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Uncovering patterns of change in media, culture, and technology, each week media veterans Brian Morrissey, Alex Schleifer and Troy Young break down stuff that matters.
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6 snips
Jul 18, 2025 • 1h 7min
Substack As A Unicorn
Dive into the intriguing world of Substack's ambitions, navigating the messy reality of their creative execution. Explore the potential launch of an OnlyFans-like network and how livestreaming could reshape media engagement. Unpack the shifting dynamics of online content and AI's surprising influence on traditional tools like Excel. The hosts also tackle Google Discover's new strategies and the impact of AI on various sectors, promising a lively discussion about the future of media and creativity.

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Jul 11, 2025 • 59min
The AI Head Fake
The hosts dive into the recent departure of Linda Yaccarino as X CEO and its implications for leadership. They discuss the broken media distribution ecosystem and the controversial role of AI in shaping content. Gen Z's unique news consumption habits emerge as a topic, spotlighting their preference for social media platforms. The conversation shifts to the browser wars, highlighting competition between new entrants and giants. The episode wraps up with insights on adapting to consumer expectations in the evolving media landscape.

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Jul 4, 2025 • 1h 1min
The End of Advertising
Dive into the dramatic collapse of traditional advertising and explore the rise of political figures like Zohran Mamdani, challenging the norm. Discover the implications of generative AI on creativity and writing in today’s media landscape. Discuss the backlash against the wealth spectacle and how cultural perceptions of affluence are shifting. Witness the struggles of publishers battling AI bots and the evolving nature of digital marketing. Plus, a quirky look at middle-aged masculinity through the lens of grilling large-format meats!

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Jun 27, 2025 • 55min
The Substack Conundrum
Dive into the complexities of building brands on platforms like Substack, as the hosts dissect its business model and user engagement challenges. The conversation highlights the disconnection of AI in the media landscape and regulations surrounding it. They also explore evolving sports media economics, including private equity's role and rising interest in women's sports. With engaging anecdotes from travels in Europe, listeners get a taste of cultural contrasts and culinary delights!

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Jun 20, 2025 • 46min
AI Optimism in Cannes
Neil Vogel, President of Dotdash Meredith, and Sarah Fisher, media industry reporter, dive into the optimistic outlook for publishing in the AI era. They discuss the transformative impact of AI on advertising and content monetization, likening it to the advent of the automobile. The conversation emphasizes the shift towards audience engagement and the necessity for quality content in a changing media landscape. They explore how AI is reshaping strategies and relationships within the publishing world, urging adaptability amid new challenges.

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Jun 13, 2025 • 1h 4min
Liquid Courage
The discussion kicks off with a critique of Apple's controversial iOS 26 design update, questioning its usability in real-world environments. They dive into the struggles of media companies trapped in a declining link economy, where publishers receive paltry returns. A lively defense of Zaslav as a media savior unfolds alongside ruminations on the art of good product design. Nostalgic reflections on user-generated content contrast with the changing roles in the tech industry, offering insights into creativity in a landscape shaped by AI and branding challenges.

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Jun 6, 2025 • 47min
From Pageviews to Proximity
Explore the shifting landscape of media as traditional advertising struggles and proximity takes the lead as a value measurement. Delve into the bloated conference scene and why some publishers are pulling back while others embrace curated events. Discover the dynamics behind Newsweek's acquisition of an ad tech company and the impact of AI on creativity and advertising. Learn about a highly profitable newsletter business that defies legacy media trends and the critical metrics for understanding business performance today.

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May 30, 2025 • 1h 18min
One-Trick Pony
Explore how Google is shifting from a search engine to a dominant AI force shaping the future of tech. The discussion dives into the failures of media unionization and the chaotic landscape of advertising. They also touch on innovative tools like VO3 and the potential impact of AI on the creative workforce. Plus, enjoy light-hearted anecdotes about life on Shelter Island, including quirky community moments at the local dump and insights into navigating e-commerce.

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May 23, 2025 • 1h 5min
From Pages to Protocols
The rise of AI is radically transforming the digital landscape, shifting from traditional web browsing to protocol-driven environments. Content creators face new challenges as AI technologies change user interactions. The conversation delves into the evolving world of sports data, highlighting how fan engagement is being redefined. There's also an exploration of the balance between authenticity and curated media in an era dominated by AI. Finally, the discussion tackles the risk dynamics of media publishing and the need for innovation amidst economic pressures.

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May 16, 2025 • 1h 7min
Brittle Apple
The discussion kicks off with wild ideas about unconventional business ventures related to death, sprinkled with absurd humor. Eurovision takes center stage, filled with personal anecdotes and festive cultural charm. Tune in as HBO Max's tumultuous rebranding journey unfolds against a backdrop of evolving media challenges. Airbnb's shift to a comprehensive service platform is examined, while Apple faces stagnation in hardware amidst its services growth. The dialogue also navigates the playful side of car selling and touches on innovative community engagement ideas.