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Dec 16, 2022 • 27min

#72—Erica Orange: Trends to Keep Top of Mind

Erica Orange is Executive Vice President & Chief Operating Officer of The Future Hunters, one of the world’s leading futurist consulting firms. She evaluates emerging social, technological, economic, political, demographic and environmental trends—and identifies the strategic implications (the “So what?”) of those trends for several of the most influential Fortune 500 companies, trade associations and public sector clients. Erica’s ability to identify patterns, think critically and analytically, and translate that into actionable strategies is what has made her an invaluable asset to clients. Erica frequently speaks to a wide range of global audiences about the macro trends that are shaping and impacting today’s landscape. She has spoken at TEDx and keynoted over a hundred conferences around the world, including across Europe, Latin America, and Asia. She has authored numerous articles and industry white papers on a variety of future-focused topics, and has been featured in news outlets including NPR, Time, Inc, Yahoo Singapore, WWD, Bloomberg, and CBS This Morning. In 2020, she was named by Forbes as one of the world's 50 Top Female Futurists. In this podcast, she shares:Why the big opportunity of metaverse is not on the all the B2C marketing side that we tend to talk about The number one future trend that keeps her up at nightWhat competencies will be necessary in the future of AI__________________________________________________________________________________________" "-Erica Orange_________________________________________________________________________________________Episode Timeline:00:00—Introducing Erica + The topic of today’s episode2:17—If you really know me, you know that...2:55—What is your definition of strategy?4:59—How did you become a futurist?6:59—For the individual what does it look like to think about these trends and extrapolate?8:20—Could you elaborate on the trends you've seen in artificial intelligence, and what we should be thinking about?12:08—What are the implications for AI in terms of what it will affect, e.g. hiring, training...14:57—What keeps you up at night?18:35—Could we dig into the concept of "digital twins"?21:50—How do we balance reaching too far in the future with what's immediately possible?22:59—How do you get companies ready for the permutations of the future?25:46—Where can people follow you and keep learning from you?__________________________________________________________________________________________Additional Resources: Personal Page: https://thefuturehunters.com/speaking-engagements/erica-orange/Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericaorangeTwitter: https://twitter.com/erorangeThank you to our guest. Thank you to our executive producer, Karina Reyes, our editor, Zach Ness, and the rest of the team. If you like what you heard, please follow, download, and subscribe. I'm your host, Kaihan Krippendorff. Thank you for listening.Follow us at outthinkernetworks.com/podcast
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Dec 9, 2022 • 26min

#71—Simone Ahuja: Integrating Jugaad Innovation into Your Organization

Dr. Simone Ahuja is the founder of Blood Orange, a global innovation and strategy firm headquartered in Minneapolis, USA. She is co-author of the international bestseller, Jugaad Innovation, called “the most comprehensive book yet on the subject” on frugal innovation by the Economist. This practical innovation playbook makes clear how and why leaders must support the passionate and purpose-driven “intrapreneurs” inside their organizations to drive innovation and achieve sustainable growth. Dr. Ahuja has served as an advisor to MIT’s Practical Impact Alliance and Judge Business School at the University of Cambridge. She provides innovation and strategy advisory and consulting services to organizations including 3M, UnitedHealth Group, Procter & Gamble, Target Corp, Stanley Black & Decker, and the World Economic Forum. Dr. Ahuja is a regular contributor to the Harvard Business Review, a member of the Board of Trustees of the Walker Art Center in Minneapolis, and a practitioner of improvisational comedy. In this podcast, she shares:Why severe resource constraints often activate intrapreneurship and innovationThree things you need to put in place to unlock greater levels of internal innovationWhy bottom-up innovation is so important to include in your portfolio of innovation approachesThe mindset shift leaders and intrapreneurs should make to unlock greater levels of internal innovation__________________________________________________________________________________________""-Simone Ahuja_________________________________________________________________________________________Episode Timeline:00:00—Introducing Simone + The topic of today’s episode2:05—If you really know me, you know that...3:14—What is your definition of strategy?6:24—Simone's biggest pet peeve6:54—Where do you see the link between strategy and innovation being broken?9:28—Could you talk about your idea of intrapreneurship?11:50—Could you explain the concept of "juugad"?15:06—Can you give us examples of these internal intrapreneurs who practice juugad innovation?18:33—What is something I haven't asked you'd like to talk about?22:02—How do you solve for intrapreneurial experience to encourage their abilities?24:32—Where can people follow you and keep learning from you?__________________________________________________________________________________________Additional Resources: Personal Page: https://simoneahuja.com/Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-simone-ahuja-6b93a52/Twitter: https://twitter.com/simoneahuja?lang=enThank you to our guest. Thank you to our executive producer, Karina Reyes, our editor, Zach Ness, and the rest of the team. If you like what you heard, please follow, download, and subscribe. I'm your host, Kaihan Krippendorff. Thank you for listening.Follow us at outthinkernetworks.com/podcast
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Dec 2, 2022 • 22min

#70—Alex Budak: Becoming a Changemaker

Alex Budak is a social entrepreneur, faculty member at Berkeley Haas, and the author of Becoming a Changemaker. He teaches, speaks, and writes to help people make a positive impact in their lives, career, communities, and society. At UC Berkeley, Alex created and teaches the transformative course, “Becoming a Changemaker,” and is a Lecturer and Faculty Director for Berkeley Executive Education programs. As a social entrepreneur, he co‐founded StartSomeGood.com, ran Sweden’s most prominent social innovation incubator, Reach for Change, and helped Change.org scale globally. He has given talks on leadership, entrepreneurship, and changemaking around the world from Cambodia to Ukraine to the Arctic Circle, and at the White House, UN Agencies, and leading companies. A graduate of UCLA and Georgetown University, Alex loves travel adventures (39 countries and counting), rooting for the underdog, and spending time with his two favorite changemakers: his wife, Rebecca, and their toddler son. In this podcast, he shares:Why leadership is not about power, but rather about embracing "moments of micro-leadership"The three key aspects of being a changemaker—and a formula on how to multiply these aspects to be an effective changemakerSome practical advice on something you can do with your team and organization to help people embrace learning opportunity of taking risk __________________________________________________________________________________________""-Alex Budak_________________________________________________________________________________________Episode Timeline:00:00—Introducing Alex + The topic of today’s episode2:05—If you really know me, you know that...4:12—What is your definition of strategy?4:26—Could you explain your concept of micro-leadership?6:00—How did you create your incubator "start some good," and was it related to micro-leadership?7:17—Why have you dedicated so much of your career to teaching people to become a changemaker?8:32—What are the elements of being a changemaker?10:30—How do you get people to experience failure and take it effectively to learn from?12:54—How can leaders encourage the willingness to fail?14:48—What is a big misconception of leadership or power?17:09—How do you know what kind of change you want to commit to?20:25—Where can people follow you and take the next step in the journey with you?__________________________________________________________________________________________Additional Resources: Personal Page: https://www.alexbudak.com/Linkedin: http://linkedin.com/in/alexbudakTiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@alexbudakThank you to our guest. Thank you to our executive producer, Karina Reyes, our editor, Zach Ness, and the rest of the team. If you like what you heard, please follow, download, and subscribe. I'm your host, Kaihan Krippendorff. Thank you for listening.Follow us at outthinkernetworks.com/podcast
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Nov 25, 2022 • 19min

#69—Derek Lidow: The Historical and Modern Role of Entrepreneurs in Society

Derek Lidow is unique in having successful careers as CEO of a global publicly traded semiconductor company, a founder and CEO of an innovative and valuable startup, and now as a teacher and scholar of entrepreneurship and innovation. Derek is a professor of the practice at the Keller Center for Innovation in Engineering Education at Princeton University. He is the author of Startup Leadership: How Savvy Entrepreneurs Turn Their Ideas Into Successful Enterprises , Building on Bedrock: What Sam Walton, Walt Disney, and Other Great Self-Made Entrepreneurs Can Teach Us About Building Valuable Companies, and THE ENTREPRENEURS: The Relentless Quest for Value, as well as more than a hundred articles on innovation, entrepreneurship, and leadership. Lidow graduated summa cum laude from Princeton and received a PhD from Stanford as a Hertz Foundation Fellow. In this podcast, he shares:What it really takes to be a successful entrepreneur—and the history of these individualsWhat people often get wrong when they think about entrepreneurshipLessons for you to apply to become a successful entrepreneurThe positive and unexpected negative consequences of entrepreneurship in society__________________________________________________________________________________________""-Derek Lidow_________________________________________________________________________________________Episode Timeline:00:00—Introducing Derek + The topic of today’s episode2:23—If you really know me, you know that...2:54—What is your definition of strategy?3:29—What is your definition of entrepreneurship?5:14—Could you talk about the history of corporations and their structures, and how entrepreneurs fit into that?7:01—How were business people like the Elon Musks and Jeff Bezos perceived 4,000 years ago, and who were they?8:15—What would the world look like without entrepreneurs within the business mix?9:39—What are the less desirable impacts of entrepreneurs?11:51—How do we incentivize entrepreneurs to lean toward positive endeavors?14:14—Do you believe there is a shift toward entrepreneurs being focused on societal problems rather than self-interest focuses?15:44—What does it take to be a successful entrepreneur (qualities, characteristics, etc.)?17:16—What is something you'd like to share we haven't covered?17:58—How can people continue to learn from you and follow you?__________________________________________________________________________________________Additional Resources: Personal Page: https://dereklidow.com/Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dereklidowTwitter: https://twitter.com/DerekLidowFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/derek.lidow1Thank you to our guest. Thank you to our executive producer, Karina Reyes, our editor, Zach Ness, and the rest of the team. If you like what you heard, please follow, download, and subscribe. I'm your host, Kaihan Krippendorff. Thank you for listening.Follow us at outthinkernetworks.com/podcast
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Nov 18, 2022 • 19min

#68—Andrew Binns: The Role of the Corporate Explorer

Andrew Binns is managing director and co-founder of Change Logic, a Boston-based strategic advisory firm. He works with CEOs, boards, and senior teams as they lead significant business change. He is the lead author of the new book Corporate Explorer: How Corporations Beat Startups at the Innovation Game and won the best article award 2020 for his article, with Charles O’Reilly in the California Management Review – "Three Stage of Disruptive Innovation."Andy has 25 years of consulting experience as both an external and internal consultant for McKinsey & Co., IBM, and Change Logic. He won an award for his work on the IBM Emerging Business Opportunity program. He is an Executive Fellow at the Center for Future Organization at the Drucker School of Management and a member of the Fast Company Executive Board. In this podcast, he shares:What a corporate explorer is and what it takes to become one What companies often get wrong why trying to unlock innovation Why you should think about the value of weaponizing your humility Why you should be wary of accepting a lot of money How to look out for silent killers _________________________________________________________________________________________Episode Timeline:00:00—Introducing Andrew + The topic of today’s episode1:47—If you really know me, you know that...2:44—What do you believe about the idea that things are never perfect, and there is always room for improvement?4:18—What is your definition of strategy?6:13—What are some key elements for a company to grow organically?7:30—How do corporate explorers work with with balancing the core of a company vs. exploring new options?8:47—What are the characteristics of someone who has the ability to do both core and exploring work?11:22—What does a "corporate explorer" look like? Is there a "type"?13:35—Could you talk more on the idea that corporate explorers "weaponize humility"?15:17—What do you think about the idea of "corporate antibodies," the idea that an explorer has to go outside the company to create something new?17:53—What are the first steps to developing a culture of "corporate explorers"?19:02—How can people continue to learn from you and follow you?__________________________________________________________________________________________Additional Resources: Corporate Explorer Page: https://www.thecorporateexplorer.com/Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewjmbinnsTwitter: https://twitter.com/AJMBinnsThank you to our guest. Thank you to our executive producer, Karina Reyes, our editor, Zach Ness, and the rest of the team. If you like what you heard, please follow, download, and subscribe. I'm your host, Kaihan Krippendorff. Thank you for listening.Follow us at outthinkernetworks.com/podcast
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Nov 11, 2022 • 25min

#67—Kirstin Ferguson: Eight Traits to Mastering the Art of the Modern Leader

As an award-winning and globally recognised leader, executive coach, company director, writer and speaker, Kirstin Ferguson is one of Australia’s most prominent leadership experts. Kirstin is also making a global impact, with UK-based Thinkers50 naming her one of the world’s top 30 “Thinkers to Watch” and she was shortlisted for the Distinguished Award in Leadership in 2021. Kirstin’s career includes over a decade of experience on a range of company boards, including a previous appointment by the Australian Prime Minister as Acting Chair and Deputy Chair of the Australian Broadcasting Corporation. Kirstin currently sits on the boards of two technology companies. Kirstin has previously been the CEO of a global consulting company, a senior executive at a leading corporate law firm, and spent nearly 10 years as an Officer in the Royal Australian Air Force. Kirstin’s second book, Head & Heart: The Art of Modern Leadership has been described as an “indispensable companion for every leader” and “the book we need right now.” A passionate advocate for women, diversity, and inclusion, Kirstin was responsible for sparking a viral social media campaign called #CelebratingWomen, and is the co-author of award-winning book, Women Kind. Kirstin writes a popular weekly column for The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age called Got a Minute? answering the nation’s work, leadership, and culture questions. In this podcast, she shares:Why great strategy begins with what she calls reading the roomWhat her research shows are the eight key attributes of an effective leaderWhy being the smartest person in the room can often backfireMany other practical advice for becoming an effective leader__________________________________________________________________________________________""-Kirstin Ferguson_________________________________________________________________________________________Episode Timeline:00:00—Introducing Kirstin + The topic of today’s episode2:20—If you really know me, you know that...3:09—What is your definition of strategy?4:47—What got you interested in strategy?5:40—How can people at every level become leaders?7:06—Could you explain why you titled your new book "the head and heart"?9:16—Could you break down the eight attributes of "head and heart" leaders?11:39—What does it look like to have too much empathy?12:55—What is your perspective on having confidence vs. humility when it comes to strategic decision-making?15:29—Having experienced both military and business realms, how has that shaped your perspective?19:49—How do you help people who don't feel ready to "step up" feel comfortable taking on a leadership role?21:48—What is the importance or cost of good leadership?23:15—How can people continue to learn from you and follow you?__________________________________________________________________________________________Additional Resources: Personal Page: https://www.kirstinferguson.com/Linkedin: Thank you to our guest. Thank you to our executive producer, Karina Reyes, our editor, Zach Ness, and the rest of the team. If you like what you heard, please follow, download, and subscribe. I'm your host, Kaihan Krippendorff. Thank you for listening.Follow us at outthinkernetworks.com/podcast
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Nov 4, 2022 • 27min

#66—Hermann Simon: Pricing Strategies in Uncertain Times—through Inflation and Beyond

Hermann Simon is the Founder and Honorary Chairman of Simon-Kucher & Partners, today the world’s leading price consultancy with 41 offices and 1600 employees. From 1995 to 2009 he served as the CEO and is the firm’s Honorary Chairman today. He is an expert in strategy, marketing and pricing and the only German in the “Thinkers50 Hall of Fame” of the most influential management thinkers in the world. In German-speaking countries he has been continuously voted the most influential living management thinker. The magazine Cicero ranks him in the top 100 of the 500 most important intellectuals. Hermann was a professor of business administration and marketing at the Universities of Mainz and Bielefeld (and a visiting professor at Harvard Business School, Stanford, London Business School, INSEAD, Keio University in Tokyo and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology).Hermann has published over 40 books in 30 languages, including world bestsellers on Hidden Champions and Price Management. His most recent books are True Profit! No Company Ever Went Broke from Turning a Profit, and Hidden Champions in the Chinese Century: Ascent and Transformation, both published by Springer Nature, New York. The new book Beating Inflation will be out this fall of 2022. In this podcast, he shares:The number one thing most companies get wrong when setting their pricing strategies How to deal with inflation, and how to know when and by how much to raise your prices How new technologies are opening up the possibility of evolving to new, innovative pricing models that we should be considering today __________________________________________________________________________________________"How does the willingness to pay change for customers [during inflation]? Do you have the pricing power to increase your prices without losing volume and customers?"-Hermann Simon_________________________________________________________________________________________Episode Timeline:00:00—Introducing Hermann + The topic of today’s episode2:12—If you really know me, you know that...2:47—What is your definition of strategy?3:30—What do companies typically get wrong when it comes to pricing?4:35—How do you approach communicating value when you are competing against many other bidders in the same industry?6:09—What is a "hidden champion?"7:05—What do you do when your competitors are behaving irrationally and engage in price wars?8:56—What do companies get wrong when it comes to pricing in an inflationary environment?11:26—How do you know by how much to change prices given a change in input prices during inflation?13:06—Could you explain your term "phantom profits" that helps people understand if they're ahead or behind a wave?14:37—Could you explain any pricing models that come to mind that are emerging that you recommend to clients?17:57—What are your thoughts on transparency in pricing? Is it a growing trend?20:59—There is the question of "fairness" when it comes to pricing (who puts in value vs. how much they extract when many players are involved). What are your thoughts on the topic?24:47—Is there anything we haThank you to our guest. Thank you to our executive producer, Karina Reyes, our editor, Zach Ness, and the rest of the team. If you like what you heard, please follow, download, and subscribe. I'm your host, Kaihan Krippendorff. Thank you for listening.Follow us at outthinkernetworks.com/podcast
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Oct 28, 2022 • 23min

#65—Vijay Govindarajan: Closing Possibility Gaps While Creating the Future

Vijay Govindarajan is the Coxe Distinguished Professor at Tuck School of Business at Dartmouth College and is a Faculty Partner in the Silicon Valley incubator Mach 49. He is widely regarded as one of the world’s leading experts on strategy and innovation. He is a New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestselling author. His most recent best seller is Three Box Solution.His Harvard Business Review articles “Engineering Reverse Innovations” and “Stop the Innovation Wars” won McKinsey Awards for best article published in HBR. His HBR articles “How GE Is Disrupting Itself” and “The CEO’s Role in Business Model Reinvention” are HBR all-time top-50 bestsellers. Vijay was named by Thinkers50 as a Top 3 Management Thinker in the world and received the Breakthrough Innovation Award in 2011. Vijay was inducted into Thinkers50 Management Thinkers Hall of Fame and was given the Distinguished Achievement Award for most contributions to the understanding of innovation in 2019. Vijay is the only recipient of Distinguished Achievement Awards in two different categories from Thinkers50. Vijay has worked with CEOs and top management teams in over 40% of the Fortune 500 companies to discuss, challenge, and escalate their thinking about strategy. He has been a keynote speaker in the BusinessWeek CEO Forum, HSM World Business Forum, TED, and World Economic Forum at Davos. Vijay received his doctorate from the Harvard Business School and was awarded the Robert Bowne Prize for the best thesis proposal. He received his MBA with distinction from the Harvard Business School. Vijay received his Chartered Accountancy degree in India where he was awarded the President’s Gold Medal for obtaining the first rank nationwide.In this podcast, he shares:Three rules companies should follow if they want to both protect their core businesses and build for the future Why it is so critical to erase institutional memoWhat the biggest possibility gap in the world today is—the metaverse—and why Why the metaverse will fundamentally change corporations and everything else__________________________________________________________________________________________"And this why my framework is easy to say, but not easy to do. It is nothing but common sense. But common sense is never common practice because my common sense message is: If you want to achieve your true potential in the year 2030, it's not about what you have to do in the year 2030. Future is now and, therefore, you have a conflicting situation that you have to manage."-Vijay Govindarajan_________________________________________________________________________________________Episode Timeline:00:00—Introducing Vijay + The topic of today’s episode2:37—If you really know me, you know that...4:55—What is your definition of strategy?5:28—Could you explain the "three-box solution"?10:25—Can an organization have both sides of the equation (possibility vs. performance gap) in an organization? How do you balance that?18:24—What role does box two—"stopping"—play?19:33—Could you talk to us on the background and implications of your books The Other Side of Innovation and Beyond the Idea?20:18—You seem to really have your pulse on what enterprises should Thank you to our guest. Thank you to our executive producer, Karina Reyes, our editor, Zach Ness, and the rest of the team. If you like what you heard, please follow, download, and subscribe. I'm your host, Kaihan Krippendorff. Thank you for listening.Follow us at outthinkernetworks.com/podcast
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Oct 21, 2022 • 26min

#64—Peter G. Klein: Organizational Design as a Competitive Advantage

Peter G. Klein is a Professor of Entrepreneurship at the Baylor University’s business school, and Faculty Director of Baylor's Baugh Center for Entrepreneurship and Free Enterprise. He is also Adjunct Professor of Strategy and Management at the Norwegian School of Economics and Carl Menger Research Fellow at the Mises Institute. Peter’s research focuses on the links between entrepreneurship, strategy, and organization, with application to innovation, diversification, vertical coordination, health care, and public policy. His work has appeared in numerous top journals from Academy of Management Review, to the Sloan Management Review. Peter’s 2012 book Organizing Entrepreneurial Judgment, received the 2014 Best Book Award from the Foundation for Economic Education. His upcoming book Why Managers Matter, being published in October 2022, focuses on how even though the decentralized, “startup” culture has been increasingly popular the last few decades, the creative use of authority and hierarchy helps companies to be more agile and flexible, enabling educated, motivated people and teams to thrive. Peter has also held faculty positions at the University of Missouri's Division of Applied Social Science and Truman School of Public Affairs, the Copenhagen Business School, among other academic posts. He was formerly a Senior Economist at the Council of Economic Advisers. He holds a PhD in economics from the University of California, Berkeley and a BA from the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill. In this podcast, he shares:Argues why this movement we are seeing toward decentralized organizations—flat hierarchies or no hierarchies—actually are not really flat Gives us a very clear answer to a critical question for anyone designing an organization: when and where is manager authority or centralized authority the better option to more open models What organizations need to do to unlock greater levels of intrapreneurship Why making profits depends on embracing uncertainty_________________________________________________________________________________________Episode Timeline:00:00—Introducing Peter + The topic of today’s episode2:22—What is your definition of strategy?3:41—What got you interested in strategy?5:04—Could you elaborate on your idea of "without uncertainty there would be no profits"?7:15—Do you think some companies are more equipped to take on risk than others?10:25—Are organizational structures becoming "flatter" or more layered, and why now?14:54—If the role of the manager changes to org design and directing, does strategy change and does leadership in essence change?17:50—Where do we expect to see hierarchy vs. non-hierarchy structures?23:18—How can people connect with you and follow your work?__________________________________________________________________________________________"The role of the manager is to design, implement, and force the organizational rules of the game. In other words, you're not playing the game for people, you're not making everyone's decision for him or for her, but rather you're putting people in the right places where they can use their abilities, and their human capital if you like."-Peter G. Klein__________________________________________________Thank you to our guest. Thank you to our executive producer, Karina Reyes, our editor, Zach Ness, and the rest of the team. If you like what you heard, please follow, download, and subscribe. I'm your host, Kaihan Krippendorff. Thank you for listening.Follow us at outthinkernetworks.com/podcast
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Oct 14, 2022 • 25min

#63—Julia Boorstin: Why Women Leaders Excel, and What We Can Learn

Julia Boorstin is the author of recently released book, When Women Lead. CNBC’s Senior Media & Tech Correspondent and has been an on-air reporter for the network since 2006. She also plays a central role on CNBC’s bicoastal tech-focused program “TechCheck” delivering reporting, analysis, and CEO interviews with a focus on social media and the intersection of media and technology. In 2013, Julia created and launched the CNBC Disruptor 50, an annual list she oversees, highlighting private companies transforming the economy and challenging companies in established industries. She also helped launch the network’s ‘Closing the Gap’ initiative covering the people and companies closing gender and diversity gaps. A graduate of Princeton University, she has been a reporter for Fortune magazine, as well as a contributor to CNN and CNN Headline News. She was also an intern for Vice President Gore’s domestic policy office. In this podcast, she shares:Key lessons from over 60 women CEOs and 300 research articles related to women and leadership Why we see so few women in leadership positions today (hint: a psychological concept called “pattern matching” has a lot to do with it)What unique leadership traits women leaders can bring to your strategy and company, and why they are so important, especially today _________________________________________________________________________________________Episode Timeline:00:00—Introducing Julia + The topic of today’s episode1:59—If you really know me, you know that...5:06—What is your definition of strategy?6:32—You talk about listening to diverse opinions. How do women bring this to leadership?8:55—Can you talk about the unique leadership approaches by women?12:22—Can you explain what the psychological term "pattern matching" means?14:36—What are some other leadership trips we haven't discussed yet that women bring to the workplace?16:16—Could you describe empathy in your own words?19:40—Of all the strategic advice you've gotten, what has really stuck with you?20:38—What is something we haven't covered you'd like to share?21:25—What is your suggestion for where to start for people dealing with these double standards?23:41—How can people connect with you?__________________________________________________________________________________________Additional Resources: Personal Page: https://juliaboorstin.comLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliaboorstin/Newest Book: https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1982168218Twitter: https://twitter.com/JBoorstinThank you to our guest. Thank you to our executive producer, Karina Reyes, our editor, Zach Ness, and the rest of the team. If you like what you heard, please follow, download, and subscribe. I'm your host, Kaihan Krippendorff. Thank you for listening.Follow us at outthinkernetworks.com/podcast

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