
TechFirst with John Koetsier
Tech that is changing the world. Innovators who are shaping the future.
Deep discussions with diverse leaders from Silicon Valley giants and scrappy global startups. Plus some short monologues based on my Forbes columns.
Latest episodes

Apr 19, 2024 • 29min
World's first micro lunar rover
In January of this year, Peregrine Mission One launched with at least 22 payloads. One was intended to be the first American made rover to land on the moon since the Apollo days: 1972.
It was called Iris, and it was also the first lunar rover constructed with carbon fiber. It was designed and built by students at Carnegie Mellon University.
Today, we’re going to chat with them ...
Despite a mission failure due to the lander experiencing a propellant leak and missing its lunar target, the Iris team achieved significant milestones. They successfully demonstrated that student-made rovers could survive space conditions, including the Van Allen Belt's radiation, and maintain communication and functions in space.
This project, despite its setbacks, marks a significant achievement in democratizing space exploration and contributes to the broader vision of establishing moon bases and Mars bases as stepping stones for further space exploration.
00:00 The Future of Space Exploration: Moon and Mars Bases
00:42 Introducing can the Iris Lunar Rover Project
05:17 The Team Behind Iris: Roles and Experiences
09:00 Scientific Goals and Achievements of the Iris Rover
12:58 Overcoming Failure: Lessons from a Mission Gone Wrong
22:03 The Next Steps: Future Missions and Career Paths
25:59 Reflecting on the Golden Age of Space Exploration

Apr 12, 2024 • 33min
After AGI
What happens after AGI?
AGI is artificial general intelligence: it’s when AI achieves human-level intelligence nd likely quickly thereafter super-human abilities, maybe even ushering in the Singularity.
I was recently at the Beneficial AGI conference in Panama. One of the speakers was the founder of Emerj Artificial Intelligence Research. He’s interviewed nearly 1,000 AI leaders, his name is Dan Faggella, and he has some good insight into what AGI might do.
Or at least what the experts think about it …
We discuss artificial general intelligence (AGI), the potential for post-human bliss through advanced simulations, and various perspectives on AGI's ethical and societal impacts. Fagella shares insights from interviews with nearly a thousand AI experts, outlining a matrix to categorize thoughts on AGI's future and human interaction. The discussion covers the balance between control, collaboration, and open-source development in AI, along with personal reflections on humanity's potential paths in an AI-dominated future. Themes include the ethical implications of AGI, the role of human values in AI development, and speculative futures where humanity merges with or is overshadowed by superior AI entities.
00:00 Exploring Post-Human Bliss and the Power of AI
01:31 The Matrix of AI Perspectives
02:50 Exploring the Future with AI: Preservation, Progression, and Ascension
04:26 Navigating the Path to AI: Control, Collaboration, Openness
07:11 Personal Stances and the Future of AI
19:00 AI's Impact on Society and the Future
24:23 Envisioning a Post-Human Future: Choices and Consequences
29:53 Reflections on Humanity's Path Forward with AI

Mar 30, 2024 • 33min
No-notch iPhones, FaceID on Android, biometrics everywhere
Metalenz CEO Rob Devlin discusses the revolutionary meta surfaces product that can eliminate iPhone notches and bring secure Face ID to Android at a lower cost. The technology enables decoding surface information from reflected light, advancing biometrics, phones, medical devices, and robots. Partnership with ST Microelectronics integrates metasurface optics in over 150 smartphone models, enhancing optical systems efficiency and reducing size and cost.

Mar 21, 2024 • 33min
Billions of robots in 10 years
Exploring the exponential growth of robots in the next decade, from mundane tasks to enhancing customer service. Discussing the evolution of robotics in business operations and the role of service infrastructure. Highlighting specific applications in restaurants, cleaning services, and healthcare for dementia patients. Emphasizing the franchise model for rapid expansion and customer service.

Mar 13, 2024 • 20min
Apple Vision Pro: future of surgical training?
Is the Apple Vision Pro the future of surgical training?
In this episode of TechFirst, host John Koetsier discusses the transformative impact of virtual reality (VR) on surgical training, highlighting the cost-efficiency and effectiveness of VR in reducing the learning curve for surgeons.
The conversation features Richard Vincent, CEO of Fundamental VR, who elaborates on how VR technology, particularly the Apple Vision Pro, is revolutionizing surgical education by offering rapid, repeatable training sessions without the logistical setbacks associated with traditional methods. They explore the hardware agnosticism of Fundamental VR's software, ensuring compatibility with various VR platforms, and delve into the new possibilities unlocked by the Apple Vision Pro's advanced features, including its intuitive control system, powerful compute capacity, and exceptional optics.
The discussion also touches on the incorporation of haptics for a more immersive training experience, the potential of VR for remote collaborative training, and the broader implications of VR technology in the medical field.
00:00 Unlocking the Future of Surgical Training with VR
01:15 The Cost-Effectiveness of VR in Surgical Training
03:13 Achieving Competence: The Role of VR in Surgery
04:45 Hardware From Oculus to Apple Vision Pro
07:04 The Revolutionary Apple Vision Pro in Surgical Training
10:35 The Power of Haptics: Enhancing VR Training with Physical Feedback
13:07 The Impact of Device Cost on VR Training Accessibility
14:34 Expanding Horizons: VR's Role in Remote Surgery Training
17:03 The Future of Medical Training and Collaboration with VR
18:48 Apple Vision Pro: A Game-Changer for Medical VR Applications
20:15 Closing Thoughts and Future Prospects

Mar 5, 2024 • 40min
AGI in 3 to 8 years
When will AI match and surpass human capability? In short, when will we have AGI, or artificial general intelligence ... the kind of intelligence that should teach itself and grow itself to vastly larger intellect than an individual human?
According to Ben Goertzel, CEO of SingularityNet, that time is very close: only 3 to 8 years away. In this TechFirst, I chat with Ben as we approach the Beneficial AGI conference in Panama City, Panama.
We discuss the diverse possibilities of human and post-human existence, from cyborg enhancements to digital mind uploads, and the varying timelines for when we might achieve AGI. We talk about the role of current AI technologies, like LLMs, and how they fit into the path towards AGI, highlighting the importance of combining multiple AI methods to mirror human intelligence complexity.
We also explore the societal and ethical implications of AGI development, including job obsolescence, data privacy, and the potential geopolitical ramifications, emphasizing the critical period of transition towards a post-singularity world where AI could significantly improve human life. Finally, we talk about ownership and decentralization of AI, comparing it to the internet's evolution, and envisages the role of humans in a world where AI surpasses human intelligence.
00:00 Introduction to the Future of AI
01:28 Predicting the Timeline of Artificial General Intelligence
02:06 The Role of LLMs in the Path to AGI
05:23 The Impact of AI on Jobs and Economy
06:43 The Future of AI Development
10:35 The Role of Humans in a World with AGI
35:10 The Diverse Future of Human and Post-Human Minds
36:51 The Challenges of Transitioning to a World with AGI
39:34 Conclusion: The Future of AGI

Feb 23, 2024 • 26min
Oysters reporting water quality? Not science fiction!
Can you use sentinel oysters and other mollusks to track water quality near your cities, beaches, or the Great Barrier Reef?
Actually ... yes.
In this episode of TechFirst, host John Koetsier chats with the CEO of Moloscan, a company focused on bio-monitoring and protection of marine environments using live shellfish.
The company uses aquatic bivalves, such as oysters, mussels, or clams to monitor the environment. These mollusks, which are filter feeders, react to changes in water conditions, helping to detect pollution and other disruptions in water quality.
The discussion covers the technological developments and rigorous research necessary to map out the normal behaviour of these animals and provide accurate water quality ratings. They also discuss how this method is more efficient and environmentally friendly compared to traditional mechanical probes and lab tests.
The CEO shares examples of installations in varied environments, ranging from oil and gas platforms to diverse geographical locations from Quebec to Qatar.
00:00 Introduction to Sentinel Oysters and Water Quality Monitoring
00:55 Understanding the Concept of Biomonitoring
01:48 The Science Behind Mollusk Behavior and Detection
02:43 The Journey of Developing the Monitoring Device
04:24 Understanding the Sensitivity and Precision of Mollusks
05:12 The Role of Mollusks in Detecting Water Pollution
08:06 The Technical Aspects of Monitoring Mollusk Behavior
10:43 The Real-world Application of Mollusk Monitoring
15:34 The Challenges and Benefits of Using Mollusks as Sensors
22:51 The Potential for Expanding the Technique to Other Biomes
06:24 Conclusion: The Future of Biomonitoring

Feb 16, 2024 • 26min
Here's an all-wheel drive e-bike ... with ChatGPT
Do you need ChatGPT integrated into your new bike? How about an all-wheel drive bike? (OK: a 2-wheel drive ... but yeah, that's all-wheel drive!)
In this episode of TechFirst, host John Koetsier chats the CEO of Urtopia about their new AI-integrated 'smart bike with a mind'.
The e-bike market is predicted to grow to about $26 billion by 2028, but Dr. Owen Chang explains how Urtopia is taking a different approach by developing most parts in-house to create a fully integrated, software-enabled product. He says their AI features, like ChatGPT integration, makes e-bikes safer and more personalised. It can also provide assistance including directions, making the ride safer and more enjoyable. Utopia is further developing its own version of GPT based on GPT-5, refining its potential functionalities.
We also chat about the world's first e-bike that has drive motors on both wheels, providing more power and better traction.
00:00 Introduction and Welcome
01:06 Exploring the Fusion GT Bike
01:47 The Design and Development Process
03:53 The Power of Dual Motor and Dual Battery System
06:51 The Future of Bikes: ChatGPT Integration?
07:12 The Role of AI in Utopia's Bikes
07:38 The Vision of Utopia: A Bicycle with a Mind
16:48 The Future of Smart Devices and E-bikes
25:30 Conclusion: The Bike as a Wearable Device

Feb 7, 2024 • 22min
App store for your brain: reading brain waves to fix sleep, pain, learning
Can you deliver medical treatment by changing brainwaves instead of injecting drugs?
Elon Musk has recently implanted his first Neuralink into a human patient. But can we get neurotech medical treatment without drilling holes in our skulls?
Maybe ...
According to Element, a startup with roots in MIT, we can. And they say they can read your brainwaves, manipulate them, and fix issues like sleep disorders, tremors, pain, as well as speeding up learning. Today we're chatting with Meredith Perry, the CEO and former NASA astrobiology Researcher, plus Dr. David Wang, co-founder and CTO, who has a PhD in AI from MIT.
This technology could potentially treat medical conditions ranging from sleep disorders and tremors to learning difficulties. We also discuss the future of medtech, envisioning an 'app store for the brain' where individualized treatments can be downloaded like apps, focusing on promoting the most optimized state of health for any given individual through real-time detection and diagnosis.
00:00 Intro to Neurotech and Neurostimulation
00:33 Welcome and Introduction of Guests
01:31 Understanding the Concept of Elemind's Neurotech Device
02:59 Exploring the Form Factor of the Device
04:23 How it works
07:28 Effectiveness and Impact of the Device
13:05 Future Plans and Vision for the Device
18:52 Potential and Impact of the Device on Healthcare
21:35 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Feb 5, 2024 • 15min
Hacking reality: Apple Vision Pro and security
John Koetsier discusses Apple's Vision Pro, a VR headset, and security concerns with Jamie Boote, Synopsys principal security consultant. They explore potential privacy threats and vulnerabilities, Apple's security measures, and predictions for future security issues in new technology.