

The Body of Evidence
Dr. Christopher Labos
Dr. Christopher Labos and guests use the body of evidence to go beyond science and medicine headlines and hype. All to help you develop your critical thinking skills so that when you google your symptoms, you won't believe you're going to die tomorrow.
The Body of Evidence is your weekly dose of clarity on complex health topics and the often-sketchy medical information found online. Hosted by cardiologist Dr. Christopher Labos and featuring a rotating cast of co-hosts and guests, this podcast brings you engaging interviews, original reporting, and humour-filled commentaries to help you navigate the world of medicine. Episodes tackle everything from debunking misinformation to exploring the reality of certain conditions to the effectiveness of social media medical trends. With an extensive archive dating back to 2015,The Body of Evidence is your go-to source for understanding science and medicine and developing critical thinking about your health.
The Body of Evidence is your weekly dose of clarity on complex health topics and the often-sketchy medical information found online. Hosted by cardiologist Dr. Christopher Labos and featuring a rotating cast of co-hosts and guests, this podcast brings you engaging interviews, original reporting, and humour-filled commentaries to help you navigate the world of medicine. Episodes tackle everything from debunking misinformation to exploring the reality of certain conditions to the effectiveness of social media medical trends. With an extensive archive dating back to 2015,The Body of Evidence is your go-to source for understanding science and medicine and developing critical thinking about your health.
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Dec 22, 2019 • 1h 6min
Interview - Trysha Gellis and Jacqueline Joza on CPR and Sudden Cardiac Arrest
One day, Trysha Gellis' heart just stopped pumping blood. She lost consciousness and almost died… but CPR saved her life. Today, we hear her story and our medical experts explain what doctors do to investigate what went wrong with her heart on that day. Thankfully, it involves cute anesthesiologists. * Theme music: "Troll of the Mountain Swing" by the Underscore Orkestra. To contribute to The Body of Evidence, go to our Patreon page at: http://www.patreon.com/thebodyofevidence/. Patrons get a bonus show on Patreon called "Digressions"! Check it out! References: 1) Living Proof CPR Training: https://www.livingproofcpr.com 2) Heart and Stroke Foundation of Canada's CPR Videos: https://www.heartandstroke.ca/get-involved/learn-cpr

Dec 8, 2019 • 1h 6min
056 - Drinking Water and Olivier Bernard
Drinking water: alkaline, thirst, bottled, lead // Interview with Olivier Bernard (thepharmafist.com) on vitamin C, harassment, and winning the John Maddox Prize // Vaping update: EVALI and popcorn lung * Vox pop by Sarah Swinwood * Jingle by Jillian Correia of Roctavio Canada * Additional music by Seth Donnelly and Kevin MacLeod of Incompetech.com. * Theme music: "Troll of the Mountain Swing" by the Underscore Orkestra. To contribute to The Body of Evidence, go to our Patreon page at: http://www.patreon.com/thebodyofevidence/. Patrons get a bonus show on Patreon called "Digressions"! Check it out! References: 1) The JAMA study on water intake and kidney function: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2680548 2) Filter numbers: http://info.nsf.org/Certified/DWTU/listings_leadreduction.asp; http://www.nsf.org/consumer-resources/water-quality/water-filters-testing-treatment/standards-water-treatment-systems 3) Places where you can test your water in Quebec: http://www.ceaeq.gouv.qc.ca/accreditation/PALA/lla03.htm?fbclid=IwAR2u1zqvmnb03uklvROVsjCPsLqljFdUcjO2qv3tM0XMyQJhRCRzLokkCMA#outaouais 4) SWET Trial: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21324289

Nov 24, 2019 • 53min
Interview - Ourselves
Chris and Jonathan were interviewed on stage by a reporter from the McGill Tribune newspaper as part of their annual conference on journalism and the media. They discuss how they met, their respective backgrounds, the challenges of podcasting, and many more. Theme music: "Troll of the Mountain Swing" by the Underscore Orkestra. To contribute to The Body of Evidence, go to our Patreon page at: http://www.patreon.com/thebodyofevidence/.

Nov 10, 2019 • 58min
055 - Prostate Cancer and Artificial Lights
Prostate cancer: how common, how to detect it, how to treat it (should we?) // Artificial lights and sleep with Morgan Sweeney // Should we really be eating more meat now? * Vox pop by David Lonstein * Jingle by Joseph Hackl of Voodoo Jazz * Additional music by Seth Donnelly and Kevin MacLeod of Incompetech.com (including "House of Leaves"). * Theme music: "Troll of the Mountain Swing" by the Underscore Orkestra. To contribute to The Body of Evidence, go to our Patreon page at: http://www.patreon.com/thebodyofevidence/. Patrons get a bonus show on Patreon called "Digressions"! Check it out! References: 1) ERSPC randomized trial of prostate cancer screening: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=10.1016%2Fj.eururo.2012.05.068 2) ERSPC randomized trial of prostate cancer screening: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30824296 3) Quality of Life study: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1201637 4) Chemoprevention study 1, PCPT: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1215932 5) Chemoprevention study 2, REDUCE: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa0908127 6) Surgery vs. radiation vs. active surveillance: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1606220

Oct 21, 2019 • 45min
Interview - Campaign Against Phony Autism Cures
Chris and Jonathan speak to Anne Borden, Amanda Seigler, and Melissa Eaton who are campaigning against phony autism cures. 0:55 Alternative treatments for autism and why they exist 3:28 Going undercover on Facebook 5:00 MMS or the bleach cure 11:00 The pushback against activism 12:31 How social media companies have responded 14:10 Chelation therapy 23:45 Pro-science celebrities 26:00 Special diets 27:40 The medical community and applied behaviour analysis (ABA) 34:24 Humane interventions for autism To contribute to The Body of Evidence, go to our Patreon page at: http://www.patreon.com/thebodyofevidence/. The petition against toxic "cures" in the US: https://www.change.org/p/united-states-congress-bring-legislation-against-toxic-cures-in-the-united-states-eaa2029c-36c3-4d4d-97ca-08f0a06e1f84 Links: 1) Autistic Self Advocacy Network: https://autisticadvocacy.org 2) Foundations for Divergent Minds: https://www.divergentminds.org 3) Autistic Inclusive on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/autisticinclusivemeets/?eid=ARCCGmkCnb1ATBL515bePaUSQV_8izJNK01wQ1Ku9NXFjiD2a6Cs60-92t8dG3_WXfB1pUWkF23ArXuA&timeline_context_item_type=intro_card_work&timeline_context_item_source=100008073797054&fref=tag Social: 1) Melissa Eaton on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/melissa.eaton.98 2) Amanda Seigler on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amanda.seigler.3517 3) Anne Borden on Twitter: https://twitter.com/AgainstCures 4) Anne's podcast: http://noncompliantpodcast.com

Oct 6, 2019 • 1h 3min
054 - Breast Cancer Screening and Generic Drugs
Breast cancer screening: self-exams, mammograms, ductal carcinoma in situ, Angelina Jolie // The book "Bottle of Lies" and the safety of generic drugs // When cancer research misses its target * Vox pop by Morgan Sweeney * Jingle by Joseph Hackl of Voodoo Jazz * Additional music by Seth Donnelly and Kevin MacLeod of Incompetech.com. * Theme music: "Troll of the Mountain Swing" by the Underscore Orkestra. To contribute to The Body of Evidence, go to our Patreon page at: http://www.patreon.com/thebodyofevidence/. Patrons get a bonus show on Patreon called "Digressions"! Check it out! References: 1) The Malmö Study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3142562 2) The Canadian National Breast Screening Study: https://www.bmj.com/content/348/bmj.g366 3) The 2012 Lancet Study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23117178 4) The Cochrane Collaboration Review: https://www.cochrane.org/CD001877/BREASTCA_screening-for-breast-cancer-with-mammography

Sep 8, 2019 • 1h 3min
053 - Smart Drugs and Fluoride
A questionable plate of spaghetti produces something unexpected: Chris' teddy bear can now speak! Once the acid trip wears off, Jonathan and Chris discuss study aid drugs or "nootropics", like Ritalin being used by 12-year-olds to get better grades. Do these stimulants work and are there side effects? They also discuss Adderall, racetams, omega-3s, ginseng, gingko biloba, and the cocaine of Silicon Valley bros, modafinil. Also: a comprehensive look at the fluoride-and-IQ study that came out and should certain populations all get a combo pill regardless of whether individuals need it? Vox pop by Ada McVean of the McGill Office for Science and Society. Jingle by Jillian Correia of Roctavio Canada. Additional music by Seth Donnelly, Epidemic Sound, and Kevin MacLeod. Theme music: "Troll of the Mountain Swing" by the Underscore Orkestra. To contribute to The Body of Evidence, go to our Patreon page at: http://www.patreon.com/thebodyofevidence/. Patrons get a bonus show on Patreon called "Digressions"! Check it out! LINKS: The Body of Evidence video on ear candles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GfunNxHHkw Fluoride and IQ study: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2748634 REFERENCES: FDA warning letter against nootropics: https://www.fda.gov/inspections-compliance-enforcement-and-criminal-inve... Ritalin and academic performance: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29353323 https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/06/study-ritalin-doesnt-... Health Canada warning on modafinil https://healthycanadians.gc.ca/recall-alert-rappel-avis/hc-sc/2019/70201... Cochrane reviews on omega-3s, gingko, and ginseng:https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD007986.pub2/...https://www.cochrane.org/CD003120/DEMENTIA_there-is-no-convincing-eviden...https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD007769.pub2/...

Aug 18, 2019 • 1h 3min
Special - The Healthcare System
Chris and Jonathan discuss "the" healthcare system and how medicine is being practiced, with all its flaws and needs for improvement. Chris quickly starts going into too many details, but fear not: Jonathan pulls him back. This conversation will be of particular interest to Canadians, but we welcome anyone with open hearts (especially if you bring food). 01:29 There is no Canadian healthcare system 04:24 How do doctors get paid 08:16 Who decides how many patients a doctor sees in a day 12:54 Wait times and the US healthcare system 20:24 Our partially centralized medical record system 22:35 The quest to find a family doctor 27:43 US vs. Canada: FIGHT! 31:26 Pharmacare 34:48 Does the US have more cutting-edge medical treatments 39:19 "You've NEVER SEEN SPARTACUS?!" 41:30 Malpractice lawsuits 44:28 Access to healthcare 47:34 Publicly-funded, privately-delivered solutions 51:58 Chris' #1 frustration Theme music: "Troll of the Mountain Swing" by the Underscore Orkestra. To contribute to The Body of Evidence, go to our Patreon page at: http://www.patreon.com/thebodyofevidence/.

Aug 4, 2019 • 54min
052 - Baldness and Vaping
Chris tries to shave Jonathan's head as a poorly thought-out prophylactic measure against baldness. Meanwhile, comedian Jacob Meza interviews the cast of his comedy show: do baseball caps cause baldness… or treat it? Back in the studio, the boys talk about the many reasons why people lose their hair; Rogaine and Propecia; whether or not women can go bald; and the fact that it's not technically testosterone that's to blame for baldness. Also: peacocks; vaping may help you quit cigarettes but it many not help you quit nicotine; sunscreen chemicals in the blood; and the return of Dr. Bob Bobinovitz. Vox pop by Jacob Meza, host of Comedy Crowd Off, the Heckling Game Show. Jingle by Joseph Hackl. Additional music by Seth Donnelly and Kevin MacLeod. Theme music: "Troll of the Mountain Swing" by the Underscore Orkestra. To contribute to The Body of Evidence, go to our Patreon page at: http://www.patreon.com/thebodyofevidence/. Patrons get a bonus show on Patreon called "Digressions"! Check it out!

Jul 21, 2019 • 1h
Interview - Ryan Armstrong on Regulating Pseudoscience
Jonathan and Chris interview Ryan Armstrong, the executive director of Bad Science Watch, a consumer protection watchdog and science advocacy organization. They discuss what Bad Science Watch does; the lobbying forces surrounding Health Canada; homeopathy; the antagonist in Braveheart; the Stop Nosodes campaign; vaccine misinformation on social media; chiropractic complaints not taken seriously; innate intelligence; predatory practice building; how to lodge a complaint, the Ryan way; internecine squabbles between vitalists and evidence-based chiropractors; osteopaths and podiatrists; chiropractors and physical therapists; should pseudomedical practitioners have an order; Ryan's dream of a national science agency; and Chris' controversial question. LINKS: Bad Science Watch's website: https://badsciencewatch.ca Ryan Armstrong on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ryarmst Ryan changes his mind regarding the self-regulation of the chiropractic profession: https://posttruthhealth.ca/index.php/2019/05/17/the-failure-of-self-regulation-of-the-chiropractic-profession-is-an-urgent-public-health-crisis/ Stop Nosodes: http://www.stopnosodes.org Theme music: "Troll of the Mountain Swing" by the Underscore Orkestra. To contribute to The Body of Evidence, go to our Patreon page at: http://www.patreon.com/thebodyofevidence/.


