
The Modern Customer Podcast
Go behind the scenes with customer experience leader Blake Morgan to explore the secrets of the world’s most customer-centric companies.
Blake is one of the world’s top keynote speakers, authority on customer experience and the bestselling author of “The Customer Of The Future” The Modern Customer reaches thousands of people each week conveying a message of how we make people feel - in business and in life - matters. Her weekly show explores how businesses can make customers’ lives easier and better, featuring experts that provide simple, tangible advice you can immediately apply at your own organization.
Today’s customers have the luxury of choice. The answer is simple; choose customer experience and customers will choose you. Learn how to put a stake in the ground on customer experience by tuning into The Modern Customer Podcast each week with Blake Morgan.
Latest episodes

Jan 31, 2023 • 30min
The Business Case for CX: How to Make it a Priority in Your Organization
To people in the trenches every day, the impact a positive customer experience has on the bottom line is clear. But proving that business case to executives and other teams is a common challenge for CX teams. Diane O’Hara, SVP of Customer Advocacy and Insights at CVS Health, represents the consumer at the table of a Fortune 4 company by collecting customer data, analyzing operational data, and working with business units to find the biggest opportunities to deliver a top-tier customer experience. Blake Morgan is a customer experience futurist, keynote speaker, and author of the bestselling book The Customer Of The Future.

Jan 24, 2023 • 31min
TrueCar's Approach to Digital Customer Journey Mapping
Most customers don’t come into the car buying process knowing exactly what they want. In fact, many customers find the experience overwhelming and nerve-wracking. Easing those fears and delivering a personalized and convenient experience starts with knowing where customers are on their journey. That’s where detailed customer journey mapping comes in to help brands understand the unique needs of their customers and provide relevant, empathetic service. Beth Mach, Chief Consumer Officer at TrueCar Inc., says it’s crucial to understand the highs and lows of the entire customer experience. Blake Morgan is a customer experience futurist, keynote speaker, and author of the bestselling book The Customer Of The Future.

Jan 17, 2023 • 21min
Visa Global Head of Fraud Services Michael Jabbara Shares His Views on the Future of Cybersecurity
Cybersecurity and fraud have long been a part of the modern online experience. Every time a customer interacts or transacts with a brand online, they share sensitive data that has the potential to fall into the wrong hands. But the last few years have taken fraud to the next level, meaning that every company needs to prioritize protecting their customers. Blake Morgan is a customer experience futurist, keynote speaker, and author of the bestselling book The Customer Of The Future.

Jan 10, 2023 • 39min
The WAYS CX Framework
The customer of the future is here. Is your company ready? The last few years have caused consumers to re-evaluate their purpose and what they value in life. With new priorities, many customers are changing brands and thinking differently about their relationships with brands. Customer experience is a decision everyone in your company needs to make every day. When you invest in making your customers’ lives easier and better, you set your company up for long-term success and loyalty. Creating a customer-centric mindset means deciding every day to put customers first. There are four ways to do that, which follow my WAYS framework. Blake Morgan is a customer experience futurist, keynote speaker, and author of the bestselling book The Customer Of The Future.

Jan 3, 2023 • 17min
What Southwest Airlines Could Have Done Better This Christmas
If a company wants to be customer-centric and operate in the experience economy, they have to succeed in two areas; psychological and technological. If a company has the right culture, then investing in the technology that empowers employees is a no brainer. But when a founder-CEO who has the vision leaves the company and passes it on to an accountant - that loss of vision can hurt the company. Gary Kelly is arguably to blame for lacking Southwest Airlines’ runway vision - and it has culminated in a very public PR nightmare. Blake Morgan is a customer experience futurist, keynote speaker, and author of the bestselling book The Customer Of The Future.

Dec 20, 2022 • 28min
How Saks' CMO Creates a Customer-Driven Approach to Digital
There’s no doubt that the future of retail is digital. And now, Saks is doubling down on that theory by spinning off its digital and e-commerce presence to create a separate entity from its physical stores. CMO Emily Essner says that the experience for customers hasn’t changed, but spinning off the digital arm allows Saks to solidify its investment in the future of digital in an increasingly complex world. The digital-specific business can focus solely on growing an omnichannel experience without other distractions. Blake Morgan is a customer experience futurist, keynote speaker, and author of the bestselling book The Customer Of The Future.

Dec 13, 2022 • 16min
Are We Witnessing The End Of The Streaming Wars?
For years, the streaming wars dominated as more customers cut the cord on cable, new streaming services popped up to challenge Netflix, and an incredible amount of original content was produced. But the days of streaming wars are over. Customers are overrun by so many streaming services when all they want to do is watch quality shows. Netflix subscribers have flattened in recent years, and Disney+ seems to be the clear winner. In today’s experience economy, customers want incredible content. They are looking for escapism, and the company that can provide the right balance of entertainment and value will come out on top. So, what comes next for streaming? Blake Morgan is a customer experience futurist, keynote speaker, and author of the bestselling book The Customer Of The Future.

Dec 6, 2022 • 28min
How To Use Both/And Thinking To Balance Long-Term Vision With Short-Term Customer Service
Customer experience professionals face countless balancing acts: do you focus on digital or in-person experiences? Employee experience or customer experience? Build out the contact center or move to self-service options? But perhaps the biggest question is this: Do you focus on long-term strategic vision or short-term customer service? Wendy Smith, author of BOTH/AND THINKING: Embracing Creative Tensions to Solve Your Toughest Problems, says the answer is in changing from an either/or approach to a both/and way of thinking. Instead of feeling you have to choose just one solution, you can embrace the creative tension of both ideas. Blake Morgan is a customer experience futurist, keynote speaker, and author of the bestselling book The Customer Of The Future.

Nov 29, 2022 • 24min
Driverless Cars With A Customer Focus: Inside Cruise’s Growth
In a competitive industry driven (quite literally) by robots, Cruise stands out because of its focus on humans. The autonomous vehicle arm of GM thrives where many others have fallen because of a singular focus on driving innovation for customers and saving lives. Chief Communications Officer Kristine Boyden says a deep commitment to the mission of changing a broken status quo keeps employees engaged in the work and driven to produce great results. Blake Morgan is a customer experience futurist, keynote speaker, and author of the bestselling book The Customer Of The Future.

Nov 22, 2022 • 15min
6 Ways To Show Customers You're Grateful This Holiday Season
Tis the season to show gratitude. But do your customers feel your appreciation? Customers can tell when brands are excited about their business. But on the other side, customers can also tell when they aren’t valued or supported by a brand. Customers are your reason for being in business. They are central to your success, so show your gratitude. This holiday season, share your appreciation with customers through words and actions. In this episode, we'll go over six ways to show customers you’re grateful for them.