
World Class
Podcast from the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies (FSI) at Stanford University, featuring Director Michael McFaul, former U.S. Ambassador to Russia. Mike and our scholars dive into critical international issues, offering insights into the history and context of the biggest stories in the news.
Latest episodes

Jun 15, 2018 • 26min
Former Ambassadors Kathleen Stephens and Michael McFaul on the North Korea Summit
Kim Jong-un and Donald Trump met in Singapore on June 12th, and everyone is still working to make sense of the meeting. What led up to this meeting, what are the key takeaways from the summit itself, and what can we expect going forward? Former South Korean Ambassador Kathleen Stephens, who is also the William J. Perry Fellow at FSI’s Shorenstein Asia-Pacific Research Center at FSI, joins FSI Director Michael McFaul to offer her candid analysis of everything that unfolded, and what to watch for next.
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Jun 8, 2018 • 23min
What if "the people" are a threat to democracy?
What exactly is populism and why is it suddenly everywhere? Are the different movements around the world connected to each other, or are they popping up independently? What are the underlying conditions that give rise to populism, and what risks does it present to democracy?
Anna Gryzmala-Busse is a senior fellow at FSI and the new director of our Europe Center. Together with Michael McFaul and Frank Fukuyama, Gryzmala-Busse recently launched a project to study and report on populist movements. In this conversation with FSI director Michael McFaul, Gryzmala-Busse outlines some of the reasons populism is on the rise, why the current wave is ultimately about the breakdown of political parties, and what we can expect from the current populist movement in America.
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Jun 1, 2018 • 28min
Larry Diamond with Cambodian Human Rights Activist Mu Sochua
Fears are growing that Cambodia is coming under authoritarian rule. Prime Minister Hun Sen, the world’s longest-serving government leader, has dissolved the opposition party and started arresting its leadership in September 2017. Deputy opposition leader and human rights activist Mu Sochua, fearing imprisonment herself, went into exile last October. In this conversation with FSI senior fellow Larry Diamond, she talks about how Cambodia has changed the since the time Khmer Rouge genocide, how events on the ground are unfolding, and what steps she hopes the US and other governments will take in order to put Cambodia back on a path towards democracy.
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May 25, 2018 • 26min
From Cold War to Hot Peace: Michael McFaul on his new book
Michael McFaul, director of FSI, former US ambassador to Russia, and host of World Class, has a new book out. It's called From Cold War to Hot Peace, and it offers an unparalleled perspective on US–Russia relations. In this conversation with FSI's deputy director Kathryn Stoner, herself a Russia expert who has co-authored two books with Amb. McFaul, he shares the story of how he first became interested in Russia, his experiences during his time as ambassador, and why he's still optimistic that someday US–Russia relations will improve.
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May 18, 2018 • 37min
Sir Nick Clegg on Brexit, with host Gerhard Casper
Is it too late to stop Brexit? As the deadline for exiting approaches, what are the pros and cons of trying to halt Brexit at this late juncture? Regardless of what happens, what might we expect for the future relationship between the United Kingdom and the European Union? In this conversation Sir Nick Clegg, former Deputy Prime Minister from 2010-2015, sits down with former Stanford president and senior fellow at FSI, Gerhard Casper, to talk about how we got here – and what lies ahead.
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May 11, 2018 • 26min
Armenia's new leadership: How did we get here?
Armenia is in a state of transition. Peaceful protests led by Nikol Pashinyan have dislodged Serzh Sargsyan from his seat of power, and suddenly the country looks poised for dramatic change. Is this a grassroots movement, or are outside forces pulling the strings? What's the role of social media in all this? And why now, exactly? To take stock of these fast moving developments, we're joined by FSI's Sarah Shirazyan and Yeghishe Kirakosyan of the Stanford Law School for perspective and what to watch as the story unfolds.
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May 4, 2018 • 24min
Turbulence in Taiwan
Since the 1980s, Taiwan has been a model of democracy in East Asia, but there are challenges on the horizon. Domestically, Taiwan is experiencing slow economic growth and a polarized electorate. Meanwhile across the region leaders are navigating tensions on the Korean peninsula, disputes in the South China Sea, and the possibility of a US-China trade war. In this conversation, former president of Taiwan Ma Ying-jeou talks with Professor Francis Fukuyama about all these issues, as well as the future of Taiwan's relationship with China.
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Apr 27, 2018 • 36min
Democracy at Risk in Kenya
Kenya is in a state of polarization, and its democracy is at risk. Maina Kiai was the United Nations Special Rapporteur on the rights to freedom of peaceful assembly and of association from 2011 – 2017, and in this conversation with FSI's Larry Diamond he discusses Kenya’s 2017 disputed presidential election. The stakes are high. As Kiai wrote last year, "Elections in Kenya are not a civil political competition; they are an all-out contest for power and resources." The growing democratic recession in Africa may be undermining the country's electoral democracy.
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Apr 20, 2018 • 21min
How do you stop a pandemic in the middle of a war? on "World Class with Michael McFaul"
When we think of health in conflict zones, we usually think of the victims of violence. But more people can die due to other healthcare disruptions than they do from combat wounds. War-torn states are vulnerable to malnutrition, contaminated water, and – most terrifying – outbreaks such as Ebola and Zika. If physicians can't do their work, the wrong set of conditions could set off a global pandemic. What lessons can we draw from the past few years, and what steps are we taking now to be ready for the next inevitable outbreak?
Michele Barry and Paul Wise are two of the eight FSI scholars confronting civil war threats with the "Civil Wars, Violence, and International Responses" project. Supported by the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, FSI's Karl Eikenberry and Stephen Krasner gathered experts from around the world to talk about changing international policy to meet these new challenges. We will be speaking with each of the scholars about how civil wars are changing, how they might affect the rest of the world, and what we can do about it. To learn more about the project, check out the fall 2017 and winter 2018 issues of Daedalus, the journal of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, and the outreach projects Eikenberry and Krasner are embarking on around the world: www.amacad.org/content/Research/…ject.aspx?d=22262.
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Apr 13, 2018 • 59min
Why Can’t We Feed the World?
Dealing with world hunger has never been easy, but in recent years the challenge has less to do with natural disasters and much more to do with human conflict. In this lecture, Ertharin Cousin, former director of the World Food Programme and a visiting scholar at FSI’s Center on Food Security and the Environment, reflects on her experiences and identifies key strategies for helping to end world hunger.
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