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Mar 14, 2023 • 47min
Sausage of Science 188: The BAT suit that thrills and chills, and other tales to make you shiver
Chris and Mallika bring back repeat offender Dr. Stephanie Levy an assistant professor in the Department of Anthropology at Hunter College, a faculty member at the CUNY Graduate Center Department of Anthropology, and a core faculty member of the New York Consortium in Evolutionary Primatology (NYCEP). Dr. Levy returns to catch us up on her recent work in human energetics, biological adaptation, circumpolar populations, seasonality, social influences on health disparities, cardiometabolic health, and climate change. She graciously shares her experiences and research as a co-PI on the Indigenous Siberian Health and Adaptation Project (ISHAP), a collaborative project that includes researchers based in Russia and the U.S.
In this episode, we learn about her research exploring how environmental conditions across the life course influence population variation in metabolism and disease risk. Dr. Levy’s work investigates human evolution, adaptation, and health by integrating energetics and endocrinology tools to foster comparative research that examines how ecological and social environments shape biological variation across human populations and primate species.
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Find the publication discussed in today’s episode here:
“Brown adipose tissue thermogenesis among young adults in northeastern Siberia and Midwest United States and its relationship with other biological adaptations to cold climates” https://doi.org/10.1002/ajhb.23723
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Dr. Levy’s email: stephanie.levy@hunter.cuny.edu
Website: https://www.levyhumanbiologylab.com/
Twitter: @slevyscience
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Contact the Sausage of Science Podcast and Human Biology Association:
Facebook: www.facebook.com/groups/humanbiologyassociation
Website: humbio.org/, Twitter: @HumBioAssoc
Chris Lynn, HBA Public Relations Committee Chair, Website: cdlynn.people.ua.edu/, email: cdlynn@ua.edu, Twitter:@Chris_Ly
Mallika Sarma, Website: mallikasarma.com/, Twitter: @skyy_mal
Cristina Gildee, HBA Junior Fellow, SoS producer:
E-mail: cgildee@uw.edu

Mar 6, 2023 • 45min
Sausage of Science 187: Alicia DeLouize talks minimally invasive biomarkers
Alicia DeLouize, PhD candidate at the University of Oregon, joins Sausage of Science to chat about minimally invasive biomarkers, cancer, and why "Aging is an Earth thing" (maybe).
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Alicia M. DeLouize is a PhD candidate in Biological Anthropology with previous experience in psychology, oncology, and translational research. She specializes in global health, human evolutionary biology, and applied statistics. Her research focuses on the evolutionary and environmental underpinings of physiological systems, including aging, metabolism, the immune system, cancer, and other chronic diseases. By taking a multidisciplinary approach, she uses anthropology, biology, health sciences, psychology, and epidemiology to understand health and disease at the microbiological, personal, and population levels. Currently, she is study coordinator for the the World Health Organization’s World Health Survey Plus (WHS+) and she has worked closely with their Study on Global Ageing and Adult Health (SAGE) where she focuses on the population-based collection and analysis of minimally invasive biomarkers.
You can follow her work at https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alicia_Delouize2.
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Contact the Sausage of Science Podcast and Human Biology Association:
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Chris Lynn, HBA Public Relations Committee Chair, Website: cdlynn.people.ua.edu/, Email: cdlynn@ua.edu, Twitter:@Chris_Ly
Mallika Sarma, Website: mallikasarma.com/, Twitter: @skyy_mal
Eric Griffith, HBA Junior Fellow, SoS producer:
E-mail: eric.griffith@duke.edu

Mar 1, 2023 • 47min
Sausage of Science 186: Dr. Crystal Patil: Doulas, Sunflower Seeds, and Antenatal Needs
Chris and Mallika check in with Dr. Crystal Patil, (Ph.D. Anthropology from Ohio State University) whose research focuses on how the social world becomes embodied and expressed as health, illness, or suffering. The motivation for her research stems from a concern for social justice. Her research draws on ecological and social determinants frameworks to make sense of complex health-related problems. She applies these models as she develops and tests strategies to reduce health disparities and strengthen health systems both in the USA and in sub-Saharan Africa. Her mentoring focuses on fostering the productive careers of students and newer investigators and including them in her active research projects.
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Find the publications discussed in today's episode here:
CenteringPregnancy-Africa: A pilot of group antenatal care to address Millennium Development Goals: https://doi.org/10.1016/j.midw.2013.05.008
Implementation challenges and outcomes of a randomized controlled pilot study of a group prenatal care model in Malawi and Tanzania: https://doi.org/10.1002/ijgo.12324
An effectiveness-implementation hybrid type 1 trial assessing the impact of group versus individual antenatal care on maternal and infant outcomes in Malawi: https://doi.org/10.1186/s12889-020-8276-x
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Dr. Patil's email: cpatil@uic.edu
Website: https://nursing.uic.edu/profiles/crystal-patil/
Twitter: @clpatil
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Contact the Sausage of Science Podcast and Human Biology Association:
Facebook: www.facebook.com/groups/humanbiologyassociation
Website: humbio.org/, Twitter: @HumBioAssoc
Chris Lynn, HBA Public Relations Committee Chair, Website: cdlynn.people.ua.edu/, Email: cdlynn@ua.edu, Twitter:@Chris_Ly
Mallika Sarma, Website: mallikasarma.com/, Twitter: @skyy_mal
Cristina Gildee, HBA Junior Fellow, SoS producer:
E-mail: cgildee@uw.edu

Feb 21, 2023 • 51min
Sausage of Science 185: Dr. Jason DeCaro: How to Speak Softly and Carry a Big Tool Box
In this episode, Mallika and Chris chat with Dr. Jason DeCaro, Professor and Chair of the University of Alabama's Anthropology Department. Dr. DeCaro studies the intersection of cultural models, everyday practices, and human physiology in the production of differential well-being across the life course, especially but not exclusively focusing on children. His Developmental Ecology and Human Biology Lab is a biological anthropology "wet lab" providing a center within the department for biocultural research involving immunological, endocrine, nutritional, and other biological markers.
His recent publication on applying minimally invasive biomarkers of chronic stress across complex ecological contexts can be found at the following link:
https://doi.org/10.1002/ajhb.23814
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Dr. DeCaro's email: jason.a.decaro@ua.edu
Website: https://dehb.ua.edu/jason-decaro.html
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Contact the Sausage of Science Podcast and Human Biology Association:
Facebook: www.facebook.com/groups/humanbiologyassociation
Website: humbio.org/, Twitter: @HumBioAssoc
Chris Lynn, HBA Public Relations Committee Chair, Website: cdlynn.people.ua.edu/, Email: cdlynn@ua.edu, Twitter:@Chris_Ly
Mallika Sarma, Website: mallikasarma.com/, Twitter: @skyy_mal
Cristina Gildee, HBA Junior Fellow, SoS producer:
E-mail: cgildee@uw.edu

Feb 13, 2023 • 48min
Sausage of Science 184: Dr. Diane Tober sheds light on the complicated biopolitics of egg donation
What happens when hypercapitalism intersects with human fertility?
Professor Diane Tober joins Chris and Mallika to reveal some of the nuances of Assisted Reproductive Technologies, with a focus on egg donation.
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Diane Tober is Associate Professor at the University of Alabama Department of Anthropology and Institute for Social Science Research. She is a medical anthropologist with a focus on biocultural aspects of health, gender and sexuality, the commodification of the body, science and technology studies, bioethics, and social and reproductive justice. She has been conducting research exploring egg donors’ decisions and experiences within the global market for human eggs since 2013. With funding from the National Science Foundation, she is comparing egg donation in the United States and Spain. She has conducted field research in Iran, Spain, and the United States.
Prof. Tober can be contacted via her website:
https://dianetober.com/
Her book, "Romancing the Sperm," discussed on today's show can be found here:
https://www.rutgersuniversitypress.org/romancing-the-sperm/9780813590783
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Contact the Sausage of Science Podcast and Human Biology Association:
Facebook: www.facebook.com/groups/humanbiologyassociation
Website:humbio.org/, Twitter: @HumBioAssoc
Chris Lynn, HBA Public Relations Committee Chair, Website: cdlynn.people.ua.edu/, Email: cdlynn@ua.edu, Twitter:@Chris_Ly
Mallika Sarma, Website: mallikasarma.com/
Eric Griffith, HBA Junior Fellow, SoS producer:
E-mail: eric.griffith@duke.edu

Jan 31, 2023 • 1h 7min
Sausage of Science 183: Paula Tallman discusses water insecurity and gender-based violence
Welcome Sausage of Science's newest host Dr. Mallika S. Sarma! Mallika joins Chris as co-host while Cara is out on sabbatical.
In this episode, Mallika and Chris chat with Dr. Paula Tallman about several aspects of water insecurity, notably an important overlap with gender-based violence.
Dr. Paula Skye Tallman is an Assistant Professor of Anthropology at Loyola University Chicago. Her research examines the drivers of health inequities among marginalized populations in South America and Southeast Asia, with a focus on connecting this scholarship to environmental and social policy. Dr. Tallman received her B.A. in Behavioral Biology from Johns Hopkins University, her Ph.D. in Biological Anthropology from Northwestern University, and completed a postdoctoral fellowship focused on indigenous well-being and conservation at the Field Museum of Natural History in Chicago.
Her recent publications discussed on the show can be found at the following links, titled:
Water insecurity, self-reported physical health, and objective measures of biological health in the Peruvian Amazon
https://doi.org/10.1002/ajhb.23805
Water insecurity and mental health in the Amazon: Economic and ecological drivers of distress
https://doi.org/10.1002/sea2.12144
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Contact the Sausage of Science Podcast and Human Biology Association:
Facebook: www.facebook.com/groups/humanbiologyassociation
Website:humbio.org/, Twitter: @HumBioAssoc
Chris Lynn, HBA Public Relations Committee Chair, Website: cdlynn.people.ua.edu/, Email: cdlynn@ua.edu, Twitter:@Chris_Ly
Mallika Sarma, Website: https://mallikasarma.com/
Eric Griffith, HBA Junior Fellow, SoS producer:
E-mail: eric.griffith@duke.edu

Jan 4, 2023 • 45min
SoS 182: Dr. Elizabeth Miller and the necessity of a Biocultural Approach
Chris and Cara discuss underappreciated athletes before unpacking Big Data with Dr. Elizabeth Miller, an Associate Professor at the University of South Florida. Dr. Miller is a biological anthropologist interested in evolutionary and biocultural approaches to maternal and child health. Her research program spans the study of human milk composition and infant feeding practices, infant immune function in diverse ecologies, maternal iron homeostasis, and early microbiome maturation.
In this episode, she breaks down her use of a biocultural approach to early growth using data from NHANES to test the effects of social inequalities on birth weight and later height and how it can be used to contextualize potential pathways of embodiment that link social structure and biology.
Her latest publication can be found in AJHB, titled:
A critical biocultural approach to early growth in the United States
Find it here: https://doi.org/10.1002/ajhb.23726
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Dr. Miller's e-mail: emm3@usf.edu
Twitter: @humanbiolab
Website: https://humanbiolab.wordpress.com/
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Contact the Sausage of Science Podcast and Human Biology Association:
Facebook: www.facebook.com/groups/humanbiologyassociation
Website:humbio.org/, Twitter: @HumBioAssoc
Cara Ocobock, Website: sites.nd.edu/cara-ocobock/, Email:cocobock@nd.edu, Twitter:@CaraOcobock
Chris Lynn, HBA Public Relations Committee Chair, Website: cdlynn.people.ua.edu/, Email: cdlynn@ua.edu, Twitter:@Chris_Ly
Cristina Gildee, HBA Junior Fellow, SoS producer:
E-mail: cgildee@uw.edu

Dec 20, 2022 • 45min
SoS 181: Dr. Asher Rosinger returns to the podcast to discuss water and thirst!
On this show Dr. Asher Rosinger joins Cara and Chris to discuss his new paper in the American Journal of Human Biology (AJHB) titled “Cross-cultural variation in thirst perception in hot-humid and hot-arid environments: Evidence from two small-scale populations.”
Dr. Rosinger’s paper is available here:
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ajhb.23715
For more insight on this topic please see the upcoming AJHB special issue on Extreme Climatic Events and Human Biology and Health, which will be released in January and ties into the theme of thirst and extreme thermal environments.
Applications for the NSF REU field school mentioned on this episode can be accessed here:
https://anthropology.columbian.gwu.edu/koobi-fora-field-school
Correction: During the podcast Dr. Rosinger mentions “Sarah Fenestra” but her last name is Hlubik.
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Dr. Rosinger is an assistant professor of Anthropology and Biobehavioral Health at Penn State University where he is the director of the Water, Health, and Nutrition laboratory.
Dr. Rosinger’s full bio and e-mail address can be found here:
https://hhd.psu.edu/contact/asher-rosinger
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Contact the Sausage of Science Podcast and Human Biology Association:
Facebook: www.facebook.com/groups/humanbiologyassociation
Website:humbio.org/, Twitter: @HumBioAssoc
Cara Ocobock, Website: sites.nd.edu/cara-ocobock/, Email:cocobock@nd.edu, Twitter:@CaraOcobock
Chris Lynn, HBA Public Relations Committee Chair, Website: cdlynn.people.ua.edu/, Email: cdlynn@ua.edu, Twitter:@Chris_Ly
Eric Griffith, HBA Junior Fellow, SoS producer:
E-mail: eric.griffith@duke.edu

Dec 13, 2022 • 50min
SoS 180: Dr. Pollock on Monkey Pox, Chlamydia, and why people are so fussy about sex
Chris sits down with Dr. Emily Pollock, a Prevention Effectiveness Fellow at the CDC in the Division of Sexually Transmitted Disease Prevention, where she brings a more robust understanding of human behavior to the challenges of STI modeling for public health. Dr. Pollock earned her PhD in Biological Anthropology from the University of Washington, with a certificate from the Center for Studies in Demography and Ecology at the same institution. Her dissertation, "Epidemics as Complex Systems: Demography, Networks, and Treatment of Chlamydia trachomatis," focused on applying dynamic network analysis to understand how behavioral, biological, and biomedical factors influence chlamydia reinfection. Most recently, she worked as a data analytics and modeling team member for the CDC's response to the monkeypox outbreak. She has helped develop agent-based network models to understand behavioral drivers of monkeypox transmission and the effects of behavior on the epidemic's trajectory.
She discusses two papers:
First, the monkeypox model she and her team recently published: "Modeling the Impact of Sexual Networks in the Transmission of Monkeypox virus Among Gay, Bisexual, and Other Men Who Have Sex With Men" which you can find at: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7135e2.htm?s_cid=mm7135e2_w
And this paper: "Impacts of Changing Sexual Behavior on Chlamydia and Gonorrhea Burden Among US High School Students, 2007 to 2017," which has some fascinating insights into changing rates of sexual behavior and their contribution to some declines in adolescent STI diagnoses.
Find it here: http://dx.doi.org/10.1097/OLQ.0000000000001390 [dx.doi.org]
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Emily's e-mail: ruu7@cdc.gov
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Contact the Sausage of Science Podcast and Human Biology Association:
Facebook: www.facebook.com/groups/humanbiologyassociation
Website:humbio.org/, Twitter: @HumBioAssoc
Cara Ocobock, Website: sites.nd.edu/cara-ocobock/, Email:cocobock@nd.edu, Twitter:@CaraOcobock
Chris Lynn, HBA Public Relations Committee Chair, Website: cdlynn.people.ua.edu/, Email: cdlynn@ua.edu, Twitter:@Chris_Ly
Cristina Gildee, HBA Junior Fellow, SoS producer:
E-mail: cgildee@uw.edu

Dec 6, 2022 • 48min
SoS 179: What do grip strength and toe tapping have to do with Menopause? Dr. Sievert explains!
Prof. Lynnette Leidy Sievert joins Chris and Cara to discuss how hot flashes, and other symptoms of menopause, vary around the world. Stick around for "offboarding" career advice and a conversation about fish!
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Lynnette Leidy Sievert has studied variation in age at menopause and symptoms at midlife for more than 30 years. In collaboration with local researchers, she carried out studies of menopause in western Massachusetts; Hilo, Hawaii; the Selška Valley, Slovenia; Asunción and Mbaracayu, Paraguay; Puebla and Campeche, Mexico; Sylhet, Bangladesh; and London, UK, as well as pilot studies in Odisha, India, and Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia. Sievert also studies and writes about the evolution of menopause and post-reproductive life. Of late, she has been disentangling the experience of hot flashes from the heat and humidity of Campeche, Mexico, and planning to study hot flashes in the winter cold of Mongolia. Her current study is on hot flashes in relation to estimates of brown adipose tissue. Sievert is an elected Fellow of the AAAS, served on the Board of Trustees of the North American Menopause Society, and was the Editor-in-Chief of the American Journal of Human Biology, the journal of the Human Biology Association.
Her paper discussed on today's show, titled "Hand grip strength, standing balance, and rapid foot tapping in relation to the menopausal transition in Campeche, Mexico," can be found here:
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ajhb.23781
Contact Prof. Lynnette Sievert via e-mail at: leidy@umass.edu.
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Contact the Sausage of Science Podcast and Human Biology Association:
Facebook: www.facebook.com/groups/humanbiologyassociation
Website:humbio.org/, Twitter: @HumBioAssoc
Cara Ocobock, Website: sites.nd.edu/cara-ocobock/, Email:cocobock@nd.edu, Twitter:@CaraOcobock
Chris Lynn, HBA Public Relations Committee Chair, Website: cdlynn.people.ua.edu/, Email: cdlynn@ua.edu, Twitter:@Chris_Ly
Eric Griffith, HBA Junior Fellow, SoS producer:
E-mail: eric.griffith@duke.edu


