
WP Tavern
The WP Tavern Jukebox is a podcast for the WordPress community. We interview people who are pushing change in how WordPress evolves. Plugins, Blocks, Themes, Community, Events, Accessibility and Diversity; we try to cover all the bases. Subscribe to be updated when we bring you new content.
Latest episodes

Apr 16, 2025 • 42min
#165 – Aaron D. Campbell Why Open Standards and WordPress Matter
On the podcast today we have Aaron D. Campbell, and we're here to talk about the significance of open standards and open source in the digital world. Aaron shares his 18-year journey contributing to WordPress, and expresses excitement about its future as an open, viable counterbalance to closed platforms. We discuss the history and current state of the internet, emphasising the importance of choice and interoperability. The conversation covers the impact of proprietary platforms and highlights efforts to promote open standards, ultimately Aaron argues for a more open, and collaborative, web for innovation and societal benefit. If you're curious about the role of open systems and the future they shape, and why the open web matters now more than ever, this episode is for you.

Apr 9, 2025 • 41min
164 – Milana Cap on the Interactivity and HTML APIs, and Their Enormous Potential
On the podcast today we have Milana Cap, and she's here to talk about her presentation at WordCamp Asia in Manila, titled "WordPress gems for developers: fresh new features you'll actually want to use." Milana, a WordPress Engineer at XWP from Serbia, discusses the significance of the Interactivity API and HTML API in modern WordPress development. The Interactivity API enables communication between Gutenberg blocks, while the HTML API simplifies server-side DOM manipulation using PHP. These advancements enhance WordPress' interactivity, boost performance, and provide standardised solutions for developers, improving efficiency and moving WordPress into the future. If you're a developer looking to leverage these new WordPress features, this episode is for you.

Apr 2, 2025 • 42min
#163 – Birgit Pauli-Haack on the Magic of the WordPress Playground
On the podcast today we have Birgit Pauli-Haack who I spoke to at WordCamp Asia. We explore WordPress Playground, a transformative tool allowing users to launch a WordPress instance directly in their browsers without needing a server, PHP, or a database. Users can test plugins, themes, and content seamlessly. We also discuss the potential for Blueprints, pre-configured setups with specific plugins and themes, offering a demo-like experience that could be used for education or plugin demonstrations. We touch on potential future developments, including permanent local storage and integration with hosting providers. If you’re curious about how the WordPress Playground is set to usher in a new era of friction-free web development, this episode is for you.

Mar 26, 2025 • 41min
#162 – Jo Minney on Website Usability Testing for WordPress Projects
Jo Minney, a UX consultant and small business founder from Perth, shares her expertise in usability testing tailored for WordPress projects. She delves into the distinction between usability and user acceptance testing and emphasizes the economic benefits of improving user experience. Jo discusses cost-effective testing strategies, the importance of diverse participant backgrounds, and maintaining proactive communication with clients. Additionally, she highlights the risks of deceptive design practices and the growing need for accessibility in web design.

Mar 18, 2025 • 44min
#161 – Robert Jacobi on WordPress, Security, and the OSI Model
On the podcast today we have Robert Jacobi and he's here to talk about his tech journey, and his role at Black Wall, formerly BotGuard. We talk about the OSI model, explaining how computer networks communicate through seven layers, from application to physical. Robert shares insights into Black Wall's focus on preventing bot attacks at a layer far from the website, mitigating risks before they hit the hosting company. There's also a brief discussion of WordPress plugins and the complexity of online security, with a nod to the hope of increasing listeners' understanding of these intricate processes. If you've ever wondered about the unseen layers of internet security and infrastructure, or the strategic moves involved in rebranding a tech company, this episode is for you.

Mar 12, 2025 • 46min
#160 – Rahul Bansal on Success in Enterprise WordPress
On the podcast today we have Rahul Bansal, CEO of rtCamp. He's here to talk about his journey from a blogger to running a large enterprise WordPress agency. Rahul discusses the nuances of working with enterprise clients, emphasising scalability and security. We get into rtCamp's growth, client acquisition strategies, and their unique training initiative attracting talent from colleges, focused on contributing to WordPress and fostering open-source advocacy. Rahul also highlights WordPress's adaptability, particularly with Gutenberg, in crafting robust, enterprise-level solutions while actively supporting the WordPress community. If you've ever considered what it takes to work with WordPress at the enterprise level, this episode is for you.

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Mar 5, 2025 • 39min
#159 – James Kemp on WooCommerce Innovations and Trends in Selling Online
In this episode, James Kemp, the Core Product Lead for WooCommerce at Automattic, shares insights into his journey and the innovations driving e-commerce today. He emphasizes the importance of community feedback in product development while addressing challenges like backward compatibility. James highlights WooCommerce's substantial market impact, revealing it powers around 37% of e-commerce sites. The discussion touches on the competitive landscape, innovative trends like mobile technology, and the platform's recent rebranding efforts to better compete with giants like Shopify.

Feb 26, 2025 • 37min
#158 – John Overall on How Podcasting Shaped His WordPress Journey
On the podcast today we have John Overall, a veteran podcaster in the WordPress space. We discuss John's journey in podcasting, starting with WP Plugins A to Z. John shares insights on the evolution of podcasting and WordPress, emphasising the importance of audio quality and the community's role in WordPress's growth. He talks about involving his daughter in his podcast, adapting content for a younger audience, and continuing to expand their business's expertise. The episode highlights the enduring value and impact of podcasting in the WordPress community. If you’re passionate about WordPress, podcasting, or just interested in understanding a holistic approach to long-term content creation and audience engagement, this episode is for you.

Feb 19, 2025 • 41min
#157 – Katie Keith on the Move From Agency Owner to WordPress Theme Development to Plugin Success
On the podcast today we have Katie Keith, the founder and CEO of Barn2 Plugins. Katie shares her journey from running a WordPress agency to transitioning into a successful WordPress plugin company specialising in WooCommerce and other plugins. She discusses the challenges and strategies involved in this transition, including the initial successes and later refinements to her business model. Katie also touches on the current state of the WordPress and WooCommerce markets, her future business plans, and the impact of her husband leaving the company. If you’re curious about the intricacies of building a plugin business, or are seeking inspiration from someone who has already navigated the WordPress ecosystem, this episode is for you.

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Feb 12, 2025 • 43min
#156 – Derek Ashauer on Analytics Options and Privacy Challenges
Derek Ashauer, a WordPress plugin developer known for Sunshine Photo Cart and Conversion Bridge, dives into the dynamic world of web analytics. He discusses the impact of European privacy laws and the limitations of Google Analytics. Derek highlights the rise of privacy-focused tools like Fathom and Plausible, emphasizing the growing need for user privacy. He also explains how Conversion Bridge simplifies conversion tracking for both individuals and agencies, providing valuable insights for developers and digital marketers navigating this evolving landscape.
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