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Dharma Talk: “Freedom and the Sound of the Bell” with Carolyn Seburn

Nov 18, 2025
Explore the balance between the vastness of existence and the chaos of daily life. Delve into the significance of the Metta Sutta and its call for kindness. Discover the intriguing koan about the bell and its connection to ritual actions. Reflect on how sensory awareness can lead to deeper realizations. Carolyn discusses the paradox of oneness and difference, and how embracing our brokenness fosters compassion. Finally, learn about the transformative power of sitting practice in cultivating skillful responses to the world's challenges.
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INSIGHT

Vastness Beyond Rules

  • Unman points out the world is simultaneously vast, wondrous, and without fixed rules or holiness.
  • This paradox invites seeing ordinary rituals (bell, robe) as expressions within that boundless reality.
ANECDOTE

Meaning Of The Seven‑Paneled Robe

  • Carolyn explains the seven-paneled robe (kaesa) as a minor ceremonial garment, with panel count indicating formality.
  • She connects this detail to modern examples like wearing suits or scrubs for work roles.
ADVICE

Respond To The Moment

  • Do the ordinary tasks your situation asks of you, like standing for kinhin when the bell rings or feeding the cat.
  • Practicing small duties trains skillful responsiveness, not contradiction to realization.
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