
The Container: A Circling and Authentic Relating Podcast
Focusing on the Relational Arts, including Circling, Nonviolent Communication, and Authentic Relating.
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Apr 28, 2025 • 1h 6min
AI and Digital Mysticism with Leif Hansen
Leif Hansen gives us a deeply spiritual look at the AI revolution and what it means. Truly, the aliens have landed. Already, we can use these tools to delve into the depths of our psyches, form new and more fulfilling relationships with technology, and grasp what consciousness really is.Find more of Leif's work here:🤖 Future Lab 🧘♂️CoachingGrow With Us 🦁 Get relational coaching with Sigh (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/radiantrelating) 🙏 Deepen your spiritual practice and attainment with Jonathan (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/coaching) Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletter Connect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook group Keep it namaste 🙏

Apr 14, 2025 • 1h 20min
Authentic Relating Everywhere with Ryel Kestano
Ryle Kestano is a major name in the Authentic Relating movement--he literally wrote the book on the topic. In this discussion, he shares his thoughts on bringing these important practices beyond the workshop format and into our everyday lives with everyone we know.His message calls us to make more powerful and real connections. Despite all the reasons we might have to reject or refuse people, can we show up for more authenticity in every part of our life? 🎓 You can learn Authentic Relating from the group Ryel co-founded here at AuthenticRelating.co. 📖 And you can find the book Authentic Relating by Ryel Kestano wherever books are sold.Grow With Us 🦁 Get relational coaching with Sigh (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/radiantrelating) 🙏 Deepen your spiritual practice and attainment with Jonathan (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/coaching) Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletter Connect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook group Keep it namaste 🙏

Mar 31, 2025 • 1h 13min
Facing the Fear of Death with Susan Campbell
Susan Campbell returns to talk about the fear of death. It's harrowing, it's confronting, but it's also a pathway to deep self-learning. 📬 Get Susan Campbell's fantastic Substack here. 🎧 Plus, listen to Episodes 24 and 25 to hear Susan walk us through her incredible From Triggered to Tranquil system. 📚 You can also find her extraordinary books (we highly recommend them) for sale here.Grow With Us 🦁 Get relational coaching with Sigh (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/radiantrelating) 🙏 Deepen your spiritual practice and attainment with Jonathan (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/coaching) Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletter Connect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook group Keep it namaste 🙏

Mar 17, 2025 • 1h 14min
Integral Circling School with Jason Digges
Jason Digges is an absolute legend in the world of circling and authentic relating. So we were happy to have him back to discuss his journey opening up a new circling school.What makes his school different?Jason is resurrecting the Integral Circling movement. It’s also offering an affordable way to practice with plans starting at just $40 a month.📚 Check out Jason Digges’ circling school here: https://www.integralcirclingschool.comAlso, check out episodes 19 and 20 for more Jason Digges!Grow With Us 🦁 Get relational coaching with Sigh (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/radiantrelating) 🙏 Deepen your spiritual practice and attainment with Jonathan (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/coaching) Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletter Connect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook group Keep it namaste 🙏

Mar 3, 2025 • 2h 11min
Men, Shame, and Freedom with Rob Kancler
This is the second half of our series of interviews with Rob Kancler. He is a guide and spiritual teacher for men who want to become pioneers of their sexual futures. His work opens our eyes to the million myths and false narratives that bind our energies and block the full expression of who we are and what we could become.If you love this discussion, make sure to check out Episode 55.📚 Join Rob’s group work here: https://bedroomgenius.com/ Grow With Us 🦁 Get relational coaching with Sigh (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/radiantrelating) 🙏 Deepen your spiritual practice and attainment with Jonathan (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/coaching) Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletter Connect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook group Keep it namaste 🙏

Feb 17, 2025 • 1h 28min
Solving Social Media with Jordan Myska Allen
We all know social media is broken. Jordan Myska Allen and the team at UpTrust are trying to fix that.How? They’re integrating insights from the relational arts as well as enormous, civilization-wide considerations of how trust works and how people keep an open mind.It might be the first-ever high-consciousness social media platform. And you can become a part of it by joining the waitlist.📚 Sign up for the waitlist here! (http://uptrusting.com/join-waitlist)**Note** we will return to the second part of our mega-discussion with Rob Kancler in two weeks. We needed to rush this episode out so people could get on the waitlist!Grow With Us 🦁 Get relational coaching with Sigh (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/radiantrelating) 🙏 Deepen your spiritual practice and attainment with Jonathan (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/coaching) Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletter Connect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook group Keep it namaste 🙏

Feb 3, 2025 • 2h 7min
Sexual Mysticism with Rob Kancler
Rob Kancler guides men to become pioneers of their sexual futures. His work opens our eyes to the million myths and false narratives that bind our energies and block the full expression of who we are and what we could become.Plus, he’s a great conversationalist.In this long episode, we talk about all kinds of topics related to sexuality, the body, and reaching mystical states through union. Our next episode will bring you more Rob Kancler, so if you love this, just wait for your second serving!📚 Join Rob’s group work here: https://ihatenothavinggreatsexallthetime.com/ Grow With Us 🦁 Get relational coaching with Sigh (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/radiantrelating) 🙏 Deepen your spiritual practice and attainment with Jonathan (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/coaching) Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletter Connect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook group Keep it namaste 🙏

Jan 20, 2025 • 1h 30min
The Science of OBEs (out of body experiences) with Marina Weiler
Marina Weiler is an Assistant Professor of Psychiatry and Neurobehavioral Sciences in the UVA Division of Perceptual Studies.That’s one way to say that she scientifically studies out-of-body experiences (or OBEs). This research is deeply confronting to a purely materialist view of the world, and it helps us understand better how consciousness works.Anyone who has circled for an extended period of time has likely induced an OBE (or something like it) in the practice. Even if you haven’t, you’ve probably had some kind of experience that seriously undermines the idea that consciousness is simply something made by the brain.We brought on Marina Weiler to teach us about her work and then, in typical Container fashion, we give her an opportunity to go into her full view of the universe.📚 Check out the Division of Perceptual Studies at UVA! (https://med.virginia.edu/perceptual-studies/)Grow With Us 🦁 Get relational coaching with Sigh (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/radiantrelating) 🙏 Deepen your spiritual practice and attainment with Jonathan (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/coaching) Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletter Connect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook group Keep it namaste 🙏

Jan 6, 2025 • 2h 2min
Relatefulness with Jordan Myska Allen
Jordan Myska Allen. He pioneered many fundamental practices in the art of circling and authentic relating—and he coined an entirely new paradigm to file this work under: Relatefulness.And his organization (the Relateful Company in Austin, Texas) is the leading center of the relational arts in the United States. We talk about this thing of ours, with Jordan pushing us to go beyond the axioms and maxims that guide the practice for most of us. Instead, he pursues a radical interrogation of everything, willing to circle even the sacred cows of “Welcome Everything” and… as we will see right away… what dropping in could even mean.Whether you are new to circling or have been wading in the deep waters of transformational connection for decades, this conversation will connect you to the spiritual core of the practice.📚 Check out the Relateful Company here! (www.relateful.com)Grow With Us 🦁 Get relational coaching with Sigh (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/radiantrelating) 🙏 Deepen your spiritual practice and attainment with Jonathan (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/coaching) Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletter Connect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook group Keep it namaste 🙏

Dec 23, 2024 • 1h 29min
Practice & Ritual with Scout Rainer Wiley
In our final episode of the Advent season, we welcome the luminous Scout Rainer Wiley—mystical writer, ritual artist, and contemplative spirit. Known for her ability to weave esoteric wisdom with grounded, real-world insights, Scout takes us on a journey through her reflections on writing, living a sacred life, the importance of ritual, and how natural disasters (even a hurricane) can serve as an emergent ritual ordeal for an entire community.📚 Check out Scout's website here! (https://scoutrainerwiley.com/)📰 Read her Substack here! (https://hyperphantasiia.substack.com/)Grow With Us 🦁 Get relational coaching with Sigh (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/radiantrelating) 🙏 Deepen your spiritual practice and attainment with Jonathan (https://www.thecontainerpod.com/coaching) Support Our Work📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review🙌 Become a patron on Patreon💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletter Connect and Learn More About the Relational Arts🖥️ Our website (www.thecontainerpod.com) 📺 Our YouTube (www.youtube.com/@TheContainerPod) 👥 Our Facebook group Keep it namaste 🙏
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