

Husband Material
Drew Boa
So you want to outgrow porn. But how? How do you change your brain, heal your heart, and save your relationship? Welcome to Husband Material with Drew Boa, where we answer all these questions and more! Each episode makes it easier for you to achieve lasting freedom from porn—without fighting an exhausting battle. Porn is a pacifier. This podcast will help you outgrow it and become a sexually mature man of God.
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Dec 29, 2025 • 1h 40min
K-Pop Demon Hunters: A Story Of Hiding And Healing
Drew and Andy delve into the themes of shame, vulnerability, and healing inspired by the film K-Pop Demon Hunters. They explore how characters navigate their struggles and the role of secrecy in shaping sexual shame. The discussion highlights the connection between personal growth and community support, emphasizing the power of vulnerability. With insights on performance pressure, generational trauma, and moments of collective healing, they reveal how embracing one's whole self can lead to redemption and transformation.

Dec 22, 2025 • 39min
When A Leader Relapses (with Nate Larkin)
In this incredibly vulnerable episode, Nate Larkin tells the story of how he returned to lying, hiding, binge drinking, and destructive sexual behavior while leading a sexual recovery organization. You'll also hear Nate's wisdom on how to be vulnerable as a leader and the importance of telling the truth.Nate Larkin is the founder of the Samson Society, a fellowship of Christian men who are serious about authenticity, community, humility, and recovery. Learn more at samsonsociety.comBuy Nate's book: Samson and the Pirate Monks: Calling Men To Authentic BrotherhoodSupport the showTake the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTube Step 2: Join the private Husband Material Community Step 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow Porn Step 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material Academy Thanks for listening!

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Dec 15, 2025 • 55min
Revealing The Future Of Husband Material Ministries
The vision for transforming young men and couples takes center stage, focusing on healing childhood wounds to foster maturity. Exciting developments include a new educational platform and a commitment to preventing relationship issues before marriage. A revolutionary SHARE assessment aims to promote honesty about sexual history and trauma. The initiative also targets teens, offering early recovery resources to guide them in healing. Community support and donor contributions are essential for expanding these impactful programs.

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Dec 8, 2025 • 36min
How Technology Can Help You Connect And Heal (with Chandler Rogers)
Chandler Rogers, CEO and co-founder of Relay, shares his inspiring journey from personal struggle with addiction to leading a community-based recovery program. He discusses how digital groups foster connection and provide daily support, emphasizing that technology can be a tool for healing rather than a hindrance. Chandler critiques traditional shame-based accountability, advocating for a more compassionate approach to recovery. He underscores the importance of vulnerability, community, and the profound bonds formed in recovery as essential for lasting freedom.

Dec 1, 2025 • 15min
The Villain, The Victim, and The Hero
How do you see yourself? Do you ever feel like a villain, like everything is your fault? Do you ever feel like a victim, overwhelmed and powerless to change your life? Do you ever feel like a hero, as if you have to succeed because the whole world is depending on you? Today, we’re talking about how to see yourself accurately and understand yourself better through three lenses: your villain story, your victim story, and your hero story. These categories are inspired by “The Karpman Drama Triangle” by Dr. Stephen B. Karpman. The original drama triangle describes common patterns in dysfunctional relationships. I’ve adapted it for the context of story work for men outgrowing porn.Support the showTake the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTube Step 2: Join the private Husband Material Community Step 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow Porn Step 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material Academy Thanks for listening!

Dec 1, 2025 • 38min
Arousal, Addiction, And Intimacy (with Chris Chandler and Andrew Engstrom)
What exactly is arousal? Is it more than just sexual? In this episode, you'll learn the four types of arousal (uppers, downers, all-arounders, and deprivation) and how we use addiction to avoid intimacy ("into messy"). Along the way, you'll also find out why recovery is not a "don't touch your penis" program and how the skill of "tension holding" can transform your relationships. Great conversation!Chris Chandler (LMHC, LPCC, EMDR, CSAT-S) is a licensed therapist, coach, and Clinical Advisor at Relay Health. He is also the founder of Christian Recovery Groups LLC, a national program helping men and women heal from compulsive and addictive behaviors through faith, community, and neuroscience-informed recovery practices. Over the past 20 years, Chris has led thousands through individual and group recovery experiences. His mission is simple: to restore people to wholeness by integrating clinical insight with authentic, Spirit-filled community because true recovery happens in relationship.Schedule a 30-minute consultation with Chris here.Andrew Engstrom is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist with Seattle Christian Counseling, where he helps individuals and couples heal by understanding themselves better first. Andrew is certified in MDFT (a holistic approach to counseling treatment) and uses PREPARE/ENRICH in pre-marital and marital counseling. He offers support and insight for overcoming obstacles that stand in the way of forming lasting, fulfilling relationships with others and God.Learn more and connect with Andrew here.See a preview of Chris and Andrew's intensives here.Support the showTake the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTube Step 2: Join the private Husband Material Community Step 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow Porn Step 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material Academy Thanks for listening!

Nov 17, 2025 • 44min
D.I.R.E.C.T. Psychodrama (with Dr. Doug Carpenter and Drew Boa)
In this episode, Doug and Drew explain their powerful, unique approach to psychodrama: DIRECT. You'll learn how this powerful modality can help you experience deeper healing and freedom from porn.D.I.R.E.C.T. = Dynamic, Intuitive, Redemptive, Embodied, Communal Transformation.Come experience D.I.R.E.C.T. at a Husband Material Healing Weekend! See all upcoming healing weekends and retreats at husbandmaterial.com/retreatJanuary Healing Weekend in Florida: 4 spots left. Apply here.March Healing Weekend in Utah : FULL.Support the showTake the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTube Step 2: Join the private Husband Material Community Step 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow Porn Step 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material Academy Thanks for listening!

Nov 10, 2025 • 41min
Sex Education For Adult Men (with Dr. Doug Carpenter)
Dr. Doug Carpenter, a clinical psychologist and advocate for men's sexual education, sheds light on essential topics for adult men. He discusses the need for sex education in adulthood, addressing myths about low testosterone, prostate health, and sperm production. Doug contrasts the realities of sexual relationships with the portrayal of sex in porn, emphasizing the importance of communication and understanding between partners. He also highlights the significance of mentorship and learning to foster healthier sexual experiences.

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Nov 3, 2025 • 1h 6min
Ten Ways To Regulate Without Porn (Grounding Techniques)
Discover ten empowering grounding techniques to manage triggers without resorting to porn. Learn vital breathing exercises, including diaphragmatic and Wim Hof methods, to calm your nervous system. Explore mindfulness through the 5-4-3-2-1 technique that hones your focus on the present. Engage with your emotions using befriending questions and creative expression to turn feelings into art. Movement and identity statements further support your journey, emphasizing the importance of community for effective co-regulation.

Oct 27, 2025 • 37min
Healing From Sex Trafficking (with Mike Chapman)
How does sex trafficking affect boys and men (not just girls and women) and what does healing look like? Hear Mike Chapman's incredible story. This episode is a taken from Mike's recent presentation, "Family-Controlled Sex Trafficking of Young Boys: One Survivor's Healing Journey" at the International Human Trafficking & Social Justice Conference.Mike Chapman is a survivor of childhood sexual abuse and family-controlled sex trafficking, and a survivor of sexual assault by clergy as a young adult. In his spiritual journey to recovery, Mike has had to battle anger, PTSD, anxiety, codependency, and addictive behaviors, including porn addiction. Mike is also a Full-Time Sign Language Interpreter and a Part-Time Santa Claus Portrayal Artist. He’s been happily married to his wife Beth for over 35 years, and they have 2 adult children – Lizzy and Mac. He and Beth live in Hubert, NC. Mike is currently a part-time Recovery Life Coach for both Polar Life Consulting and Husband Material. To find out more or to contact Mike, email him at PolarLifeConsulting@gmail.comCheck out Mike's own podcast:Healing for Male Survivors with Mike ChapmanJoin Mike and Drew at the next Husband Material Retreat at husbandmaterial.com/retreatSupport the showTake the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTube Step 2: Join the private Husband Material Community Step 3: Take the free mini-course: How To Outgrow Porn Step 4: Try the all-in-one program: Husband Material Academy Thanks for listening!


