, things she said that was really cool. She said, "Resistance, means it's not yet wired into your nervous system." So if you hear something in your defaults like, "I've already heard this before." Boom, that is the tell-tale sign that you have not mastered it yet. Okay, because if you resist it, it means you conscious mind says, "I know this, give me the next thing." Okay. So if you're resisting it, like, "I already know this, I've heard this before. If you're resisting, it means you're not yet wired into your nervous system. That's like the tell-tale sign. Okay. If like, "Is this my nervous system? No." Okay. If you're resisting it, you're like, "I've heard this before," it means it's not in your subconscious mind. Okay, that leaves number three. Number three is when it is in your subconscious mind, and when he is in your subconscious mind, you'll actually be excited to hear the repetition. Can you guys benefit if you hear me tell the story for the 18th time and you are like, "Oh, this is annoying." And when you hear it and don't say anything, that means you're excited. That means it's in your subconscious mind. So, that's how you know. Okay. So as you're learning something, number one, the repetition is important. Number two, if you're like, I've heard this before. It means it is not in your subconscious mind is a tell-tale sign. If you're like, "This is awesome." I've heard this before." You start looking at it differently, you start seeing different intricacies, start getting to a deeper and deeper level, then you notice in your subconscious mind, okay. Those are the things. And one thing that Stacy said over and over and over again and said, "Be careful of what you're so certain with." Be careful, "I already know this, I already know this." Be careful what you're so certain with. Because if you think you already know it, you probably don't. At Least you don't know it to the level you need to, to have actual mastery. Okay. And so, as they were telling this, I was just so fascinated. I'm thinking about it. I start thinking about from my wrestling background, like, "Oh my gosh, this is so true." Let's start thinking about it for my business. If you look at what I do, I have handful of frameworks that I've been teaching for almost two decades now, which is crazy, and some of you guys have come into my world and you've read the DotCom Secrets book and you learn them. Then you read the Expert Secrets book and then the Traffic Secrets book, then you listened to 400 episodes of my podcast, and then you did the 5 Day Lead Challenge and you did The One Funnel Away Challenge and the Two Comma Club Live, then the Funnel Hacking Live One, and number two and number three and then you keep experiencing this again and I keep hearing these things over and over and over again. That's good. That's the key to mastery. It's the key to understanding these things. Okay. I promise you as many times you guys have heard me talk about these things, I've said them 10 times more than that. Which helps me master it. I've done it a hundred times more than that before I ever shared it and so these are the keys to mastery. And so if any, you guys are in a spot like, 'Oh, I've heard this before. Oh, I've done this before. Oh, I already know these things." You're at this, this level where it's in your conscious mind, but it's not mastery. It's not your subconscious mind. Okay. Cause resistance means it's not yet wired into your nervous system. You step back, and when you get the point where it becomes part of you, like that becomes your move where literally right now, if I'm going to launch a book, I don't think about it consciously. I don't think, "Oh, what's a book photo going to look like?" I've done it so many times I've mastered it. I can sit down. I can teach a two day event on a book, funnel without any notes, any preparation, anything because I know it. I understand I have perfect mastery of it, and that's the key. One thing they said at the end, which was kind of cool, "When you finished with this work, you're not finished until you become the solution. So in their relationship program, when you, the point where your relationships are perfect, where you, you become the person that you're trying to be, where, they asked you a question, you get a, you get into an argument or a fight or something triggers where your default is, the right reaction. That's when you're finished. That's when you become the solution. Right. In marketing. When you can look at any situation, you know exactly what to do, then you become the solution. That's the key. So you're doing this until you've gotten mastery. I thought it was such a cool pre-frame for their event. And the more I thought about it, the more I've seen that in my life with wrestling, with business, with things that I've achieved mastery in. It's so true. Right. I think about Tony Robbins, like I've been to Tony Robbins events lot. I've been to UPW a ton of times and I think the second UPW, I do remember, I've heard this, I've heard this before, which is funny. And then I went to a third time, a fourth time and fifth time took my kids to it. And the more times I hear it, the more I'm like, okay, cool. This is always talking about this. And I'm like looking for different angles and for ways to understand it. And if a ways to like, "How do I apply this to my life? How do I make this? So that it's my move, right? Because until it's your move, it's just something that you practiced. Okay. And practice is good, but that doesn't make mastery. Mastery comes from repetition, immersion and or hypnosis. It's doing it so many times now it becomes your move. And when it's your move, then you own it. Now you've become the person you need to be. You become the solution. And so, anyway, I hope that pre-frame helps and I hope it gives you some purpose now, "Ok, I'm going to go deep on Russell stuff and I'm going to really study everyday that's not my goal, but, but for some of you guys, that's what it is, you constantly understand marketing, but you don't understand it at a level of mastery, which is why you're still struggling. So keep going through it, repetition immersion. If you're not going to Funnel Hacking live yet, you're insane. If you haven't been to the Two Comma Club Live Virtual Event yet, you're insane. Like giving them the One Funnel Away Challenge the new one, you're insane. Keep doing it until you really understand that you've mastered it. And then that's when you become the solution. You'll know because now you're having success. Right. And the relationship game, like when, when every situation I get in my subconscious mind knows the right way to do it, when I've mastered the, frameworks and mastered the processes where I don't have to think about it consciously, It just subconsciously happens. That's when I can stop doing the work. That's when I become who I need to be. Right. The same, thing's true in your business. And so I hope that helps again. It helped me in my wrestling and I wish I would understood these things when I first started wrestling. But by my senior year, I was, I was realizing I was, I was seeing that I was seeing the man, I can practice the practice, but it's not my move until I've hit it subconsciously in the live match. And so let me force situations. I have to do it subconsciously. Let me get, in the beginning situations where I need to use this thing where I'm not using my conscious mind, but I'd have to hit it subconsciously. That's when it became my own. And so, anyway, I hope it helps you guys. I appreciate you all. Thank you so much for listing and a couple of things. Number one is again, become immersed in my world. If you haven't yet, it's time. Start with the One Funnel Away Challenge. From there, coming to Comma Club Live Virtual Event, from there come to Funnel Hacking Live like immerse yourself. And if you want to learn more about how to use this stuff in relationships, go check out Stacy and Paul Martino, relationshipdevelopment.org is their site and I would just jump into podcasts and start immersing yourself. You'll love them, they're amazing people. Yeah, help me turn in my life. I think they can help you as well, but that's it guys, appreciate you all. And I'll talk to you all on the next episode. 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Are you getting offended by people in your life? If so, listen to this now! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today I've got a rant, and the rant is I'm going to teach you guys the secret to not being offended. All right, so good morning. Today started off with two people being offended because I sent them a gift. These people in my High End Coaching program, who I send them a gift to help them in their journey, in their life, and they were offended. So offended in fact, they went and they posted it online at how offended they were about the gift that I sent them for free. So that's how the morning started out, and then ... I'm not going to give details. There are other things in this world around us that are happening. And everyone's getting offended about the stupidest things almost all the time, and it is driving me nuts. And so I wanted to teach you guys a secret. This is the secret about how to not get offended. I don't get offended very often. In fact, it's very, very rare that I do. And I can tell you this, the quality of life is a bajillion times better because I don't get offended at every little thing that comes across my plate. I have people who I completely strongly, strongly, strongly disagree with, and guess what? They can post their thoughts, their beliefs, I don't get offended. It's the weirdest thing. And so I'm going to teach you guys a secret. Do you guys want the secret? Because this will change the quality of your life. Now some of you guys are going to be offended I'm even telling you about this. For those of you who are getting offended right now or will be offended momentarily, that is a sign that you need this more than anybody else. And so, yeah, so here we go. This is the secret to not getting offended. You have to assume that even if people disagree if you, even if what they believe is not something that you believe in. Even if they say something that you strongly ... You hear it or you see it or you read it, it makes you sick to your stomach and making you upset, whatever, frustrated. The secret is to understand that people all act out of good intentions. What? "There's no way, this person's evil." No, people act out of good intentions. This is the big secret, this is the big aha that most people want to understand. People aren't going out there trying to be horrible people, they're doing it out of good intentions. The first time I heard this epiphany, this aha, the first time I realized this to be true, I was actually at a Tony Robbins event. And Tony talked about this. He said, he said something along the lines of that people act out of good intentions, even if what they're doing is evil. And I was like, "What does that even mean?" And he said, he was telling the story about UPW, which is his Unleash the Power Within event. He said that, "I was sitting in this event and we're talking about tensions." He said, "I had a workshop and people writing their notes down." And he said that, 'After you write your notes, you share it with your partner." And apparently some guy saw his partner's notes, and in his notes he talked about the fact that he was planning on killing his wife, his kids, and then himself. And this guy starts freaking out. He goes and finds one of the ushers, like, "Oh, my partner here is about to do something really bad. You should do something." And so they went and told Tony. And so Tony called the guy up, "Hey, so-and-so, come up on stage." And he's like, "Tell us what's going on?" And the guy was just like, "Well, my plans are after this, then I'm going to go home and I'm going to kill my wife and my kids and then myself." And everyone in the audience is like, "Aah," super offended. "This person is evil. This person is the most horrible person on this planet." All these things. And that would be most of our gut instinct, is this, "Aah." And Tony starts working the guy and starts talking through things with him and say, "Well, why are you doing this? What's the purpose? You're not just doing it to be a horrible person, why?" And when it came down to the guy came back and was like, "My father left when I was young. And it ruined my life. These are, all the things happened because my father left me." And he said, "I am miserable. And I want to leave, I want to leave this earth. But I know that if I leave this earth it's going to destroy the life of my wife and my kids, I love them so much. I don't want them to go through the pain that I went through. And so because of that, this is why I'm going to do this thing." And obviously, yes, it is messed up. It's like, there's a lot of psychological help that needs to happen there. I'm not downplaying that at all, but the person was acting out of good intentions. They weren't going and trying to be this horrible person, they were trying to act out of good intentions. And it's interesting, when I see people post something that I don't agree with, I don't try to get the initial visceral response, like, "Aah, that person is evil. I'm offended. Let me tell them why they're evil in the comments down below." Instead, I look at it, I'm like, "Man, I don't agree with that. But what's their intentions? Is it good?" And I think about it and I'm like, "Huh, I strongly disagree with what they're saying and why they're saying it." But typically, almost every time I've tried to do this exercise, I'm like, "Man, the reason why they're doing that is actually out of good intentions." They're doing it because they believe this, they're doing it because of this. And it's interesting as I step back and I stop and I say, "What are their intentions? Is there any possible way they have good intentions with this thing that they're posting? This thing that they're saying, this thing that they did, the thing they experienced, the thing ... The gift that they sent me in the mail." And then I started thinking for a second, "Is there any possible way that this person had good intentions? And what would that look like? Well, what's the lens I'd have to look through for me to post that?" And I can look at it and say, "Man, I completely disagree with that person. I think they're wrong, I don't agree with anything, but I can see the reason why they did it is because of this. This is their intentions and their intentions were pure." And I believe, maybe I'm just naive. I don't know, maybe I am. But I think that all humans who are on this planet here, they act out of good intentions. And sometimes intentions are messed up, sometimes a psychological damage and they're just like ... There's all sorts of things that happen, but I think that all the decisions that all of us make, there are good intentions. And so because of that, I can look at somebody who does something and not be offended. I can look at somebody who believes different than me, and I can love them. I can look at somebody who I think is insane because of their beliefs, their thoughts, their posts, their gifts, their whatever. And I can still love them because I'm like, "Man, they're acting on a good intention. This is what they think is best and that's why they're doing it." And so that's the secret, you guys. That's the secret not being offended. And I promise you, if you start looking at that lens differently, you're going to start loving people that you see, people who ... Christ talked about you should love your enemies, this is how you do it. You understand, "Man, this person may be my enemy, but they're doing it because they think this is right. They have good intentions. They're trying to help people in a way that I completely disagree with, yet I can still love them because they're doing out of good intentions." There's a quote I posted today on my Facebook wall, my personal wall, it said ... It's from Brigham Young, it says, "He who takes offense when offense is not intended is a fool, but he who takes offense when offense is intended is a greater fool." And so I want you guys to remember that, don't take offense. First off, if someone does something and they're not trying to offend you and you take offense to that, you're a fool. You're an idiot. That's on you, not on them. And then if they do, if they're trying to offend you and you take offense, then you're a greater fool. So I thought that was really powerful. So anyway, I wanted to share with you guys today because there's too much of this in the world today. Everyone's getting offended and it's ridiculous. Especially when somebody sends you a gift in the mail, or especially when somebody posts something about their beliefs, because they're trying to help people in the way that they think is right. I don't care if you hate them, if you disagree with them, if you think what they're doing is evil, bad, we need to love them. They're doing it out of good intentions. So instead, try to help them align their intentions if they, what can you do ... Instead of going in the comments and try and destroy this person and cancel them because they did something that you disagree with, what if you came back and say, "Man, how can I actually help serve this person? They're in good attention, but I think that they're steered the wrong direction." andm this intervention that Tony went through, he didn't go and get the guy locked up. It's like, "Man, I should help this person realign their understanding. If I can shift their intentions to something more positive, maybe this outcome won't be as bad as they think." And you do that not by trying to force somebody, not by trying to make them to change, you do it through inspiration. Who are you becoming? I just went to Stacey and Paul Martino's event, and they talk a lot about this concept. They call it transformation through inspiration. If you wanted to move somebody, being offended and trying to cancel them will not get them to move. It'll just make them hate you more. Instead, live your life in a way that spires people, that transforms people to make them want to think like you think. That's the key, that's the big secret. You look about the greatest teacher of all, Jesus Christ, when he came to this earth. He was not coming down trying to force people to follow him. No, he said, "I'm going to set an example. And if you love me, keep my commandments. And this is what I'm going to do." And he showed these different things. And man, we looked at him and said, "This guy, I love him, I respect him. I'm going to change my beliefs because I'm inspired by him and what he did." And that's the key, inspiration through transformation. So instead of trying to be offended, live your life in a way that gets people inspired. So that when they're struggling and they're realizing, "Man, this blueprint, this thing that I believe this, my intentions are wrong. Who do I trust? Who do I listen to?" It's like, "Oh, the person that was yelling in the comments, I'm going to trust their opinion." No, no, no. That's not what they do. They step back and they say, "Hum, well, that person, that Russell's really cool to me all the time. Even when he disagrees with me. Man, he's got something figured out. Maybe I'll listen to him. Maybe I'll ... What does he believe? What's he doing?" And that's how you get people, that's how you cause change. Not the other way around. So quit being offended, is number one. Okay. Number two, the secrets to not being offended is understanding that people are all acting out of good intentions. I honestly believe that. Number three, if you take offense when offense is not intended, you're a fool. If you take offense when offense is intended, you're an even greater fool. And number four, if you want to change people's lives, literally it's transformation through inspiration. Not by being offended and trying to cancel, I mean, yelling in the comments. So there you go you guys. If I ever send you a gift, even if you hate it, just throw it away. It's cool, I was trying to do something cool. I thought it was helping you. And if you're offended somehow, that's on you, not on me. So that's that. Appreciate you guys, hope you are all enjoying the day. Go out there, love somebody you disagree with. Live life in a way that transforms, inspires people, and be good to people. That said, appreciate you all and I'll talk to you soon. Bye, everybody. 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How to find the secret things you didn’t even know you were looking for. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up everybody, this is Russell Brunson, welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Hope you guys are pumped and excited for today, because I am. The sun's up, it's beautiful. I just got out of the dentist and wanted to hang out with my friends. All right everybody. I hope that you guys are all been amazing. I'm working on so many fun things right now that I'm not even sure what to share first or second or third or where to go or what to do. But I wanted to just jump in today because I had an interesting conversation yesterday with Mr. Steve Larson, who's one of my favorite people, not only inside the ClickFunnels community, but just in the world. He's super cool. And I appreciate, I was hanging out with him, talking to him and it's been fun. Those who don't know Steve, he came into my world as my funnel builder for a couple of years and then went off on his own. It's been fun watching him build his movement and his tribe. But he was there, like when I was writing the Expert Secrets book. It's fun because when I decided to take on a project, to start writing, and you go through this phase of brainstorming and searching and researching and finding things out and discovery and like, so he was there during the whole process. Literally sitting next to me during most of it, which was pretty cool. I don't know. A pretty cool opportunity. He tells me stories about a lot. Like, remember when we were doing that and you were coming up with this and like... It's kind of fun because yesterday he messaged me and he's like, "Hey, I'm looking for a coach in this area of my life, who would you recommend? Like, what should I do?" And I kind of stopped for a second. And I was like, "You know what? There's a lot of good people. And I was recommending a few people and stuff like that. But I came back and I was like, "You know what?" Me and him have talked about this a lot, but I was like, "Honestly, the thing that's going to get your learning and your understanding of the next level more than anything is probably not the next coach, as much as you sitting down and actually writing a book. This is not a podcast about writing a book. I did one of those recently, but I wanted to talk about this because there's so many people that want to become an expert. They want to write a book. They want to make courses. They want to make podcasts. Things like that, right? We talk about the value and the importance of publishing. If you've been around me for any amount of time, you know I'm such a big believer in everybody needs to be publishing daily. Like, what are you publishing? Like pick a podcast and do it daily, or write a blog post daily, or do YouTube or Facebook live. It doesn't even matter. The goal though, is as you start doing that, you start finding your voice, right? If you've read the Expert Secrets book, I talk about actually... excuse me, the Traffic Secrets book. I talk about the two reasons why you need to publish daily. It's because number one, it's going to help you to find your voice. Number two, it's going to help your audience to find you. I'm a big believer in that, but there's something magical about actually writing a book. That's been interesting. I'm writing my fourth book right now, and I'm not telling details about it yet, but I'm writing it and it's just been so fun. I kind of forgot about this process. Like, as you start writing... because you to take this concept and break it down. How do you make it simple? How do you make it interesting? What are the case studies and the use cases? Like have other people talked about this already? I want to make sure I'm not saying the same thing other people have said. You get in this like research phase. You're studying and you're learning and trying to figure things out. And by going through that process, it's insane the insights you start getting. I almost feel like God, or whoever you want to believe, I obviously believe it's God, but he's like, "If you're willing to go on this journey, I'm going to start making these insights clear." It's the same reason why Tony Robbins always talks about he doesn't want people dabbling he wants you to go through immersion. Where you're going through a four day event, or you're reading a book or you're doing these things, because immersion, you start connecting these dots you don't see normally. All I can say is that the process of writing a book for me, I started seeing patterns and things line up that I've never seen it in any other situation, even publishing daily. There's something about it where these patterns, these ideas, and these things start showing up. It's funny because last year I wrote the Traffic Secrets book. Man, maybe two years ago. Dang it. Anyway, whenever it was. Then after I got done, I went back and I rewrote the Expert Secrets and the Dotcom Secrets book for our hardbound versions, you know? It was interesting, as I was going through, I'm reading the Expert Secrets book, and I'm doing the editing, I'm just like, "Where did some of this stuff come from?" Not that I'm like patting myself on the back. Some of this stuff's amazing. I don't know where I... Like, how did I come up with this? I don't remember the process. It's going back to like when Steve and I were sitting there in that room in that office writing the book. It was like brainstorming and researching and thinking and looking at patterns. And all of a sudden it's like, because I'm deep in this like treasure hunt trying to find the piece of gold, it's like the pattern shows up and it's like, Oh my gosh, here it is. It's like this gift is just handed to you on a silver platter. I feel like that's happening right now in this book, because I'm going through it, I'm discovering and finding these things I never have seen before, which is just so interesting. It comes down to too, honestly, it is immersion. It's immersion in different areas. It's immersion in your learning and immersion in your content creation, immersion in your product development. If you're creating a course, if you dive deep into it, start doing this stuff, again, hopefully, if you look deep, if you start trying to figure and really learn the stuff, these insights will start popping out. If you're going and you're studying somebody, instead of just like, "Oh, I'm going to listen to a podcast once a week." Or, "I'm going to go read a chapter every few days." But you go to true immersion where you're like, "Okay, I'm going to binge read this book in a day." Or, "I'm going to go to a three-day event or five-day event or whatever." But you started going through immersion. You start seeing things in a different ... I don't know how to explain it more than these patterns start appearing that you don't see when it's disjointed. I had something similar happen. This is kind of more on a spiritual side, but, a lot of you guys know I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Some people nickname us the Mormons. Typically, what I would do, is read a chapter in my scriptures every single day, right? Which is awesome. You get different insights that are really, really useful and helpful. Then one day I bought a first edition Book of Mormon, which is super rare and kind of a cool special thing for me. So I bought this book and I was like, I want read this entire book. And there's a guy, back in the days, and he's Parley P. Pratt and he read the entire Book of Mormon in a day, back in the 1800s or something. So I found out when his birthday was, and I took the day off of work and I'm going to read this entire book in a day. It's a big book and it's not light reading. And I spent 18 hours reading and I got about halfway through. So I don't know how that dude did it in a day. But, anyway, regardless, I spent 18 hours reading this book and I got super deep into it. It was very similar. I had these breakthroughs and these patterns, these things showing up that I'd never seen before. Because I had seen things like in isolation, of a chapter, a verse or whatever, but when you read it, it's 300 pages at once, you start seeing the patterns starting to appear. Anyway, I wanted to share with you because I want you thinking about that. Like you're learning, your creation, is doing it in a state of immersion because these patterns start showing up. So anyway, I hope it helps. I just got home from the dentist. I'm going to go have some food real quick and head in the office and get back to writing. So with that said, I want to challenge you guys. Immersion. Either studying or learning or creating or whatever, block out time and go deep and start looking at the patterns and the things that appear because it's a gift. It's amazing. You'll find things you weren't expecting. It's pretty, pretty special. So with that said, appreciate you guys. Have an amazing day and I'll talk to you all again soon. Bye everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Something my wife and I have been testing that has changed our relationship, and will change yours too. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- Hey everybody, this is Russell. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I got a really cool hack for your language. It's going to change your entire life. All right. So this one's simple. This is probably four years or five years ago, back in the very beginning of my podcasting days, back before Marketing Secrets, back when it was the Marketing in Your Car podcast, for my OGs. You guys remember that? I shared something that I was doing with my kids that was really fun. And I talked about how, when you meet most people, when you go to the grocery store or something like that, "Hey, how's it going?" They're like "Good." Or you see someone at the airport, "Hey, how's it going?" "Good." You start traveling, "How are you doing today?" "Good." Everybody's like, "Good, good." And good is boring. Good is the enemy to great, right? And so I started teaching my kids. I was like, "Hey, when somebody asks you, 'How are you doing?' Instead of saying 'Good,' say, 'I'm awesome.'" I think just try that. So my kids started doing it, I started doing it. I remember, I had to be at the airport at six in the morning, and the cashier when you're buying your gum and your water's like, "How are you doing today?" Because they have to ask that. Ad you're like, "Doing awesome." And they're like, "Oh, I wasn't expecting that." And it just shifts the person you're talking to every single time. It was like so simple, so dumb, but for the last four or five years, and I'm not perfect at this, but I always try. When someone asks how I'm doing, I never say "Good." All right? Instead I say, "I'm doing awesome." And it just kind of catches them. Even if I'm not doing good. I'm like, "Oh, I'm doing awesome." And then they're like, "Oh." and it shifts them. And it shifts you. So that's a little language hack. Right? So there's little things like that, that I'm always looking for, that are super dumb and super easy. And I found one the other day. Someone posted on Instagram, I'm not sure who it was. I think it was Lisa Bilyeu, but I'm not positive. So I'm going to give her credit, but it may not have been. But what she said, I think, or whoever it was, I think it's her. But the person who said it said, "Next time, instead of saying, 'I'm sorry,' shift it to, 'Thank you.'" And I was like, what? And then she gave an example. She said, for example, let's say you're running late and you run out to the car. Instead of saying, "Oh, I'm so sorry. I'm late," instead say, "Hey, thank you so much for waiting for me." Little shift. Now I want to show you how huge this actually is. Okay? When you say, "Oh, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry." What does that do to you? It brings guilt upon you, then the person feels badly. "Oh, don't feel guilty. No, it's totally fine, la la la." And it shifts this whole conversation, where everything's based on guilt and remorse and feeling bad about something. And it just ruins the whole thing. Where you shift it to say, "Oh my gosh, thank you so much for waiting for me," suddenly the person's like, "Oh, you're welcome." And you just gave gratitude to that person. That person received gratitude. Like, "Oh, no worries. It's totally cool." And all of a sudden, it shifts the entire dynamic, the feeling, the energy, everything shifts after that. Now this has been a fun one for me because my amazing wife who I love so much, she definitely... Guilt drives her a lot of times. And so she says, "I'm sorry," everything, over and over and over again. And so I've been playing this with her just to see what happens. And so she had to leave for a couple of days and I had to run the kids and everything, and it was crazy, hectic, and stressful, and hard. But as her husband and as the man, I'm like owning it. Right? I'm doing it. I'm doing all the things. I'm doing the hard work. And I'm feeling really, really good about it. And she called me, she was like, "Oh, I'm so sorry that you're doing all this." And I'm like, "Don't feel sorry. I don't want you to feel sorry for me. I'm freaking stepping up. I'm your man. I want you to be thankful for this." And so I told her, I said, "Hey, instead of saying, sorry, say thank you." That makes me feel better about it. I don't want to feel like, man, like I'm this stranger. Like she feels sorry, and now there's guilt. She feels guilty, then I feel guilty that she feels guilty. It just ruins the whole experience, versus her saying, "Thank you." And so for the last week and a half, two weeks, she's been doing this. Instead of every time she's slips and catches yourself like, "Oh, I'm so sorry. Oh wait, thank you so much for doing that for me. Oh, thank you for taking care of the kids. Thank you for stepping up. Thank you for staying late. Thank you for coming home early. Thank you for..." And just shifting it from "I'm sorry," to "Thank you." And I cannot tell you the shift in my energy and her energy and the experience together. It is night and day. For me, as the receiver of that, has been amazing. And so I want to share that little hack with you because I promise you, for some of you guys, this will change your life. This will change your relationships. Don't say, "I'm sorry," anymore. Unless you do something stupid, go say sorry. You should be apologizing, but for every situation that's like, you're late, you're on time, someone's doing a favor for you, whatever. Shift it from "I'm sorry," to "Thank you." And that little tiny shift, as little as it seems, it changes the energy of the moment, changes the person's attitude, changes your attitude, makes them feel gratitude, it makes you feel gratitude. It makes them feel gratitude and everything good will come from that. And so, anyway, I wanted to share it with you guys today because it's exciting for me. And hopefully it'll be an exciting tool for you as well. So that said, you got two tools now. Number one, "How are you doing today?" "Doing awesome." Number two, "Oh, thank you so much for waiting for me. I appreciate that." Those two little shifts will change everything. All right. Have fun with them. Try it out. Let me know how it goes. I appreciate you all. Thank you guys for listening. Did you notice that? I said, "Thank you." If I had said, "I'm so sorry I wasted your time today. I'm so sorry that you had to take four minutes to listen to this today." It would have been different, right? So thank you. Thank you for listening. I appreciate you taking the time today. Hopefully gave you value. You guys give me value by listening and I'm grateful for that. Anyway, that said, appreciate you guys. Hope you enjoy this episode and we'll talk to you guys all soon. All right. Bye, everybody. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

If you're struggling with difficult times, as most of us are; this is one tool I learned from Tony that's been helping me a ton. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ---Transcript--- What's up, everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to The Marketing Secrets podcast. Today, I want to go a little Tony Robbins on you if you're okay with that. We've been dealing with some hard things and something I learned from Tony about, man, eight or nine years ago has helped me and I want to share with you guys as well. All right. So I'm not going to go to specifics, but I think everybody, especially in the last year, has gone through hard things, challenges, things that are frustrating. Things don't make sense. Things make you angry, things that make you sad. And it's hard. Anyway, I think for the most part, most of the stuff I talk about is the fun stuff and the exciting things. And I think that maybe the positives and the negatives of social media and all the things we do is that usually we share a highlight reel, which hopefully inspires people and things like that. But there's also the other side we don't talk about as often, but it's there. And we've had a lot of, I think like everybody, a lot of ups and downs, especially over the last 12 months or so, but we recently had one that's been the toughest by far. Again, I'm not going to talk about the details at all, but as my family, I've been kind of navigating this and going through it. The one thing that keeps coming back to me is it's interesting. It's this thing that I learned from Tony Robbins very first time I went to UPW. So I didn't know how long ago it was. It was over 10, maybe 12, probably 12 years ago. Dang. Anyway, so that the time I was at UPW was actually, it was right after Jim Rowan had just passed away, which was interesting. And Jim Rowan was Tony Robbins' first mentor and he passed away and the event was like three days later. And so we're at this event and of course, Tony starts talking about his mentor who just passed away. And he talks about how obviously how sad it was for them. And then he started talking about this concept and he expounded on it at other events I went to. He talked about the meaning that we attach to things. And it was interesting because so many of us experienced the same things, right. But the meaning that we attach to things is how we end up feeling and how we cope with things. Right? And so, for example, he said, when Jim Rowan first passed away, his first year, the first initial news and your mind automatically attaches a meaning to it, right? Here's the news, boom, here's the meaning and the whatever meaning is attached to it, that's how you feel about situations. He said, by default, the meaning he got was like, "Oh my gosh, my mentor died. This is so sad. Like I wish I could have talked to him. I wish..." And all these things. Right. And this was meaning is that this thing is so sad and so hard. And it's because of it, it was hard. He's like, for the first couple of days, I struggled, I was really struggling, but he's like, as I stopped and I was able to sit back, I started noticing like, what was the meaning that I put to this? Like the, his death and like the meeting was man, I wasn't ready for him to go. You know, it was too early. all these things like, that was the meeting that my, that my brain by default attaches. And because I was able to step away and become conscious of meaning that attached. I was able to think about well, what meaning would I like to attach to this event? I can change the meaning. And so he sat back and he said, "I'm going to change the meaning." And instead of saying, "This is such a horrible thing. I'm like going to change the meaning. It means like, man, I'm so grateful for the time I had with him. I'm so grateful things I learned from him, such an amazing man." And he lived such a great life, like how amazing it was. And so he shifted the meeting. "When I shifted the meaning, like the feeling was different. And I went from being sad to being like, man, this is such a, I was so grateful for this person." And again this is just a tiny little shift, but so powerful. And as I've been experiencing dealing with things over the last little while, I've been trying to be more conscious of what things in my brain... What's the meaning that my brain attaches by default when an experience happens. And typically when it's a sad or a tragic or a hard experience, your brain defaults to like the worst thing, right. Boom, with slapping that label on, slapping that meaning. And if you can learn ow, to step back from the initial, what your brain quickly labels something on, you can shift things, right? Like for example, someone walks up to you and they slap you in the face. Like the meeting is going to attach like this person just slapped me. I'm going to slap them back and boom. And all of a sudden, like the scuffle happens, right. But if this is a slap in the face, you stop, you like, what's the meaning? Why did they do that? What's the purpose of being like, "Oh my gosh, the person slapped me because they thought that... Whatever." And it's like, you come back. No, no, wait, let me explain and you can diffuse the situation. You can change it by shifting the meaning that you're attaching to it. And something that Tony talked about later, it was a date with destiny, he talked about becoming a master meaning maker. So what's the meaning you're going to attach, like making the meaning. And so you start dissociating yourself from like the thing that your brain immediately attaches and saying, "Okay, experience happens. It's stopping." What's the meaning that you choose to apply to this situation, this event that just happened. Right? And now you apply different meaning. And it's like, "Oh." And I know for me, like man, especially social media and all social media triggers all of us, right. Where you see something, you see somebody post something and all the triggers start happening and you start firing your brain. You want to like, duh, unleash your wrath upon them in the comments. And what I've been trying to do really quickly is stop and looking and saying, "Okay, I'm going to assume that this person has really good intentions when they're posting. I may not agree with it but I do agree that most people do things out of good intentions, even if I feel they're misguided or whatever, but they have good intentions." Right? I believe politically, people on the left and the right and in the middle and all sorts of all that they say, everyone's acting out of good intentions. They're all doing what they think is right. Even though I think some people are completely wrong, it doesn't matter. They think I'm completely wrong. Right. And so it's like when they post something, I have the meaning of like, "Oh, they're evil, they're bad." Like that's the initial default that has come back saying, "Wait, wait." Instead, what if I attach the meaning that person has the good intentions. And I may not agree with them, but they're doing the best based on what they think is right. Right. And then we see, it's like how people parent, how people vote, how people, all these things. And it's tough because we want to fight. We want to be right. What I've been trying to do a step back and not default comment, not default fight back, but instead come back, say, okay, the meaning attached to that person's comment, it's not that they're dumb or they're wrong or they're whatever. It's just like, that person thinks that they're doing what's best for them. They have good intentions. I love them for the fact that they're doing their best based on the knowledge they have. And it's hard. I'm going to tell you, it's hard. I'm sure all you guys struggle with that. But for me, it's what I'm trying to do for a lot of reasons. One is it's keeping my sanity on somethings. Number two, it's helping me to be happier through these hard times. Right. Something tragic and horrible happens, it's okay, there's different meanings we can attach to this. It's not fair. It's why did it have to happen? Why did we... All these things or can make man what's the blessing, what's the shift? What's the thing we can change. And so I know it's not an easy thing. This is not something that's going to be like, Oh cool. I'll just start applying different meetings by default. But I do promise you that in most situations, our brains will slap the worst possible meaning on every situation. And if we can look at that and stop and pause and become conscious of it and step back and say, "Okay, I'm going to choose a different meaning. This is the meaning I'm going to attach instead." Is that this person confused, they slapped me because they didn't know who I was. They thought I was the wrong person, or they didn't understand the situation. Let me step back instead of punching them back and escalating this thing into a blood bath, which is actually fun. I'm all for fighting, but... I'm just kidding. Instead is come back and say, "Well, okay, they attached the wrong me. That's why they did this thing. Let me try to help them understand." I didn't, and coming back, we have an argument, I wasn't trying to be rude. This is the meaning that I attach to this and this is the reason, and this is why. Anyway, I hope that helps. I'll share this with my mom this last week. So obviously there's this whole, in the COVID situation, there's all these things, the vaccines. And my mom and I have very differing opinions on the vaccine and what you should do and what you should not do. And I'm not going to get political or talk like ... It's up to everybody individually, do your own research and figure out what's right for you. Right. But my mom and I definitely have different opinions on it. And she's very strong at one side, I'm very strong in the other side. And so we had this conversation and, in a spot where I wanted to get defensive and I wanted to try to point out my point of view and, try to prove through all my facts and all the logic and reasoning I have. I'm sure she wanted to do the same thing. When she told me and I was able to understand, she's doing this based on what she thinks is best for her and her best intentions. And I have to let her. I have to respect that. That's her decisions. It's not my decisions. And if I want her to love and respect my decisions, I need to respect hers. And so it was able to turn something that had probably a conversation that would have turned heated, frustrated, and probably burned some bridges for awhile into something where it's like, "Look, I love you and respect you, and I'm going to let you do what you feel is best. I'm going to do what I feel is best. And we can still love each other, respect each other." And the meaning is not like, "Oh, this person's dumb or they're wrong." Or they're whatever you want it by default want to attach to the situation, which makes me want to come fight and, and argue and all sorts of stuff. It shifted back to like, no, instead of that, the meaning is going to attach that this is what they feel is best for them. And I love them and I want them... And maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. Maybe I'm not wrong. I don't think I'm wrong, but it's their opinion. It's what they think is best for them. And so I'm going to love them and respect them for that and support them and just pray for them. And that's kind of it. So, anyway, I know this is a little different podcast episode, but I just wanted to give you guys that tool because something that's been helping me a lot, especially the last week or so. And yeah, it's just so as we're navigating these difficult times, any tools we can use help and learning about meaning and how to create your own, becoming a master of creating your own meanings, I learned from Tony a decade ago now, something that I'm using more and more, and it's been super helpful for me. So I hope that helps. Remember that your brain is going to slap a meaning on it. By default, it's going to be the worst possible one that's going to cause you to want to fight or flight or whatever that thing is. It's like your job to consciously stop and pick the meaning, pick the meaning that serves you the most, not the one that's going to cause the most turmoil in your life. And when you shift the meaning, it's just shifts the energy, it shifts the focus, and it can change your destiny. So hope it helps you guys. I appreciate you all. Thanks for listening. If you haven't studied everything Tony's ever put out, please do it. It'll make you better. It'll make you happier. It'll make life so much more full. I promise you, it has been for me. I'm grateful for him and his teachings. And that said appreciate you guys and good luck learning how to attach your own meanings to things. Thanks again. We'll talk soon. Hey, this is Russell again and earlier today I recorded the podcast about meaning and I just been thinking a lot about that over the last little bit. And just wanted to jump back in real quick and just add a couple more thoughts just for those who may not, maybe it didn't connect with yet because I wasn't very good at giving examples. I'm thinking more about, like some examples. I think about meaning in my life that I attach. For example, when my kids do something on my attach, like, "Oh, like I'm a bad dad because of that." Or my kids are lazy or all these different things we may attach, and a lot of times we beat ourselves up or beat other people up because we're attaching these meanings to different experiences and things that are happening. When instead of saying again, "Oh, I'm a bad dad." It's like, Oh, my kids are just, they have a lot of energy or I need to, how do I better explain this to them so they understand that importance of it or whatever that thing might be. Right. It's just shifting that, that meaning away from a lot of times the blame on us or blame on other people or opinions or judgments on other people to have more love and respect and understanding that everybody's kind of trying their best. And so I just want to kind of add that in there. I was thinking also I shared the conversation a little bit with my mom and I. And it's interesting because on her side, she's sharing me her thoughts and she's so emotional because she's scared for me because of my decisions. And I'm very scared for her because of her decisions. And so we have the same underlining fear for each other. Yet, we have the opposite beliefs on the topic. And so it's tough. And it's hard when both people are trying to do the right thing. Right. And so coming back and when the meaning becomes like hey this person really loves me and they really care, and this is their choices and that's what they feel is right. And I have to respect them. And I love them for that. I'm just like, I'm hoping that they will do the same thing for me. It's just shifting those meanings. So anyway, I just want to kind of add that in there for anybody who's trying to make it more real for themselves and think about it. Think about the times in your life, when you feel guilty, I'm a bad mom, I'm a bad dad. I'm a bad boss. I'm a bad employee. I'm a bad worker. I'm, all the guilt that we take on ourselves because we all do it and shifting that meaning, it's something different. So anyway, there's my addendum to the end of the podcast. I hope that helps shed a little bit more light. Anyway. Thanks for listening. Appreciate you all and we'll talk soon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices