
Shrink The Box
Ever wondered why Frasier Crane is such a snob?
How Tyrion Lannister’s bawdy humour saves him in Game of Thrones?
What makes Schitts Creek’s Moira Rose a narcissist?
‘Shrink the Box’ is where actor comedian Ben Bailey Smith and psychotherapist Nemone Metaxas put their favourite fictional characters such Tommy from Peaky Blinders and Sydney from The Bear on the couch - to analyse why their behaviour causes them so much drama.
Nemone and Ben explore why these characters make certain decisions, what would happen if they made different ones and what we can learn from their mistakes. The perfect combination of psychology, self-help and the best TV since the birth of the box-set.
We would love to hear your theories: shrinkthebox@sonymusic.com
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Feb 3, 2025 • 10min
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Sep 17, 2024 • 51min
Do you have a critical inner voice? Plus forgotten actors enjoying a renaissance and your questions answered - SHRINK THE INBOX
For the last episode of this season, team STB gets real with those pesky inner monologues (as promised in the Carrie: Sex and the City episode). Plus, what's the connection between 80s comedy-thriller Lovejoy and The Matrix? We explore actors who have come back from obscurity with aplomb.
We want to hear about any theories we might have missed, what you’ve thought of the show so far and your character suggestions. Please drop the team an email (which may be part of the show): shrinkthebox@sonymusic.com
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Sep 10, 2024 • 52min
CARRIE BRADSHAW – How to fight the patriarchy and stop obsessing over relationships – SHRINK THE BOX
In our final character episode of this season, we put Carrie from Sex and the City on the couch. Nemone looks at why Sex and the City hasn’t aged well, and Ben talks about diversity in the privileged, white world of the show. We get into Carrie’s shopping habit, low self-esteem, and why everyone in the show is SO obsessed with relationships, even though the women really have no need for them. We also get a primer on the Bechdel test, and how you can tell if a show is sexist without knowing it. And if you want to check out more on the patriarchy and diversity, have a listen to our episodes on Sydney from The Bear.
We want to hear about any theories we might have missed, what you’ve thought of the show so far and your character suggestions. Please drop the team an email (which may be part of the show): shrinkthebox@sonymusic.com
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CREDITS
We used clips from episodes of Sex and the City. It’s available to watch on NOWTV/SKY.
Starring:
Sarah Jessica Parker – Carrie Bradshaw
Cynthia Nixon – Miranda Hobbs
Kim Cattrall – Samatha Jones
Kristin Davis – Charlotte York
Created by:
Darren Star
Candace Bushnell
Directed by:
Susan Seidalman
Nicole Holofcener
Alison Maclean
Michael Fields
Darren Star
Produced by:
Darren Star
Michael Patrick King
John P. Melfi
Jenny Bicks
Sarah Jessica Parker
Cindy Chupack
We would love to hear your theories: shrinkthebox@sonymusic.com
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Sep 3, 2024 • 50min
JACKSON LAMB in SLOW HORSES: Do spies make the best therapists? – SHRINK THE BOX
Ben and Nemone put Jackson Lamb from Slow Horses on the couch. Gary Oldman’s version of Mick Herron’s character has become household name, and you can see why. A man with many layers, a million secrets, and a lightning rod for other’s emotions – perhaps he is the perfect Freudian analyst. Nemone gives us a crash course in transference and counter-transference, looks at why people mask and create false selves, and what drives people into a career where they hide their true selves from everyone, including themselves.
This is the PERFECT watching companion to Season 4 of Slow Horses, coming 4th September on AppleTV+!
And if you want to look at false selves, then listen back to our episode on The Morning Show’s Jennifer Aniston and Reese Witherspoon.
We want to hear about any theories we might have missed, what you’ve thought of the show so far and your character suggestions. Please drop the team an email (which may be part of the show): shrinkthebox@sonymusic.com
NEXT CLIENTS ON THE COUCH. Find out how to view here
Carrie Bradshaw, Sex and the City (selected episodes)
CREDITS
We used clips from Season 1 of Slow Horses. It’s available to watch on AppleTV+.
Starring:
Gary Oldman - Jackson Lamb
Jack Lowden - River Cartwright
Kristin Scott Thomas - Diana Taverner
Saskia Reeves - Catherine Standish
Rosalind Eleazar - Louisa Guy
Christopher Chung - Roddy Ho
Created by:
Mick Herron
Will Smith
Directed by:
James Hawes
Jeremy Lovering
Saul Metzstein
Produced by:
Iain Canning
Hakan Kousetta
Jamie Laurenson
Gail Mutrux et al.
We would love to hear your theories: shrinkthebox@sonymusic.com
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Aug 27, 2024 • 48min
CAPTAIN HOLT of BROOKLYN 99: Neurodiverse, gay and battling racism – SHRINK THE BOX
Ben and Nemone put Raymond Holt on the couch. We look at how this trailblazing policeman (the first black, gay police captain in the force) stands out from the rest of the precinct. We learn how family dynamics inform behaviour and what it takes to be a great leader. Nemone looks at a diagnosis of ASD or Asperger’s Syndrome for the captain, and Ben gives a heartwarming tribute to the great actor who played him, André Braugher.
We want to hear about any theories we might have missed, what you’ve thought of the show so far and your character suggestions. Please drop the team an email (which may be part of the show): shrinkthebox@sonymusic.com
NEXT CLIENTS ON THE COUCH. Find out how to view here
Jackson Lamb, Slow Horses (Season 1)
Carrie Bradshaw, Sex and the City (selected episodes)
CREDITS
We used clips from episodes of Brooklyn 99. It’s available to watch on Netflix.
Starring:
Andy Samberg - Jacob "Jake" Peralta
Stephanie Beatriz - Rosa Diaz
Terry Crews - Terrence "Terry" JeffordsMelissa Fumero - Amy Santiago
Joe Lo Truglio - Charles Boyle
Chelsea Peretti - Regina "Gina" Linetti
Andre Braugher - Raymond Holt
Dirk Blocker as Michael Hitchcock and Joel McKinnon Miller as Norm Scully
Created by:
Dan Goor
Michael Schur
Directed by:
Craig Zisk
Julie Ann Robinson
Troy Miller
Dean Holland
Jason Ensler
Produced by:
Dan Goor
Michael Schur
David Miner
Phil Lord
Christopher Miller (both; pilot)
Luke Del Tredici
David Phillips
We would love to hear your theories: shrinkthebox@sonymusic.com
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Aug 20, 2024 • 50min
SCHITT’S CREEK and Moira Rose: this is narcissism – SHRINK THE BOX
Ben and Nemone put Moira Rose on the couch and take a deep dive into her narcissistic tendencies, and what effect that has on the rest of the Schitts. Nemone explains how narcissism is not as easy to spot as its widespread use would have you believe. We also discuss the collection of wigs that Moira keeps in her closet and why they are transitional objects. And if you’re interested in hearing more on narcissism, then check out our episode on Game of Thrones’ Cersei Lannister.
We want to hear about any theories we might have missed, what you’ve thought of the show so far and your character suggestions. Please drop the team an email (which may be part of the show): shrinkthebox@sonymusic.com
NEXT CLIENTS ON THE COUCH. Find out how to view here
Raymond Holt, Brooklyn 99 (selected episodes)
Jackson Lamb, Slow Horses (Season 1)
Carrie Bradshaw, Sex and the City (selected episodes)
CREDITS
We used clips from episodes of Schitt’s Creek. It’s available to watch on Netflix.
Starring:
Eugene Levy - Johnny Rose
Catherine O'Hara - Moira Rose
Daniel Levy - David Rose
Annie Murphy - Alexis Rose
Created by:
Daniel Levy
Eugene Levy
Directed by:
Jerry Ciccoritti
Paul Fox
Produced by:
Eugene Levy
Dan Levy
Fred Levy
Andrew Barnsley
Ben Feigin
Kevin White
David West Read
We would love to hear your theories: shrinkthebox@sonymusic.com
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Aug 13, 2024 • 51min
Explaining addicts' behaviour, ‘trapped’ dramas (Handmaid’s Tale) and your questions - SHRINK THE INBOX
If characters in ‘trapped’ dramas escape, is that the end of the show? Ben and Nemone explore The Handmaid’s Tale and Severance as examples. Plus, Ben reacts to a listener’s ‘constructive’ feedback and Nemone explores Polyvagal Theory to explain why we might react in the way we do from childhood trauma.
We want to hear about any theories we might have missed, what you’ve thought of the show so far and your character suggestions. Please drop the team an email (which may be part of the show): shrinkthebox@sonymusic.com
NEXT CLIENTS ON THE COUCH. Find out how to view here
Raymond Holt, Brooklyn 99 (selected episodes)
Jackson Lamb, Slow Horses (Season 1)
Carrie Bradshaw, Sex and the City (selected episodes)
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Aug 6, 2024 • 52min
THE WIRE’S Bubbles: How do you help an addict? – SHRINK THE BOX
Ben and Nemone discuss The Wire’s ‘Bubbles’ aka Reginald Collins. An informant and heroin user, a man with a fragile support network who finds himself stranded while trying to forge closer bonds with those around him. Nemone tells Ben how unconditional love is the hardest thing to give an addict, and the key to helping them start their journey to sobriety. Plus we hear wisdom from Gabor Maté. Our episode on the Queen’s Gambit has great insights into addiction if you’re looking for even more on this subject.
We talked about AA, Al Anon and Samaritans in the show. Here are links:
AA: https://www.alcoholics-anonymous.org.uk/
Al Anon: https://al-anonuk.org.uk/
Samaritans: https://www.samaritans.org/
We want to hear about any theories we might have missed, what you’ve thought of the show so far and your character suggestions. Please drop the team an email (which may be part of the show): shrinkthebox@sonymusic.com
NEXT CLIENTS ON THE COUCH. Find out how to view here
Moira Rose, Schitt's Creek (Season 1)
Raymond Holt, Brooklyn 99 (selected episodes)
Jackson Lamb, Slow Horses (Season 1)
Carrie Bradshaw, Sex and the City (selected episodes)
CREDITS
We used clips from Seasons 1 of The Wire. It’s available to watch on NOWTV.
Starring:
Dominic West - Jimmy McNulty
Idris Elba - Stringer Bell
Lawrence Gilliard Jr. - D’Angelo Barskdale
Wood Harris - Avon Barksdale
Deirdre Lovejoy - Rhonda Pearlman
Wendell Pierce - Detective Bunk
Lance Reddick - Cpt. Cedric Daniels
Andre Royo – Reginald Collins, aka Bubbles
Sonja Sohn - Kima Greggs
Created by:
David Simon
Directed by:
Clark Johnson
Peter Medak
Clement Virgo
Ed Bianchi
Gloria Muzo
Produced by:
Karen L. Thorson
Ed Burns
Joe Chappelle
George Pelecanos
Eric Overmyer
David Simon
Robert F. Colesberry
Nina Kostroff Noble
We would love to hear your theories: shrinkthebox@sonymusic.com
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Jul 30, 2024 • 49min
PEAKY BLINDERS’ Polly Shelby: the silent observer in all of us – SHRINK THE BOX
Ben and Nemone discuss Helen McCrory’s iconic Poly Shelby from Peaky Blinders. She’s a devout Catholic, but up to her neck in the murky world of bootlegging and murder. Nemone gets into the thorny question of how she might match those up, and reveals how each of us has a ‘silent observer’ inside. We also dive into the history of women’s rights in 1920s England. Look out for some killer lines from our Polly, too. If you like this, you’ll love our look at Cersei Lannister and how to lead violent men using more than physical force, and the toll that takes.
We want to hear about any theories we might have missed, what you’ve thought of the show so far and your character suggestions. Please drop the team an email (which may be part of the show): shrinkthebox@sonymusic.com
NEXT CLIENTS ON THE COUCH. Find out how to view here
Reginald "Bubbles" Cousins, The Wire (Season 1)
Moira Rose, Schitt's Creek (Season 1)
Raymond Holt, Brooklyn 99 (selected episodes)
Jackson Lamb, Slow Horses (Season 1)
Carrie Bradshaw, Sex and the City (selected episodes)
CREDITS
We used clips from Seasons 1&2 of Peaky Blinders. It’s available to watch on BBC iPlayer.
Starring:
Tommy Shelby - Cillian Murphy
Polly Gray - Helen McCrory
Arthur Shelby - Paul Anderson
Ada Shelby - Sophie Rundle
Finn Shelby - Harry Kirton
Lizzie Shelby - Natasha O'Keeffe
Linda Shelby - Kate Phillips
Created by:
Steven Knight
Directed by:
Otto Bathurst
Tom Harper
Colm McCarthy
Produced by:
Katie Swinden
Laurie Borg
We would love to hear your theories: shrinkthebox@sonymusic.com
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Jul 23, 2024 • 49min
ORANGE IS THE NEW BLACK’S “Taystee”: Adoption, Child States and Attachment Theory – SHRINK THE BOX
Ben and Nemone discuss Tasha Jefferson, aka Taystee, from Orange is the New Black. We get fascinating insights into child states and how difficult they are to escape; attachment theory and why prison can be a better alternative to living in the outside world. Expect to laugh and cry while reliving one of the early bingeable series on Netflix. And if you’re interested in looking further into issues of adoption and racism, check out our episode on The Queen’s Gambit, from Season 1.
We want to hear about any theories we might have missed, what you’ve thought of the show so far and your character suggestions. Please drop the team an email (which may be part of the show): shrinkthebox@sonymusic.com
NEXT CLIENTS ON THE COUCH. Find out how to view here
Polly, Peaky Blinders (seasons 1&2)
Reginald "Bubbles" Cousins, The Wire (Season 1)
Moira Rose, Schitt's Creek (Season 1)
Raymond Holt, Brooklyn 99 (selected episodes)
Jackson Lamb, Slow Horses (Season 1)
Carrie Bradshaw, Sex and the City (selected episodes)
CREDITS
We used clips from Season 1 of Orange is the New Black. It’s available to watch on Netflix.
Starring:
Taylor Schilling as Piper Chapman
Laura Prepon as Alex Vause,
Michael Harney as Sam Healy
Michelle Hurst as Miss Claudette Pelage
Kate Mulgrew as Galina "Red" Reznikov
Jason Biggs as Larry Bloom
Uzo Aduba as Suzanne "Crazy Eyes" Warren
Danielle Brooks as Tasha "Taystee" Jefferson
Natasha Lyonne as Nicky Nichols
Taryn Manning as Tiffany "Pennsatucky" Doggett
Selenis Leyva as Gloria Mendoza
Adrienne C. Moore as Cynthia "Black Cindy" Hayes
Dascha Polanco as Dayanara "Daya" Diaz
Created by:
Jenji Kohan
Directed by:
Michael Trim
Andrew McCarthy
Uta Briesewitz
Jodie Foster
Matthew Penn
Produced by:
Jenji Kohan
Sara Hess
Tara Herrmann
Lisa Vinnecour
Neri Kyle Tannenbaum
Mark A. Burley
We would love to hear your theories: shrinkthebox@sonymusic.com
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