

World Class
Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies, Stanford University
Podcast from the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies (FSI) at Stanford University, featuring Director Michael McFaul, former U.S. Ambassador to Russia. Mike and our scholars dive into critical international issues, offering insights into the history and context of the biggest stories in the news.
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Nov 16, 2018 • 24min
How Do We Stop a Man-Made Pandemic? with David Relman and Megan Palmer
Biosecurity threats are often overlooked. For years scientists have been saying that the world is overdue for a pandemic, and there's an ongoing risk that terrorists or nation states might weaponize diseases. If that's not worrying enough, the risks of pandemics increase as climate change worsens. What steps are we taking to understand and prepare for the next outbreak?
David Relman is a senior fellow and Megan Palmer a senior research scholar at FSI’s Center for International Security and Cooperation. They are part of an interdisciplinary research initiative working to assess the threats posed by biological agents. In this wide-ranging conversation with Michael McFaul, Relman and Palmer unpack the complex issues, and offer their perspectives on how best to counter these threats.
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Nov 6, 2018 • 22min
Colin Kahl on Khashoggi and Where the US Stands with Saudi Arabia
It is now clear that the murder of Washington Post journalist Jamal Khashoggi at the Saudi embassy in Turkey was a pre-planned execution, likely ordered by people at the very top of the Saudi government. The incident has sparked an international outcry, and raises questions about the US’s relationship with the Saudis. What is the underlying nature of the US-Saudi alliance? How has Trump's strategy differed from Obama’s, and what impact might all of this have on relations with Iran and elsewhere across the Middle East?
Colin Kahl was deputy assistant to President Obama and a national security advisor to Vice President Biden from 2014 to 2017. He’s now the co-director of FSI’s Center for International Security and Cooperation, and the head of its Middle East Initiative. In this discussion with Michael McFaul, Kahl outlines the unease some American diplomats feel towards our relationship with Saudi Arabia. He explains steps that President Obama took to restructure the alliance, and he argues that President Trump’s decision to double-down in Saudi Arabia has narrowed the options for responding to an increasingly fractured relationship.
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Nov 2, 2018 • 22min
Ambassador Eileen Donahoe on Digital Threats to the Midterm Elections
With the US midterms fast approaching, we are still trying to make sense of everything that happened in the 2016 elections. What do we now know about vulnerabilities in our democratic processes? What risks do we face from foreign adversaries? Beyond the US, how are governments around the world adjusting to threats posed by digital technologies?
Eileen Donahoe was the first US Ambassador to the United Nations Human Rights Council during the Obama Administration. She’s now the Executive Director for the Global Digital Policy Incubator at FSI. Her current research focuses on cyber sovereignty, digital literacy, election security, protecting freedom of expression, and the impact of AI. In this conversation with Michael McFaul, Ambassador Donahoe frames the various threats posed by digital technologies, and the implications for the midterm elections.
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Oct 19, 2018 • 23min
Francis Fukuyama Explains Identity Politics
“Identity politics" has become a driving force in political conversations in the U.S. and abroad, but what exactly is it? Where did it come from, and how will it shape the future of our society? FSI Olivier Nomellini Senior Fellow and CDDRL Mosbacher Director Francis Fukuyama joins host Michael McFaul to explain how his new book, “Identity: The Demand for Dignity and the Politics of Resentment,” sheds light on these questions and reveals how our political trajectory from the civil rights era to 21st century populism has been shaped by a universal human desire for respect and recognition.
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Oct 5, 2018 • 24min
Improving Black Men's Health in a Single Step
African American men have the lowest life expectancy of any major demographic group in the U.S. The reasons for this are many and complex, but new research from FSI's Stanford Health Policy suggests that there may be a straightforward solution: hiring doctors who look like the patients they're treating. Dr. Marcella Alsan, an associate professor of medicine at Stanford Health Policy, and her research partner, Dr. Owen Garrick, President and CEO of Bridge Clinical Research, join host Michael McFaul to discuss the reasons behind the health disparities for African American men; the theory, ethics and outcomes of their study; and what their findings should mean for the future of health care.
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Sep 12, 2018 • 1h 23min
Who Won the Trump-Kim Summit?
President Trump says the nuclear threat is behind us, but do the experts agree? Gi-Wook Shin, Scott Sagan, Kathleen Stephens, and Michael McFaul tell us about the winners and losers from the 2018 U.S.-North Korean Summit, what we should worry about, what denuclearization really means, and the eternal question: what comes next?
Kathleen Stephens is the former U.S. ambassador to South Korea and a William J. Perry fellow at FSI. Scott Sagan has authored many books and articles on nuclear weapons as a senior fellow at FSI’s Center for International Security and Cooperation. Gi-Wook Shin founded the Korea Program at FSI’s Shorenstein Asia-Pacific Research Center, which he directs. In addition to hosting World Class, Michael McFaul is the former U.S. ambassador to Russia and current director of FSI.
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Aug 3, 2018 • 22min
Michael McFaul: When Geopolitics Gets Personal
What’s it like to have a dictator after you? In the wake of Vladimir Putin’s “request” to interrogate former ambassador and World Class host Michael McFaul, the US public backlash was swift and strong. It’s extremely unlikely that McFaul will be asked to respond to Russian investigators - but many Americans were unnerved at the Trump administration’s response. Where do US-Russia relations stand in the aftermath of Helsinki? What are the practical implications for McFaul, and what will be the lasting impact for transgressing the diplomatic norms? Michael McFaul addresses all these questions in this candid conversation.
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Jul 27, 2018 • 20min
How to Make a New Country
It's not so easy to create a whole new country, and the world map is much more fixed than it used to be. While there are many secessionist and independence movements around the globe, the truth is that international powers are extremely reluctant to redraw borders. Where are the unrecognized states in the world, and what commonalities do they share? What happens when our normal understanding of "sovereignty" breaks down? In this conversation with FSI Deputy Director Kathryn Stoner, Joshua Keating shares stories from his new book, Invisible Countries: Journey’s to the Edge of Nationhood. Keating is a foreign policy analyst and a staff writer at Slate.
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Jul 20, 2018 • 22min
A Democracy Divided: The Roots of our Political Polarization
The gulf between right and left in America is widening by the day. How long has this been going on, and what can we learn by studying other Western democracies? Didi Kuo is an expert on democratization and political parties. She's a research scholar at the Center on Democracy, Development, and the Rule of Law at FSI, and she has a new book called, Clientelism, Capitalism, and Democracy: The Rise of Programmatic Politics in the United States and Britain.
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Jul 13, 2018 • 25min
When Your Government Doesn’t Want to Govern
The Venezuelan economy is disintegrating, yet president Nicolas Maduro has thus far been successful in squashing his political opposition. How has Maduro been able to remain in power, and what's the best-case scenario for Venezuela's future? We're joined today by Harold Trinkunas to examine the situation in Venezuela since the death of Hugo Chavez. Later in the conversation we also talk with Trinkunas about his book, Militants, Criminals, and Warlords: The Challenge of Local Governance in an Age of Disorder.
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