
The Modern Customer Podcast
Go behind the scenes with customer experience leader Blake Morgan to explore the secrets of the world’s most customer-centric companies.
Blake is one of the world’s top keynote speakers, authority on customer experience and the bestselling author of “The Customer Of The Future” The Modern Customer reaches thousands of people each week conveying a message of how we make people feel - in business and in life - matters. Her weekly show explores how businesses can make customers’ lives easier and better, featuring experts that provide simple, tangible advice you can immediately apply at your own organization.
Today’s customers have the luxury of choice. The answer is simple; choose customer experience and customers will choose you. Learn how to put a stake in the ground on customer experience by tuning into The Modern Customer Podcast each week with Blake Morgan.
Latest episodes

May 20, 2025 • 23min
Powering 7.5 Million Customer Relationships: How NRG is Redefining Energy Experience
How do you lead customer experience in an industry most people overlook? This week on The Modern Customer Podcast, Suzie Dieth, Chief Experience Officer at NRG, shares how her team is reshaping the way 7.5 million customers experience energy. She explains how NRG blends smart home tech, AI, and cross-functional teamwork to create personalized, proactive experiences that build trust, even in a space customers rarely think about. Key topics in this episode: ✅ Making customer experience visible in a behind-the-scenes industry ✅ A hub-and-spoke model for company-wide CX ownership ✅ Using AI to support agents and solve complex issues ✅ Leading cultural transformation post-acquisition 🎧 If you’re building CX in essential services, utilities, or complex industries, this episode is packed with insight and inspiration. This episode is sponsored by SCAYLE, the flexible and scalable eCommerce platform built to grow enterprise brands pain-free. Visit www.scayle.com to learn more Blake Morgan is a customer experience futurist, keynote speaker, and author of three books on customer experience. Her new book is called The 8 Laws of Customer-Focused Leadership: The New Rules for Building A Business Around Today’s Customer. Follow Blake Morgan on LinkedIn For regular updates on customer experience, sign up for her weekly newsletter here.

May 13, 2025 • 33min
How AI Powers Science, the Workplace, and Real-World Impact
What happens when AI becomes part of everyone’s job, from the research lab to daily workflows? In this episode of The Modern Customer Podcast, I speak with Brice Challamel, VP of AI Products & Innovation at Moderna, about how AI is transforming the way science, work, and care come together. We explore: ✅ How AI accelerates mRNA drug development ✅ How it boosts workplace creativity and smarter decision-making ✅ How it empowers caregivers to act with confidence ✅ What leaders must do to guide responsible adoption at scale Moderna’s approach shows what it really looks like to put AI into practice across science, the workplace, and human experience. 👉 Tune in now to hear how AI moves from pilot to impact. This episode is sponsored by Scayle—the flexible, scalable eCommerce platform built to grow enterprise brands—pain-free. Visit www.scayle.com to learn more Blake Morgan is a customer experience futurist, keynote speaker, and author of three books on customer experience. Her new book is called The 8 Laws of Customer-Focused Leadership: The New Rules for Building A Business Around Today’s Customer. Follow Blake Morgan on LinkedIn For regular updates on customer experience, sign up for her weekly newsletter here.

May 6, 2025 • 8min
The AI Powering 5 Billion Customer Resolutions—and the Future It’s Creating for Service
What does it take to power 5 billion customer resolutions a year—with speed, empathy, and zero shortcuts? At Zendesk, AI plays a central role. It learns from massive data, follows clear rules, and helps teams make service feel more human. On this episode of The Modern Customer Podcast, I speak with Shashi Upadhyay, President of Products, Engineering, and AI at Zendesk, about how they’re building AI that scales globally and enhances every human interaction it touches. 🎧 Listen in for: ◦ Why AI needs guardrails, not guesswork ◦ The “smart intern” approach to responsible AI ◦ How Zendesk blends automation with emotional intelligence This is how great service gets smarter, faster and more human. Don’t miss this short, smart conversation on AI that works. Blake Morgan is a customer experience futurist, keynote speaker, and author of three books on customer experience. Her new book is called The 8 Laws of Customer-Focused Leadership: The New Rules for Building A Business Around Today’s Customer. Follow Blake Morgan on LinkedIn For regular updates on customer experience, sign up for her weekly newsletter here.

Apr 29, 2025 • 12min
Reimagining Healthcare Experience Through Feedback and AI
The future of healthcare isn’t just digital—it’s deeply human. And AI is helping make that possible. This week on The Modern Customer Podcast, Heather Brace, Chief People Officer at Intermountain Health, shares how her team is transforming both patient and employee experience. By combining the power of AI with real-time employee feedback, they’re building a more connected, responsive, and human-centered healthcare system. In this conversation, Heather shares: ✔️ How AI is helping doctors stay present and build trust with patients ✔️ Why transparent feedback is reshaping leadership culture ✔️ What it takes to create an experience-first organization at scale This episode is packed with insight for leaders who believe technology should enhance empathy, not replace it. 🎧 Tune in to learn how feedback and AI are reshaping healthcare from the inside out. Blake Morgan is a customer experience futurist, keynote speaker, and author of three books on customer experience. Her new book is called The 8 Laws of Customer-Focused Leadership: The New Rules for Building A Business Around Today’s Customer. Follow Blake Morgan on LinkedIn For regular updates on customer experience, sign up for her weekly newsletter here.

Apr 22, 2025 • 18min
Why Most AI in CX Is Missing the Mark—and What Comes Next
Most AI chatbots are built to answer FAQs—but that only solves a fraction of the problem. According to Deon Nicholas, founder of Forethought, just 23% of support inquiries are informational. The other 77% require action—like account lookups, password resets, and policy decisions. That’s where most GenAI tools fall short—and where agentic AI steps in. On the latest episode of The Modern Customer Podcast, recorded live at the Qualtrics X4 Summit, Deon and I go rapid-fire on the future of AI in CX and EX. We cover: ✅ Why most chatbots can't handle the majority of real-world support needs ✅ What agentic AI is—and why it's reshaping customer experience ✅ How to personalize at scale without compromising trust ✅ What proactive AI looks like—and why it's the next evolution If you're serious about using AI to drive real CX results, this episode is packed with insight you can’t afford to miss. 🎧 Ready to rethink your AI strategy? Listen to the full episode now! Blake Morgan is a customer experience futurist, keynote speaker, and author of three books on customer experience. Her new book is called The 8 Laws of Customer-Focused Leadership: The New Rules for Building A Business Around Today’s Customer. Follow Blake Morgan on LinkedIn For regular updates on customer experience, sign up for her weekly newsletter here.

Apr 15, 2025 • 12min
How Creative Thinking Unlocks the True Power of AI in CX
The missing piece in AI-powered CX? Creative thinking. This week on The Modern Customer Podcast, I’m joined by Zendesk CTO Adrian McDermott, live from the Zendesk Relate conference in Las Vegas. We explore why AI alone isn’t enough—and how customer experience leaders must pair technology with imagination to drive meaningful innovation. Inside the episode: ✔️ RAG: The new standard for self-service ✔️ Agent co-pilots that reduce training time ✔️ Smarter automation that actually delivers 🎧 Listen now and let me know how you’re combining creativity with AI in your own work. Blake Morgan is a customer experience futurist, keynote speaker, and author of three books on customer experience. Her new book is called The 8 Laws of Customer-Focused Leadership: The New Rules for Building A Business Around Today’s Customer. Follow Blake Morgan on LinkedIn For regular updates on customer experience, sign up for her weekly newsletter here.

Apr 8, 2025 • 22min
The $1.3 Trillion CX Opportunity: It Starts with Creative AI Leadership
According to a new Qualtrics + McKinsey report, organizations that effectively use AI to enhance CX could unlock between $860 billion and $1.3 trillion in annual value. On the latest episode of The Modern Customer Podcast, I speak with Isabelle Zdatny, Head of Thought Leadership at Qualtrics, live from the X4 conference. We dive into what this research means for CX leaders navigating AI transformation. Key insights from the report: 77% of executives say CX is a top strategic priority 72% believe AI will fundamentally reshape CX within three years Yet only 12% have a coordinated AI strategy Only 15% of executives feel ready to lead AI transformation in their industry This conversation is a must-listen for CX leaders looking to move beyond pilots, connect AI to business outcomes, and build creative strategies that scale. Listen to the episode and download the full report for a clear roadmap to unlocking CX value through AI: https://www.qualtrics.com/news/qualtrics-report-executives-are-hesitant-to-lead-in-ai-transformation-putting-up-to-1-3-trillion-at-risk/ Blake Morgan is a customer experience futurist, keynote speaker, and author of three books on customer experience. Her new book is called The 8 Laws of Customer-Focused Leadership: The New Rules for Building A Business Around Today’s Customer. Follow Blake Morgan on LinkedIn For regular updates on customer experience, sign up for her weekly newsletter here.

Apr 3, 2025 • 12min
Agentic AI, Customer Resolution, and the Future of Zendesk’s CX Vision
In the latest episode of The Modern Customer Podcast, Tom Eggemeier, CEO of Zendesk, shares what’s next for CX—and why the future is all about outcomes, not tickets. The conversation explores Zendesk’s new Resolution Platform and the real-world impact of Agentic AI. Key takeaways include: ✅ The shift from interactions to real resolution ✅ Agentic AI that acts, adapts, and anticipates ✅ A business model that only wins if customers do ✅ The 3 biggest CX shifts redefining loyalty, automation, and the human touch If you're thinking about where customer experience is headed, this episode offers a clear and optimistic view of what’s possible. 🎧 Tune in now! Blake Morgan is a customer experience futurist, keynote speaker, and author of three books on customer experience. Her new book is called The 8 Laws of Customer-Focused Leadership: The New Rules for Building A Business Around Today’s Customer. Follow Blake Morgan on LinkedIn For regular updates on customer experience, sign up for her weekly newsletter here.

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Apr 1, 2025 • 32min
What Drives Customers to Buy—And What Holds Them Back
Jeff Shore, a seasoned sales strategist and founder of Shore Consulting, unpacks the emotional mechanics that drive customer behavior. He highlights how understanding buyer psychology can reduce friction in sales processes. Listeners will learn about key motivators beyond money, the importance of addressing emotional dissatisfaction, and strategies to create urgency in purchasing decisions. Additionally, Shore discusses how effective salespeople leverage emotional intelligence to connect with customers, ensuring smoother transactions.

Mar 25, 2025 • 18min
Inside Walmart’s EX Strategy: How 2.1 Million Associates Are Powering CX Innovation
This week on The Modern Customer Podcast, I sat down in person with Donna Morris, EVP and Chief People Officer at Walmart, live from the Qualtrics X4 event in Salt Lake City. We explored how Walmart is using technology, AI, and a deep focus on people to rethink employee experience at scale—and what that means for customers. If you lead CX, EX, or digital transformation, this episode is packed with insights you can use. 🎧 Don’t miss this powerful conversation with one of the world’s most influential HR leaders. Blake Morgan is a customer experience futurist, keynote speaker, and author of three books on customer experience. Her new book is called The 8 Laws of Customer-Focused Leadership: The New Rules for Building A Business Around Today’s Customer. Follow Blake Morgan on LinkedIn For regular updates on customer experience, sign up for her weekly newsletter here.