Payments Pros – The Payments Law Podcast

Keith J. Barnett, Carlin A. McCrory, Troutman Pepper Locke, Jason M. Cover
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Jan 28, 2026 • 29min

Payments Year in Review 2025: Federal and State Developments – Part 1

In the first installment of a two-part Payments Year in Review series, hosts Keith Barnett, Carlin McCrory, and Jason Cover highlight the key federal developments that shaped the payments industry in 2025 and preview what's ahead for 2026.They cover the evolving status of the CFPB's payday lending rule, shifting BSA/AML enforcement from federal agencies to increasingly active state regulators, and the CFPB's changing approach to earned wage access, including new guidance for certain employer-integrated models. The episode also examines the fallout from the voided FTC "Click to Cancel" rule and the agency's continued reliance on ROSCA and Section 5 to police auto-renewal and cancellation practices.The discussion wraps up with buy now, pay later (BNPL), focusing on the CFPB's rescinded advisory and New York's move to regulate BNPL more like traditional credit, setting the stage for Part 2's focus on state-level trends. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Jan 15, 2026 • 19min

Point-of-Sale Finance Series: Health Care Financing Compliance, Regulatory, and Privacy Pitfalls

In this crossover episode of Payments Pros and The Consumer Finance Podcast, guest host Taylor Gess dives into the rapidly evolving world of point-of-sale financing for medical and dental procedures with Troutman Pepper Locke Partners Jason Cover, Brent Hoard, and Erin Whaley. They unpack how HIPAA, business associate relationships, and information-sharing structures can impact financing programs in clinical settings. They explore state-level trends in California, Illinois, and New York, including new restrictions on provider involvement in financing, promotional offers, and payments. The discussion also highlights emerging risks around website tracking technologies, payment portals, and wiretapping-style lawsuits targeting digital health and payment ecosystems. Listeners will come away with a practical framework for structuring medical and dental financing arrangements, managing disputes, and anticipating the next wave of state-level regulation and enforcement. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Dec 4, 2025 • 25min

Point-of-Sale Finance Series: Solar Finance Under the Microscope

In this crossover episode of Payments Pros and The Consumer Finance Podcast, Jason Cover, Mark Furletti, and Andrew Thurmond return to unpack the complex landscape of residential solar finance. They highlight practical complications lenders face with home improvement projects involving power purchase agreements, leases, tax credit, retail installment contracts, renewable energy certificates, and more. The discussion also provides insight on trends in the solar industry, bankruptcy, the rise of solar disclosure requirements and state-level oversight, and compliance measures to mitigate risk. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Nov 14, 2025 • 21min

Point-of-Sale Finance Series: Understanding the Development and Regulation of Buy Now, Pay Later Products

In this crossover episode of Payments Pros and The Consumer Finance Podcast, guest host Taylor Gess is joined by Jason Cover and Jeremy Sairsingh to discuss buy now, pay later (BNPL) products as they continue to dive into the Point-of-Sale Finance Series. They highlight the complexities of BNPL offerings and the transformation of these payment models with varying fee structures and repayment terms. As these BNPL products mature, they challenge traditional definitions and regulatory frameworks, prompting a closer look at how consumers and providers are adapting to this financing option and its effects. With continuous industry innovations, regulators are working to keep pace, raising questions about the future direction of BNPL regulation and its impact. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Oct 29, 2025 • 19min

Point-of-Sale Finance Series: Banking on Lending Models

In this crossover episode of Payments Pros and The Consumer Finance Podcast, Chris Willis, Jason Cover, and Taylor Gess discuss licensed lending and bank model lending programs. This conversation dives into the benefits, challenges, and regulatory landscapes that shape these popular lending models for financial institutions and fintechs. Consumer finance providers will gain valuable insights on structuring successful lending partnerships in today's complex environment. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Oct 15, 2025 • 18min

The Future of Bank-Fintech Collaborations in Digital Finance

James Stevens, co-leader of Troutman Pepper Locke's Financial Services Industry Group, discusses the evolving partnerships between banks and digital asset firms. He highlights how banks facilitate fiat transactions and the potential of the GENIUS Act, which affects stablecoin reserves. The conversation also dives into how credit unions engage with fintechs, the regulatory responsibilities surrounding bank-fintech collaborations, and crucial due diligence processes. With insights on liquidity management and treasury operations, this talk unveils the future of digital finance.
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Sep 30, 2025 • 18min

The 1033 Shake-Up: CFPB's New Rulemaking Adventure

In this episode of Payments Pros, Carlin McCrory is joined by colleague Kim Phan to discuss the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau's (CFPB) recent developments regarding Section 1033 of the Consumer Financial Protection Act (CFPA). This summer, the CFPB initiated a new rulemaking process, inviting industry comments on its final rule concerning personal financial data rights. With a deadline of October 21 for public comments, industry participants are encouraged to weigh in on access to consumer financial information.Kim and Carlin discuss the strategic implications of the CFPB's reconsideration of the 1033 open banking rule, highlighting the agency's focus on consumer representatives, privacy, security, fee structures, and compliance timelines. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Sep 17, 2025 • 11min

Wage Wonders: Unraveling Payroll Mysteries With Nacha and State Insights

In this episode of Payments Pros, Keith Barnett discusses the complex interplay between payroll processing, Nacha rules, and state labor laws. Building on previous discussions about earned wage access (EWA), Keith examines common issues such as duplicate payments and overpayments, highlighting the importance of adhering to Nacha rules and state-specific labor laws. He explains how erroneous entries are defined under Nacha and the conditions under which reversals can be initiated.The episode also explores the challenges posed by state labor laws, particularly in California and New York, emphasizing the need for employers and processors to navigate both federal and state regulations carefully. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Sep 2, 2025 • 22min

Paddle's Payment Predicament: Unpacking FTC's Compliance Crackdown

In this episode of Payments Pros, hosts Keith Barnett and Carlin McCrory examine the recent $5 million settlement between the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) and Paddle.com, a UK-based payment processor. The discussion centers on the FTC's allegations against Paddle for violating the Restore Online Shoppers' Confidence Act (ROSCA) and the Telemarketing Sales Rule (TSR). Paddle's practice of aggregating merchant transactions under its own name led to significant compliance issues with card network rules and masked chargeback levels and disputes. The settlement imposes strict prohibitions on Paddle, including barring it from processing payments for tech support merchants and requiring enhanced client screening and monitoring.Keith and Carlin highlight the critical need for businesses to comply with card network rules. The FTC held Paddle responsible as the merchant of record for the noncompliant negative option billing practices of the merchants whose transactions it processed. The hosts stress the FTC's ongoing vigilance in the payments industry and urge companies to ensure adherence to all regulatory standards. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Aug 19, 2025 • 20min

Enhancing Card Partnerships and Compliance: A Conversation With Matthew Goldman

Matthew Goldman, founder of Totavi, LLC and publisher of CardsFTW, shares his expertise in fintech and operational compliance for card issuers. He discusses the daily responsibilities of maintaining compliance, emphasizing the importance of transaction tracking and fraud scrutiny. Goldman highlights the intricacies of bank-fintech partnerships and the need for effective communication. He also dispels myths about compliance costs, illustrating how compliance should be viewed as a revenue enabler. The conversation is packed with practical insights for navigating the complex payments landscape.

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