
People vs Algorithms
Uncovering patterns of change in media, culture, and technology, each week media veterans Brian Morrissey, Alex Schleifer and Troy Young break down stuff that matters.
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Jun 20, 2025 • 46min
AI Optimism in Cannes
Neil Vogel, President of Dotdash Meredith, and Sarah Fisher, media industry reporter, dive into the optimistic outlook for publishing in the AI era. They discuss the transformative impact of AI on advertising and content monetization, likening it to the advent of the automobile. The conversation emphasizes the shift towards audience engagement and the necessity for quality content in a changing media landscape. They explore how AI is reshaping strategies and relationships within the publishing world, urging adaptability amid new challenges.

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Jun 13, 2025 • 1h 4min
Liquid Courage
The discussion kicks off with a critique of Apple's controversial iOS 26 design update, questioning its usability in real-world environments. They dive into the struggles of media companies trapped in a declining link economy, where publishers receive paltry returns. A lively defense of Zaslav as a media savior unfolds alongside ruminations on the art of good product design. Nostalgic reflections on user-generated content contrast with the changing roles in the tech industry, offering insights into creativity in a landscape shaped by AI and branding challenges.

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Jun 6, 2025 • 47min
From Pageviews to Proximity
Explore the shifting landscape of media as traditional advertising struggles and proximity takes the lead as a value measurement. Delve into the bloated conference scene and why some publishers are pulling back while others embrace curated events. Discover the dynamics behind Newsweek's acquisition of an ad tech company and the impact of AI on creativity and advertising. Learn about a highly profitable newsletter business that defies legacy media trends and the critical metrics for understanding business performance today.

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May 30, 2025 • 1h 18min
One-Trick Pony
Explore how Google is shifting from a search engine to a dominant AI force shaping the future of tech. The discussion dives into the failures of media unionization and the chaotic landscape of advertising. They also touch on innovative tools like VO3 and the potential impact of AI on the creative workforce. Plus, enjoy light-hearted anecdotes about life on Shelter Island, including quirky community moments at the local dump and insights into navigating e-commerce.

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May 23, 2025 • 1h 5min
From Pages to Protocols
The rise of AI is radically transforming the digital landscape, shifting from traditional web browsing to protocol-driven environments. Content creators face new challenges as AI technologies change user interactions. The conversation delves into the evolving world of sports data, highlighting how fan engagement is being redefined. There's also an exploration of the balance between authenticity and curated media in an era dominated by AI. Finally, the discussion tackles the risk dynamics of media publishing and the need for innovation amidst economic pressures.

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May 16, 2025 • 1h 7min
Brittle Apple
The discussion kicks off with wild ideas about unconventional business ventures related to death, sprinkled with absurd humor. Eurovision takes center stage, filled with personal anecdotes and festive cultural charm. Tune in as HBO Max's tumultuous rebranding journey unfolds against a backdrop of evolving media challenges. Airbnb's shift to a comprehensive service platform is examined, while Apple faces stagnation in hardware amidst its services growth. The dialogue also navigates the playful side of car selling and touches on innovative community engagement ideas.

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May 9, 2025 • 1h 9min
The AI Overhang
The hosts engage in lively discussions about the latest AI search innovations and the chasm between AI hype and reality. They dissect the digital publishing landscape, particularly how companies are responding to changing consumer behaviors. Legal battles in Google's ad tech reveal the complexities of AI integration, while Valnet’s surprising pivot from adult to children's content raises eyebrows. They also touch on the evolving world of digital advertising, highlighting the ethical challenges posed by AI-driven targeting and shifting media dynamics.

May 2, 2025 • 1h 24min
Group Chat
* Watch us on YouTube* Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter* Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter* Alex Schleifer's Human Computer* Follow Alex, Brian and Troy on TwitterChapters:* 00:00 Open* 00:22 Intro* 00:45 Welcome* 01:20 Marketing Advertising Media Events* 07:01 The Shoes That Have Not Dropped* 20:43 Group Chats* 31:38 Zuck Derangement Syndrome* 54:54 Epic Beats Apple* 59:14 Trump Cabinet Influencers* 01:06:32 Good Product* 01:13:29 Overtime With AB This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.peoplevsalgorithms.com

Apr 25, 2025 • 1h 11min
Tech Bros With Mics
From TBPN to Turpentine, it’s not journalism—it just looks like it. They also explore the “Chaos Economy” through Foxconn’s EV pivot and unpack why analogies beat logic in shaping how we process tech shifts. Plus, Pete Buttigieg’s appearance on Flagrant shows that even politics is adapting to the influencer era.* Watch us on YouTube* Troy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletter* Brian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletter* Alex Schleifer's Human Computer* Follow Alex, Brian and Troy on TwitterChapters:* 00:00 Open * 00:55 Welcome * 01:26 Ode to Zins * 04:15 Tech's Alternative Media Playbook * 24:53 Chaos Economy * 40:00 Analogy Machines vs Rational Animals * 57:27 Pete Buttigieg and the Manosphere Media Moment * 01:08:11 Good Product * 01:10:17 Outro This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.peoplevsalgorithms.com

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Apr 18, 2025 • 1h 10min
Hyperpunditry
This week we dig into the spread of hyperpunditry and why the Information Space rewards those who confidently switch lanes with abandon. Plus: AI’s bottoms-up adoption curve, Anonymous Banker on golf media’s strength and the crazy life of sea turtles.Watch us on YouTubeTroy Young's People vs Algorithms newsletterBrian Morrissey's The Rebooting newsletterAlex Schleifer's Human ComputerFollow Alex, Brian and Troy on Twitter This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.peoplevsalgorithms.com