
The Workspan Podcast
The Workspan Podcast takes on the day’s most pressing workplace issues with a healthy mix of insight, wit and irreverence. Produced and hosted by Tom Alexander and WorldatWork columnist Charles Epstein.
Latest episodes

Oct 31, 2022 • 38min
Episode 29: Expert Counsel on Pay Transparency Legislation that's Sweeping the Country
Scott Pechaitis, a principal in the law firm Jackson Lewis P.C. and a national leader in the world of employment law, discusses pay transparency, specifically the new Pay Transparency laws that are taking effect November 1 in New York City and Westchester County, and will soon be sweeping the nation. What you need to know, how to prepare, the pros and cons.

Oct 11, 2022 • 34min
Episode 28: A Fascinating Conversation on Capping Sales Compensation (yes, we said fascinating!)
Darren Tse, North America Practice Leader Sales Effectiveness and Rewards for WTW, discusses setting caps on sales compensation. What may first sound like a narrowly focused topic turns out to have many fascinating dimensions and implications. Darren expertly takes us through the host of competing interests that need to be balanced: maintaining an equitable compensation framework and keeping top performers motivated, attracting top people to the team, etc. Check it out.

Oct 3, 2022 • 35min
Episode 27: A New Chapter in Total Rewards: Narrative-Driven Research
A fascinating conversation with Liz Supinski, Director, Research & Insights at WorldatWork. Liz discusses how her background in I/O psychology and data science informs her research work, her plans to make WorldatWork’s research reports more narrative-driven, helping TR professionals carry the conversation into their organizations…and a sneak preview on the research reports coming out this year and early next year.

Sep 23, 2022 • 50min
Episode 26: Humanizing Human Capital: Invest in your people for optimal business returns.
Co-authors Solange Charas and Stela Lupushor discuss their timely and very insightful new book, Humanizing Human Capital. Topics include: the difference between people analytics and human capital analytics, the value of “purpose audits,” AI and its potential impact on leadership, why HR needs to improve their numeracy and understand how data can actually help “humanize” the workplace.

Sep 20, 2022 • 40min
Episode 25: How Successful Leaders Can – and Must! - Get Even Better
Master Corporate Executive Coach Jordan Goldrich on how successful leaders can get better. Jordan discusses how to promote successful leadership in today’s increasing remote business world, his work with “abrasive” leaders and what he means by applying the Navy Seals “ethos” to effective, responsive leadership.

Sep 6, 2022 • 36min
Episode 24: A Force for Change: Former Salesforce President Cindy Robbins on Pay Equity
Cindy Robbins is an independent board director, corporate advisor, and senior executive with 20+ years of experience counseling CEOs and other senior executives. As President and Chief People Officer of Salesforce, she designed and oversaw a global workforce that became a model of innovative corporate culture. Cindy joins us to discuss pay equity: how/why Salesforce made pay equity a priority, the CEO’s influence in changing corporate behaviors, what tools are best for measuring pay equity, the importance of transparency and what the future holds.

Aug 25, 2022 • 26min
Episode 23: The 411 on the BDO 600: 2022 Study of CEO and CFO Compensation
Judy Canavan is Managing Director, Compensation & Benefits, Global Employer Services at BDO, and leader of their Compensation Surveys practice. Judy joins us to discuss BDO’s 2022 Study of CEO and CFO Compensation, which is based on the practices of 600 mid-market public companies. She shares the key takeaways, differences between the 2022 and 2021 studies, and the biggest surprises. To access report: https://insights.bdo.com/2022-BDO-600.html

Aug 16, 2022 • 35min
Episode 22: What it Takes to Develop Young Talent
Our guest Dan Beaudry is the founder of LDP Connect, a community of professionals who lead, manage or support early career talent development programs at some of the world’s largest employers. We discuss what young, high potential employees are looking for and the skills/attributes/support they need to advance and flourish. With a special cameo appearance from friend and benefactor of the pod, Todd Horton, CEO of KangoGift!

Aug 5, 2022 • 36min
Episode 21: Space is the Place: a “Stellar” Conversation with Space Writer Ann Jenkins
Awestruck by the images pulled from deep space by the James Webb telescope? We are too! We have the perfect guest to bring it all down to earth: Ann Jenkins, principal science writer at the Space Telescope Science Institute, the science operations center for the Hubble and James Webb Space Telescopes. We also discuss her fascinating career that began at NASA 25 years ago.

Jul 22, 2022 • 36min
Episode 20: The Challenges of Managing Dynamic Growth: from Geographic Pay Differentials to Sustainable Company Culture
We are joined by Debbie Gunning, VP of People at Human Interest, a fast-growing fintech firm providing 401(k)s to small and medium businesses. Debbie’s team runs the company's talent and culture programs. We discuss geographic pay differentials and the challenges of promoting coherent company culture for a company experiencing exponential growth – Human Interest has grown from ~50 team members working from the SF office in 2019 to nearly 700 working all across the US today!