
Everything Happens with Kate Bowler
Are you living your best life now? Not always? This is a podcast for you. Duke Professor Kate Bowler is an expert in the stories we tell about success and failure, suffering and happiness. She had Stage IV cancer. Then she didn’t. And since then, all she wants to do is talk to funny and wise people about how to live with the knowledge that, well, everything happens. Find her online at @katecbowler.
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Latest episodes

Jul 9, 2024 • 38min
Listen Again: Kwame Alexander—To Be Loved Like That
Bestselling author and poet, Kwame Alexander, discusses navigating grief, parental love, and sharing past experiences with kids. Exploring the complexities of relationships and expressing love in different ways, this heartfelt conversation delves into the beauty and challenges of love.

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Jul 2, 2024 • 30min
Suleika Jaouad: You Are Not The Bad Thing
Bestselling writer Suleika Jaouad and Kate Bowler discuss the challenges of being a cancer patient, creating better economies of love, and the toll illness takes on loved ones. They explore feelings of guilt, shame, and mercy, along with the importance of support in difficult times. The conversation delves into maintaining boundaries, managing relationships post-illness, and finding beauty and gratitude in vulnerability.

Jun 18, 2024 • 50min
Abigail Marsh: Extraordinary Empathy
Are some people more empathetic than others? By studying those on the opposite end of the compassion spectrum–those with psychopathy–researcher Dr. Abigail Marsh discovered something surprising. In this conversation, Kate and Abigail discuss: The usefulness of fear What it means to be “brave” How we can all learn to belong to one another The power of empathy (and why it actually feels good to give to others) This conversation originally aired in 2020, but is one we return to again and again as we think about how empathy expands our capacity for others. Listen for an update from Abigail on what her recent research is exploring. Watch clips from this conversation, read the full transcript, and access discussion questions by clicking here or visiting katebowler.com/podcasts. Follow Kate on Instagram, Facebook, or X (formerly known as Twitter)—@katecbowler. Links to social pages and more available at linktr.ee/katecbowler.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jun 4, 2024 • 34min
Heather Lanier: Whole and Holy
What if your life hasn’t turned out like you thought it would? When writer Heather Lanier’s daughter, Fiona, was born with a rare genetic syndrome, she learned that the world will not always see her beloved as good. In this conversation, Kate and Heather discuss how it’s okay that we are not summed up on bell curves. Perhaps the bodies in which we dwell are whole enough. In this conversation, Kate and Heather discuss: When our kids are considered “bad” by the world’s standards The doctor who said two perfect words to Heather How the divine sees everyone as good (and how we should seek to see through those same eyes) The difference between capacity building and deficit building This conversation originally aired in 2020, but it is one we return to again and again for its beauty, its honesty, its courage. Watch clips from this conversation, read the full transcript, and access discussion questions by clicking here or visiting katebowler.com/podcasts. Follow Kate on Instagram, Facebook, or X (formerly known as Twitter)—@katecbowler. Links to social pages and more available at linktr.ee/katecbowler.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

May 21, 2024 • 37min
Sunita Puri: The Uncertainty Specialist
Pain is like a geography—one that isn’t foreign to palliative care physician, Dr. Sunita Puri. Kate and Sunita speak about needing new language for walking the borderlands and how we all might learn to live—and die—with a bit more courage. In this conversation, Kate and Sunita discuss: How to walk with one another through life’s ups and downs—especially health ups and downs What “palliative care” means (and how it is distinct from hospice) The difference between what medicine can do and what medicine should do Sunita’s script for how to talk to patients facing difficult diagnoses This conversation originally aired in 2020 but it is one of our all-time favorites. Watch clips from this conversation, read the full transcript, and access discussion questions by clicking here or visiting katebowler.com/podcasts. Follow Kate on Instagram, Facebook, or X (formerly known as Twitter)—@katecbowler. Links to social pages and more available at linktr.ee/katecbowler.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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May 7, 2024 • 54min
Justin Yopp and Don Rosenstein: The Magic of “We”
Clinicians Justin Yopp and Don Rosenstein discuss the unique needs of grieving parents, ways to talk to kids about cancer, and the magic of coming together in times of sorrow. They explore the challenges of reconstructing imagined futures after loss and share practical insights on parenting while coping with cancer.

Apr 30, 2024 • 42min
Judy Woodruff: How Will We Live Our Beautiful, Terrible Days?
American broadcast journalist Judy Woodruff joins Kate Bowler to discuss navigating through life's ups and downs. They explore the power of apologies, the fragility that unites us, and how to be more empathetic towards those we disagree with.

Apr 23, 2024 • 46min
Samantha Bee: This is Going to Be(e) a Great Story
We become the sum of so many people throughout our lives. Kate speaks with one of the funniest people on the entire planet, comedian Samantha Bee, about the people who made her, her. What virtues did they create? What absurdity ensued? How does she think about how she impacts her own kids? In this conversation, Kate and Samantha discuss: Samantha's hand of God moment that changed the trajectory of her life How the people who love us shape us into who we become What siblings or friends or partners teach us about intimacy Watch clips from this conversation, read the full transcript, and access discussion questions by clicking here or visiting katebowler.com/podcasts. Follow Kate on Instagram, Facebook, or X (formerly known as Twitter)—@katecbowler. Links to social pages and more available at linktr.ee/katecbowler.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 16, 2024 • 1h
Pamela Morris-Perez: Suicide Prevention and Hope
Here on the Everything Happens Podcast we don’t shy away from difficult subjects, and today’s episode tackles a topic we’ve been wanting to discuss for awhile—suicide among teens and young adults. My guest today, Dr. Pamela Morris-Perez is someone who approaches this subject with the heart of a grieving mom and the mind of a professor and practitioner who wants to make change possible and wants to teach us how we can help. This is such an important conversation on how communities can help prevent adolescent suicide. In this conversation, Kate and Pamela discuss: Poignant reflections on being a suicide loss survivor from a parent who is grieving the loss of her child—a topic so rarely discussed Why we say “died by suicide” How we can prevent teen suicide—including what signs to look for, what to ask, and next steps to take when you’re concerned In a very important way, this episode won’t create nearly as much anxiety as you think. Talking about suicide is one of the most important ways of making it less likely. So let’s find better language together, shall we? If you need to talk to someone, call or text 988. If you are worried about someone, you too can call or text 988 to get resources. Remember: you matter. Please listen with care. Watch clips from this conversation, read the full transcript, and access discussion questions by clicking here or visiting katebowler.com/podcasts. Follow Kate on Instagram, Facebook, or X (formerly known as Twitter)—@katecbowler. Links to social pages and more available at linktr.ee/katecbowler.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 9, 2024 • 40min
Chantal Kreviazuk: Finding the Melody
Canadian singer Chantal Kreviazuk discusses setting boundaries in families, the challenges and rewards of marriage, and coping with mental health struggles. She shares wisdom on dealing with hurting family members and finding positivity in difficult situations.
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