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Nov 28, 2022 • 28min
SoS 178: Modeling Health Outcomes in Pregnancy with Dr. Monica Keith
Cara interviews Dr. Monica Keith, an Assistant Professor of Anthropology at Vanderbilt University and Data Scientist who studies longitudinal health and child growth in a biosocial framework. Monica uses Bayesian models to assess predictors of growth and health outcomes and integrates health, socio-ecological, and genetic data to study human variation and health disparities in diverse contexts.
Monica currently works with three ongoing field studies in Dominica, Bangladesh, and Argentina, researching health, growth, and biodemography in rural and Indigenous populations. She also uses data from the NIH National Institute of Child Health and Human Development to address disparities in reproductive and maternal health in the US.
She joins Cara to discuss her most recent work (in review) titled: "Racialized/ethnic disparities in pathways linking social determinants of health, markers of allostatic load, and hypertensive disorders of pregnancy among nulliparous US women."
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Monica's e-mail: monica.h.keith@vanderbilt.edu
Website: https://www.monicahkeith.com/
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Contact the Sausage of Science Podcast and Human Biology Association:
Facebook: www.facebook.com/groups/humanbiologyassociation
Website:humbio.org/, Twitter: @HumBioAssoc
Cara Ocobock, Website: sites.nd.edu/cara-ocobock/, Email:cocobock@nd.edu, Twitter:@CaraOcobock
Chris Lynn, HBA Public Relations Committee Chair, Website: cdlynn.people.ua.edu/, Email: cdlynn@ua.edu, Twitter:@Chris_Ly
Cristina Gildee, HBA Junior Fellow, SoS producer:
E-mail: cgildee@uw.edu

Nov 22, 2022 • 34min
SoS 177: The Wandering Path to Biological Anthropology; Breastmilk and Immune Function
Cara returns to join Chris in interviewing Kathy Wander, a biological anthropologist and epidemiologist working at the intersection of human evolutionary biology and health. Much of Dr. Wander's research seeks to understand how humans (and in particular, children) cope with nutritional and infectious disease stress and the impact of malnutrition and infectious disease on the protective and pathological capacity of the immune system. She has recently published papers about a method developed in her lab (https://www.wanderlab.org) to describe immune activity in human milk; the impact of gender and kinship on risk for chronic disease; and, how genetic adaptations to high altitude may decrease the risk for chronic disease among Himalayan-descended populations. She has active grants to investigate nutrition and infectious disease risk in Tanzania and Nigeria.
Check them out here:
"Tradeoffs in milk immunity affect infant infectious disease risk"
https://doi.org/10.1093/emph/eoac020
"Human milk lactoferrin variation in relation to maternal inflammation and iron deficiency in northern Kenya"
https://doi.org/10.1002/ajhb.23812
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Kathy's e-mail: katherinewander@binghamton.edu
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Contact the Sausage of Science Podcast and Human Biology Association:
Facebook: www.facebook.com/groups/humanbiologyassociation
Website:humbio.org/, Twitter: @HumBioAssoc
Cara Ocobock, Website: sites.nd.edu/cara-ocobock/, Email:cocobock@nd.edu, Twitter:@CaraOcobock
Chris Lynn, HBA Public Relations Committee Chair, Website: cdlynn.people.ua.edu/, Email: cdlynn@ua.edu, Twitter:@Chris_Ly
Cristina Gildee, HBA Junior Fellow, SoS producer:
E-mail: cgildee@uw.edu

Nov 14, 2022 • 24min
SoS 176: Ale Geisel-Zamora discusses social support and postpartum mental health during Covid
Ale Geisel-Zamora is an undergraduate student at Dartmouth College working under the direction of Prof. Zaneta Thayer. Ale won the Hilde Spielvogel Award for Outstanding Presentation by an Undergraduate Student at this year's HBA meeting for her poster "Social support promotes postpartum mental health among US-based participants during the COVID-19 pandemic."
The poster, and supplements, can be found here:
https://sagz.myportfolio.com/
Ale also chats with Cara and Chris about her undergraduate thesis work examining how Tiktok use affects stress.
Ale can be contacted on Instagram here:
https://www.instagram.com/alegoesglobal/
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Contact the Sausage of Science Podcast and Human Biology Association:
Facebook: www.facebook.com/groups/humanbiologyassociation
Website:humbio.org/, Twitter: @HumBioAssoc
Cara Ocobock, Website: sites.nd.edu/cara-ocobock/, Email:cocobock@nd.edu, Twitter:@CaraOcobock
Chris Lynn, HBA Public Relations Committee Chair, Website: cdlynn.people.ua.edu/, Email: cdlynn@ua.edu, Twitter:@Chris_Ly
Eric Griffith, HBA Junior Fellow, SoS producer:
E-mail: eric.griffith@duke.edu

Nov 7, 2022 • 44min
SoS 175: Dr. Alison Murray: Bones, puberty, and activity levels in human females
Dr. Alison Murray joins Chris and Cara to discuss how activity levels during puberty have lifelong effects on bone structure in human females.
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Dr. Murray’s research examines the evolutionary and behavioral mechanisms shaping variations in human bone and body composition, as well as sex differences within it. To do so, she/they combine the study of archaeological skeletal remains with engineering-based musculoskeletal computer modeling and the experimental study of living humans, including athletes and control subjects.
Her paper discussed on today's show, titled "Tibial cortical and trabecular variables together can pinpoint the timing of impact loading relative to menarche in premenopausal females," can be found here:
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/ajhb.23711
Follow Dr. Murray @ali_murray & Dr. Murray’s research group @PhaseUVIC on Twitter
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Contact the Sausage of Science Podcast and Human Biology Association:
Facebook: www.facebook.com/groups/humanbiologyassociation
Website:humbio.org/, Twitter: @HumBioAssoc
Cara Ocobock, Website: sites.nd.edu/cara-ocobock/, Email:cocobock@nd.edu, Twitter:@CaraOcobock
Chris Lynn, HBA Public Relations Committee Chair, Website: cdlynn.people.ua.edu/, Email: cdlynn@ua.edu, Twitter:@Chris_Ly
Eric Griffith, HBA Junior Fellow, SoS producer:
E-mail: eric.griffith@duke.edu

Nov 1, 2022 • 28min
SoS 174: Rachael Anyim: Breastmilk, Cortisol, and Immune Function
Chris triumphs in a battle with technology while interviewing our gracious guest Rachael Anyim, a Clifford D. Clark Diversity Fellow and PhD candidate in anthropology at Binghamton University. Rachael and Chris discuss her recent abstract submission, "The effects of milk cortisol on immune responses to in vitro bacterial stimulation" and her work with immune biomarkers in infants and breastmilk. Rachael is the 2022 recipient of the HBA's Phyllis Eveleth Student Award for her outstanding presentation during last year's annual meeting.
Rachael recently co-authored a related methods paper with Dr. Katherine Wander and others in the Journal of Human Lactation titled "In Vitro Stimulation of Whole Milk Specimens: A Field-Friendly Method to Assess Milk Immune Activity" which you can find here: https://doi.org/10.1177/0890334421999628
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Rachael's e-mail: ranyim1@binghamton.edu
Twitter: https://twitter.com/BUBreastfeeding
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Contact the Sausage of Science Podcast and Human Biology Association:
Facebook: www.facebook.com/groups/humanbiologyassociation
Website:humbio.org/, Twitter: @HumBioAssoc
Cara Ocobock, Website: sites.nd.edu/cara-ocobock/, Email:cocobock@nd.edu, Twitter:@CaraOcobock
Chris Lynn, HBA Public Relations Committee Chair, Website: cdlynn.people.ua.edu/, Email: cdlynn@ua.edu, Twitter:@Chris_Ly
Cristina Gildee, HBA Junior Fellow, SoS producer:
E-mail: cgildee@uw.edu

Oct 24, 2022 • 28min
SoS 173: Dr. Amanda Veile discusses Caesarean sections, the infant gut microbiome, and obesity!
Dr. Amanda Veile is a biological anthropologist, and her research broadly examines human birthing and breastfeeding behaviors and outcomes, and several epidemiologic factors that shape cross-cultural variation in child development. She currently maintains field research projects in Mexico and Peru. She is an Assistant Professor of Biological Anthropology, the Director of LABOR (Laboratory for Behavior, Ontogeny and Reproduction), a faculty associate at the Center on Aging and the Life Course (CALC), an executive board member of the Ingestive Behavior Research Center (IBRC), and holds a courtesy faculty appointment in the Department of Public Health at Purdue University. She is also an Assistant Editor at Birth, a peer-reviewed obstetrics and gynecology journal.
Her paper discussed on today's show, titled "Household conditions modulate associations between cesarean delivery and childhood growth," can be found here:
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/ajpa.24563
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Prof. Veile can be contacted via her website:
http://www.amandaveile.com/
Or by e-mail: aveile@purdue.edu
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Contact the Sausage of Science Podcast and Human Biology Association:
Facebook: www.facebook.com/groups/humanbiologyassociation
Website:humbio.org/, Twitter: @HumBioAssoc
Cara Ocobock, Website: sites.nd.edu/cara-ocobock/, Email:cocobock@nd.edu, Twitter:@CaraOcobock
Chris Lynn, HBA Public Relations Committee Chair, Website: cdlynn.people.ua.edu/, Email: cdlynn@ua.edu, Twitter:@Chris_Ly
Eric Griffith, HBA Junior Fellow, SoS producer:
E-mail: eric.griffith@duke.edu

Oct 17, 2022 • 29min
SoS 172: Zach Cofran and Homo Naledi - Ilium? I hardly knew him!
Cara cannibalizes pickles before she and Chris interview Dr. Zachary Cofran, an assistant professor of Anthropology at Vassar College who is affiliated with the Center for the Exploration of the Deep Human Journey at the University of Witwatersrand. Dr. Cofran received his Ph.D. from the University of Michigan in 2012 (GO BLUE!). Zachary studies human evolution, growth, and development and has been heavily involved in the Rising Star cave system in South Africa.
Zachary has a new paper out in the American Journal of Biological Anthropology called "The immature Homo naledi ilium from the Lesedi Chamber, Rising Star Cave, South Africa"
Find it here: https://doi.org/10.1002/ajpa.24522
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Zach's e-mail: zcofran@vassar.edu
Website: https://lawnchairanthropology.com/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/ZCofran
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Contact the Sausage of Science Podcast and Human Biology Association:
Facebook: www.facebook.com/groups/humanbiologyassociation
Website:humbio.org/, Twitter: @HumBioAssoc
Cara Ocobock, Website: sites.nd.edu/cara-ocobock/, Email:cocobock@nd.edu, Twitter:@CaraOcobock
Chris Lynn, HBA Public Relations Committee Chair, Website: cdlynn.people.ua.edu/, Email: cdlynn@ua.edu, Twitter:@Chris_Ly
Cristina Gildee, HBA Junior Fellow, SoS producer:
E-mail: cgildee@uw.edu

Oct 10, 2022 • 48min
SoS 171: Behold! Natalia Reagan on Public Engagement
SoS 171: Behold! Natalia Reagan
Behold! Natalia Reagan joins Chris and Cara to talk science engagement, precarity in academia, and ...phallic grapes?!
Natalia Reagan is an anthropologist, primatologist, actor, producer, writer, host, and comedienne. She is a comedy writer and correspondent on Neil deGrasse Tyson’s StarTalk on Nat Geo and is also a StarTalk All-Star podcast host. She was the co-host on Spike TV’s show 10 Million Dollar Bigfoot Bounty. Natalia wrote and produced a web series called Talking Shit with Dr. Todd and Natalia.
She was also a regular animal expert on Nat Geo Wild’s Everything You Didn’t Know About Animals. She was a regular writer and host for Discovery Communication’s Seeker & TestTube. She has appeared on the TODAY Show, Fox News, Arise 360, HuffPost Weird News Podcast, and various podcasts & radio shows weighing in on different scientific subjects, from the evolution of boobs and butts to how pheromones play a role in human mating.
As an actress, Natalia has appeared in My Name is Earl, The Drew Carey Show, Better Off Ted, and Sex Drive. When not chasing Bigfoot or discussing the evolution of boobs, Natalia also works with a critically endangered subspecies of spider monkey, the Azuero spider monkey (Ateles geoffroyi azuerensis) in rural Panama and runs BOAS Network, an anthropology website that brings anthropology to the mainstream.
Before chasing ornery spider monkeys through the wilds of Central America, she wrote and performed sketch comedy and was in an improv troupe called The Omelettes. She has appeared in My Name is Earl, Better off Ted, and Sex Drive.
Natalia is also the co-founder and chief creative director of BOAS Network, a non-profit organization that brings the field of anthropology to the mainstream via fun and educational videos
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Natalia’s multitude of online presences can be found here: https://linktr.ee/nataliareagan
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The website for the Ernest & Hadley bookstore can be found here:
https://www.ernestandhadleybooks.com/
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Contact the Sausage of Science Podcast and Human Biology Association:
Facebook: www.facebook.com/groups/humanbiologyassociation
Website:humbio.org/, Twitter: @HumBioAssoc
Cara Ocobock, Website: sites.nd.edu/cara-ocobock/, Email:cocobock@nd.edu, Twitter:@CaraOcobock
Chris Lynn, HBA Public Relations Committee Chair, Website: cdlynn.people.ua.edu/, Email: cdlynn@ua.edu, Twitter:@Chris_Ly
Eric Griffith, HBA Junior Fellow, SoS producer:
E-mail: eric.griffith@duke.edu

Oct 3, 2022 • 48min
SoS 170: Lara Durgavich on Orangutan Menstruation, and the Case of the Missing Clitoris
Dr. Lara Durgavich is a visiting lecturer in the Anthropology Department at Boston University. In 2013, Lara received her Ph.D. from Boston University as well. Her research focuses on ovarian function, mating behaviors, and life history in captive orangutans. A strong proponent of science communication and outreach, Lara is also heavily involved with March Mammal Madness, a topic of discussion on this podcast many times in the past.
Chris and Cara investigate her new paper, “A composite menstrual cycle of captive orangutans, with associated hormonal and behavioral variability,” which recently came out in The American Journal of Primatology and can be found here: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35856470/
Her 2020 TEDxTufts Talk "An evolutionary perspective on human health and disease" can be found here: https://www.ted.com/talks/lara_durgavich_an_evolutionary_perspective_on_human_health_and_disease
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Lara's e-mail: ldurgavich@gmail.com
on Twitter at: twitter.com/tinkeringprim8
Website: https://thetinkeringprimate.wordpress.com/
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Contact the Sausage of Science Podcast and Human Biology Association:
Facebook: www.facebook.com/groups/humanbiologyassociation
Website:humbio.org/, Twitter: @HumBioAssoc
Cara Ocobock, Website: sites.nd.edu/cara-ocobock/, Email:cocobock@nd.edu, Twitter:@CaraOcobock
Chris Lynn, HBA Public Relations Committee Chair, Website: cdlynn.people.ua.edu/, Email: cdlynn@ua.edu, Twitter:@Chris_Ly
Cristina Gildee, HBA Junior Fellow, SoS producer:
E-mail: cgildee@uw.edu

Sep 26, 2022 • 40min
SoS 169: Andrea Silva-Caballero on Whether Technology Affects Adolescent Sleep
Andrea Silva-Caballero joins Chris and Cara to discuss her studies of adolescent sleep patterns in urban and rural Mexico.
Silva-Caballero completed her BA in Biological Anthropology in 2013 at the National School of Anthropology and History, Mexico City. Since then, she has specialized in medical anthropology with a focus on the pediatric population. She holds an MSc in Evolutionary Medicine awarded in 2017 by the University of Durham, United Kingdom, and is a member of the Durham Infancy & Sleep Center. She’s currently wrapping up revisions on her dissertation.
Silva-Caballero's research reexamines current biomedical ideas concerning adolescent sleep by examining and comparing adolescents' sleep patterns in two rural sites and one urban site in Mexico. In particular, she addresses the phase shift in adolescents' sleep-wake cycle and the influence of artificial light and solitary sleep on their sleep timing and duration.
Silva-Caballero was also the recipient of HBA’s 2022 E.E. Hunt Award, which recognizes a graduate student for an outstanding presentation or poster at the meeting. Silva-Caballero's poster was titled “Non-WEIRD Circadian Rhythms: Is There An Adolescent Shift in Sleep Timing.”
Finally, Andrea’s name may be familiar to listeners, as she is a member of our HBA Public Relations team. She is a junior service fellow for HBA & has been managing the website for the past year.
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The abstract for Andrea's 2022 HBA poster, "Non-WEIRD circadian rhythms: is there an adolescent shift in sleep timing?" can be found here:
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/ajhb.23740
Andrea won the Edward E. Hunt Jr. Award for this presentation at this year's HBA conference. Congrats, Andrea!
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Andrea's e-mail address is: andrea.silva-caballero2@durham.ac.uk
Andrea's can be found on Twitter at: https://twitter.com/Barbietrans4mer
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Contact the Sausage of Science Podcast and Human Biology Association:
Facebook: www.facebook.com/groups/humanbiologyassociation
Website:humbio.org/, Twitter: @HumBioAssoc
Cara Ocobock, Website: sites.nd.edu/cara-ocobock/, Email:cocobock@nd.edu, Twitter:@CaraOcobock
Chris Lynn, HBA Public Relations Committee Chair, Website: cdlynn.people.ua.edu/, Email: cdlynn@ua.edu, Twitter:@Chris_Ly
Eric Griffith, HBA Junior Fellow, SoS producer:
E-mail: eric.griffith@duke.edu


