Leaked

As the world moves on, some of the most serious questions haven’t gone away — they’ve just gone quieter. In this episode of Leaked, documentary director Jenner Furst reconnects with Richard Ebright and Bryce Nickels, two scientists who’ve spent decades studying how dangerous research fails — and what happens when no one wants to take responsibility.Together, they talk through lab safety breakdowns, unanswered questions around COVID’s origins, the risks scientists are still tracking behind the scenes, and why accountability remains elusive.To go deeper in the conversation, watch Thank You, Dr. Fauci now at www.angel.com/guild/join/thank-you-dr-fauci To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jenner Furst, a filmmaker known for directing the documentary *Thank You, Dr. Fauci*, joins the conversation to delve into the alarming intersections of virology and AI. He discusses Dr. Robert Redfield's warnings about bird flu and the dangers of gain-of-function research. The talk highlights how these threats may already be adapting beyond our control. Jenner also reflects on societal divides caused by COVID-19 and emphasizes the need for community connection and accountability in response to these looming crises.

Payne Lindsey dives into the convoluted world of infectious disease outbreaks, drawing parallels between anthrax, Ebola, and COVID-19. He reveals buried emails that hint at early scientists' concerns and explores how the same experts consistently reappear in narratives. The tension within scientific circles is highlighted through Slack messages and pivotal private calls. From lab safety to historical oversight, the discussion raises alarming questions about funding conflicts and future pandemic preparedness. The episode warns that past mistakes may not be learned from without accountability.

Dr. Robert Redfield, a clinical virologist and former CDC director, shares his insights on the controversial origins of SARS-CoV-2. He discusses the potential implications of gain-of-function research, arguing that the virus might have been engineered. Redfield calls for a moratorium on such research and highlights the necessity for better biosecurity measures. He recounts his conflicts with Anthony Fauci about the origins investigation and argues that the scientific community must confront its moral responsibilities in high-risk research.

Jenner Furst, a documentary filmmaker known for his work on Thank You, Dr. Fauci, joins to unravel the complex origins of the COVID-19 pandemic. He shares insights from his film, highlighting missing information that shaped public understanding. They delve into the early debates between lab leak and natural origins, discuss how the media mismanaged pandemic guidance, and reveal potential suppression of dissenting scientific voices. Jenner emphasizes the importance of questioning the narratives to uncover truths about funding and power during the crisis.

What if the biggest crisis of our lifetime is still missing the truth? In Leaked, host Payne Lindsey dives into the untold stories behind the COVID-19 pandemic and the lingering questions that still demand answers. This gripping limited series cuts through the noise to uncover what really happened—and why we still don’t know the full story. To learn more about and watch "Thank You, Dr. Fauci" visit www.angel.com/guild/join/thank-you-dr-fauci To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices