

The Dave Chang Show
The Ringer
Dave Chang has a few questions. Besides being the chef of the Momofuku restaurants and the creator and host of Netflix’s 'Ugly Delicious,' Dave is an avid student and fan of sports, music, art, film, and, of course, food. In ranging conversations that cover everything from the creative process to his guest’s guiltiest pleasures, Dave and a rotating cast of smart, thought-provoking guests talk about their inspirations, failures, successes, fame, and identities.
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Aug 8, 2022 • 58min
Into the Order-Ticket Matrix
Before Neo learned to read the green rain of code that made up the Matrix, before even Sherlock Holmes devised a way to describe a man based on a glance at a forgotten walking stick, restaurant kitchen staff were doing pretty much the same thing every time a new order ticket came into their kitchens. Dave, Chris, and Noelle dig into what can be gleaned from those black-and-white lines listing entrées and appetizers and share a few stories about how it's gone right and wrong for them, before Dave lays out a guide for diners who want to do better, and pulls back the curtain on the rare jewel that is the Money Piece.Host: Dave Chang and Chris YingGuest: Noelle CornelioProducer: Chelsea Stark-JonesAdditional Production: Jordan Bass and Chris Sutton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 4, 2022 • 1h 9min
Dave's Ramen Origin Story, Chewing Our Way Through Language Barriers, and Tips for Seeking Out the Delicious
Food may be a universal language, but how much gets lost in translation when you're eating in a place where you're not a native speaker? Dave shares a few of his recent linguistic travails, and compares notes with Noelle and Chris, before revisiting the rural Osaka ramen-shop moment that very likely changed his life. Also: Dave as the Park's BBQ shepherd, locals-only restaurants, a return to Duck House, Chris in Las Vegas, inauspicious fork drops, velveting the shrimp, doing whatever it takes to win over the waiter, OG smørrebrød, Golden Century, Hop Woo's trilingual menu, and Dave's tips for avoiding the tourist tax.Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris YingGuest: Noelle CornelioProducer: Mike WargonAdditional Production: Jordan Bass and Lala Rasor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 1, 2022 • 1h 8min
Cooking Tips, French Fry Rankings, and Restaurants That Celebrate the Absurd
On a bounteous, bento box-style multi-segment episode, Dave delves into a few recent home-cooking successes before turning to a whirlwind assessment of the fast-food french fry landscape (23:00) and finishing off with a few ways forward for restaurants in our image-saturated age (41:45). Also discussed: cultural chewiness preferences, Dave's favorite protein, family-friendly jangjorim, mapo tofu, 'Top Gun', 'The Birth of Tragedy', Jean-Georges's steakhouse, the next dining hotbeds, and making food that people will wait in the rain for.Host: Dave ChangProducers: Jordan Bass and Lala Rasor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jul 28, 2022 • 1h 24min
52 Dishes
On an episode for the ages, Dave Chang takes us through a full deck of unforgettable dishes—the ones he never stops thinking about. He covers 50-plus brushes with culinary perfection, from childhood up through trips to Tokyo and Texas and Sao Paulo and Mumbai. It's a core-memory highlight reel like no other, the benchmarks Dave uses to measure everything else, never assembled in one place beyond his brain—until now.Host: Dave ChangProducers: Jordan Bass and Lala Rasor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jul 25, 2022 • 1h 3min
Dave’s Home Alone, How Food Follows Fashion, and a Reality-Altering Moment at Noma Tokyo
Did one ramen chef’s last-minute decision to photograph the very first service at Noma Tokyo's pop-up … irreversibly change the course the restaurant world has been on ever since? To investigate, Dave sends roving correspondent Chris Ying to talk to Ivan Orkin himself about the day in question—and then hunts for parallels in the far reaches of high fashion. Also: the state of Dave’s fridge, solo eating at home, Shakey’s PIzza, pickled jalapeños, pork chop prep, Margaret Zhang, Art Culinaire, setting up a tripod in the dining room, Moleskine sketches, the Ko black hole, and the diner-photographer Uncertainty Principle.Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris YingGuest: Ivan OrkinProducer: Sasha AshallAdditional Production: Jordan Bass and Lala Rasor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jul 21, 2022 • 1h 1min
The Most Memorable Meals Dave Has Ever Had, the Power of Not Knowing, and the Lure of the List
How the heck are we supposed to figure out where to eat in 2022 anyway? On the heels of an unforeseen but absurdly good Peking duck dinner, Dave and Chris consider the ever-expanding restaurant-recommendation complex, and the risks and rewards of going off the grid. Plus: mummy innards, not watching the trailer, crispy shrimp, the penicillin principle, Ben Wallace, eating turbot at Elkano, an L.A. restaurant trinity, Dave in Japan, Kappabashi yakitori, Oriental Garden, on-set lunch, overlooking the good-to-great, and the culinary version of Jimi Hendrix.Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris YingProducer: Sasha AshallAdditional Production: Jordan Bass and Lala Rasor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jul 18, 2022 • 1h 4min
Astrophysics, What’s Good, and a Double-Take-Worthy Dispatch from Atlanta
After spending the first half of the show grappling with the existential questions, from the prehistory of the known universe to the future of going out to eat, Dave and Chris collect some on-the-ground intel from two longtime experts on life in the ATL: Stephen Satterfield and, of course, Steven Satterfield. Also covered: Gaten Matarazzo, Ina Garten, physicist sellouts, infinite Big Bangs, Fishman Lobster Clubhouse, good meals at bad restaurants, Noma Tokyo, Copenhagen Chinese food, fried mozzarella and caviar, fast-forwarding through the scary parts, and Chris moving to LA.Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris YingGuests: Stephen Satterfield and Steven SatterfieldProducer: Sasha AshallAdditional Production: Jordan Bass and Lala Rasor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jul 14, 2022 • 1h 7min
Are We In or Out on In-N-Out?
In-N-Out Burger has had an almost unparalleled run as one of the most beloved operations in the western U.S., but there’s still one holdout rolling doubtfully past the drive-thru. His name is Dave Chang. Dave, Chris, and Noelle break down what In-N-Out does so well, and why he can’t just let love in. Also discussed: all-out waffles, North Korean noodles, Dave’s Park’s BBQ order, Southern California mumbo-jumbo, small-town athleticism, jalapeño poppers, the perfect iceberg lettuce, eating a hamburger at 10:30 a.m., Noelle’s In-N-Out instructions, data-driven drive-thrus, faith-based French fry preferences, the world’s tiniest toaster oven, orbital ordering systems, the In-N-Out Art of War, and the best thing to eat in your car.Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris YingGuest: Noelle CornelioProducer: Sasha AshallAdditional Production: Jordan Bass and Lala Rasor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jul 11, 2022 • 52min
Chris Bianco Interview Decoded
In a brief respite between his travels, Dave Chang teaches you everything you need to know about making dashi at home, then decodes his interview with Chris Bianco. He explains the classic-to-modern chef spectrum, the significance of legendary chefs Roberto Donna, Jean-Louis Palladin, and David Tanis, Bianco's gumption in the face of titans of industry, the lifecycle of perfecting a new dish, and how failure is a crucial part of the creative process.Host: Dave ChangProducer: Sasha AshallAdditional Production: Chris Ying, Jordan Bass, and Lala Rasor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jul 7, 2022 • 1h 8min
You Learn Things When You Burn Things
With a new restaurant open in L.A. and 30 years of gorgeous pizzas bearing his name in Phoenix, AZ, Chris Bianco has a lot of stories to tell. He returns to the pod to talk with Dave about building the most beautiful tower you’ve ever seen, bringing the sequel without the prequel, getting paid a barrel of beer on the Lower East Side, arming yourself with science, salads telling you what they want to be, Jean-Louis Palladin, a huge box of loquats, cutting bread toward your heart, what he imports from Italy vs. what he finds just beyond his doorstep, Deborah Madison, desperation melons, and a pizza inspired by Ligurian focaccia, New York bialys, and Southern Arizona pistachios.Host: David ChangGuest: Chris BiancoProducer: Sasha AshallAdditional Production: Jordan Bass and Lala Rasor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices