
Mountain Cloud Zen Podcasts
Santa Fe, NM
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May 9, 2025 • 44min
Dharma Talk: “The Refuge of No Refuge” with David Loy
In this talk, David explores the idea of refuge. To take refuge is to run away to a hiding place…Is that what we should do?
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Recorded on April 17th, 2025
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May 9, 2025 • 32min
Dharma Talk: “The single stone ten thousand feet down in the sea of Ise” with Maria Reis Habito
Zen is a practice to deeply explore and fully live our true Self. Might the Koan about the stone deep down in the sea of Ise be a helpful pointer in this exploration?
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Recorded on April 17th, 2025
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Apr 25, 2025 • 40min
Dharma Talk: Don’t Know, Can’t Know, Who Knows? with Shana Smith
In this talk, Shana takes us right into “don’t know mind” as a portal to discovering our true nature and the freedom inherent in simply being alive. By tasting this freedom, we become better able to live, function, and respond compassionately even through difficult times.
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Recorded on April 17th, 2025
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Apr 17, 2025 • 38min
Dharma Talk: The Benevolence of Awakening with Valerie Forstman
In this early spring talk, Valerie turns to the way of awakening, discovered and explored as this world – in the midst – just as it is. Not-two.
The talk weaves together a cross-section of experiences of homecoming with case 100 of the Book of Equanimity (Shoyoroku). In the case, Master Kaku of Roya receives the student’s question and responds in kind: “The essential state is pure and clear; how are mountains, rivers, and the great earth produced at once?”
How, indeed. Can we enter the wonder and embody it to the full?
Recorded on April 10th, 2025
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Apr 3, 2025 • 34min
Dharma Talk: “By Boat or By Land: Crossing over, fully arrived” with Valerie Forstman
In this talk, Valerie begins by revisiting themes from our recent sesshin – the wellspring of zazen, the intimacy of not-knowing, the peace that passes all understanding. The talk explores these themes by taking a fresh look at case 51 in the Book of Equanimity, ‘Hogen’s “Boat or Land,”’ Master Hogen’s question to a visiting monk elicits a response that resounds with the homecoming that is available to us all.
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Apr 3, 2025 • 37min
Dharma Talk: “Diversity, Equity, Inclusion and the ABC’s of Zen” with Shana Smith
In this teisho, Shana uses Ruben Habito Roshi’s “ABC’s of Zen” as parallels for Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. She then explores Case 43 of the Shoyoroku as a pointer into finding our own unique ways to support the healing of a seemingly divided world.
Shana will be leading a weekend retreat at Mountain Cloud in April – for more visit https://www.mountaincloud.org/event/intro-retreat-april-2025/
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Mar 11, 2025 • 33min
Dharma Talk: “Waking up to this threshold moment” with Valerie Forstman
In this talk, Valerie begins with poetry as a portal to the language of koans, a language that uses words to go beyond words. Koans don’t just describe or express the reality of who we truly are. They offer a turning word – a seed of awakening – that can open our eyes to that fundamental reality right in our midst. The talk will turn to case 12 in the Mumonkan (Gateless Gate), a single word that “juts forth” with the capacity to render the world just as it is – intimate and immediate, at once empty and full of wonder.
Recorded on March 6th, 2025
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Mar 6, 2025 • 46min
Dharma Talk: “What Moves?” with Valerie Forstman
Two monks debate whether it’s the flag or the wind that moves, while a Zen master reveals the truth lies in our minds. Valerie Forstman reflects on this ancient koan and its relevance in our tumultuous world. Topics include the nature of hope intertwined with personal struggles, the futility of silencing the mind, and the journey towards awakening. A poignant narrative about embracing suffering and interconnectedness unfolds, showing the transformative power of awareness and compassion amidst adversity.

Feb 25, 2025 • 39min
Dharma Talk: Love and Loss in a Seamless World with Valerie Forstman
A heartfelt tribute reflects on the life of a cherished community member. Zen teachings explore the interconnectedness of love, loss, and existence, inviting introspection. A poignant koan prompts reflection on honoring the departed while revealing insights into our true selves. Themes of emptiness are discussed as pathways to enlightenment, alongside a Zen tale illustrating the duality of grief and gratitude. The wisdom shared encourages embracing life's seamless nature amidst the complexities of loss.

Feb 19, 2025 • 31min
Dharma Talk: “Meeting Challenge with Equanimity” with Scott Thornton
In this talk, Scott draws from the Gateless Gate case 13, “Tokusan Carries His Bowls” as a case study for how we can meet mistakes, challenges, and misunderstandings with equanimity.
Recorded on February 13th, 2025
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