

In Pursuit of Development
Dan Banik
Step into conversations that travel across continents and challenge the way you think about progress. From democracy and inequality to climate resilience and healthcare, Dan Banik explores how societies navigate the complex terrain of democracy, poverty, inequality, and sustainability. Through dialogues with scholars, leaders, and innovators, In Pursuit of Development uncovers how ideas travel, why policies succeed or fail, and what it takes to build a more just and resilient world. Expect sharp insights, candid reflections, and a global perspective that connects local struggles to universal aspirations.
Listen, reflect, and be inspired to see global development in a new light. 🎧
Listen, reflect, and be inspired to see global development in a new light. 🎧
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Mar 29, 2023 • 48min
The European Union and global development — Johanne Døhlie Saltnes
The European Union is collectively the biggest provider of international aid in the world, contributing over € 50 billion a year to the fight against poverty and the advancement of global development. However, while the EU’s capacities and impact in foreign and security policy have been extensively discussed among scholars and policymakers, its role in promoting global development has attracted less attention. Our guest has focused her research on the contestation of international norms and values, particularly the promotion of human rights norms in the EU’s development policy.In identifying the limits to the EU’s approach, her recent book discusses how standardised policies, particularly in the case of human rights sanctions, may be perceived as neo-colonially intrusive and can come at the cost of recognising the experiences and interests of vulnerable groups and allowing for partner countries’ democratic ownership of their own development trajectory. Johanne Døhlie Saltnes is a lecturer and collaborating researcher at the Institute for International Relations (IREL) at the University of Brasilia. She was previously a post-doctoral fellow at ARENA, Centre for European Studies, at the University of Oslo. Her book, The European Union and Global Development: A Rights-Based Approach?, was published in 2021 by Routledge. Johanne is the academic editor of ECPR’s political science blog, The Loop. Twitter: @johannesaltnesKey highlights:Introduction - 00:55The current status of the Human Rights-Based Approach to development - 04:10The EU as a global development player- 07:42The application of the EU's human rights clause - 15:56Impact of applying a human rights-based approach in national contexts - 38:00Host:Professor Dan Banik, University of Oslo, Twitter: @danbanik @GlobalDevPodApple Google Spotify YouTubehttps://in-pursuit-of-development.simplecast.com/
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Mar 22, 2023 • 58min
Banking on Beijing — Axel Dreher
China plays a crucial role in the development policies of many countries around the world. It offers grants and loans, and builds major infrastructure projects such as roads, bridges, power plants, parliament buildings, hotels, and football stadiums. A new book claims that that much of the conventional wisdom about Chinese development finance rests on untested assumptions, individual case studies, and incomplete data sources. The authors argue that Beijing’s use of debt rather than aid to bankroll big-ticket infrastructure projects certainly creates new opportunities for developing countries to achieve rapid socioeconomic gains. However, such actions also introduce major risks, such as corruption, political capture, and conflict. Axel Dreher is a Professor of International and Development Politics at Heidelberg University, Germany. Together with Andreas Fuchs, Bradley Parks, Austin Strange and Michael Tierney, Axel co-authored Banking on Beijing: The Aims and Impacts of China's Overseas Development Program (Cambridge University Press, 2022). Twitter: @DreherAxelKey highlights:Introduction - 00:50On why is it hard to find data on Chinese aid and investments - 04:04Chinese aid, motives, and soft power- 09:40The methods for unpacking Chinese aid data - 24:30Understanding the transition from "benefactor" to "banker" - 32:00The need and long-term viability of big infrastructure projects - 43:44Host:Professor Dan Banik, University of Oslo, Twitter: @danbanik @GlobalDevPodApple Google Spotify YouTubehttps://in-pursuit-of-development.simplecast.com/
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Mar 18, 2023 • 54min
Africa’s youth in the race for climate action — Hilda Flavia Nakabuye
Fridays For Future is a youth-led movement that began in August 2018. This movement was inspired by 15-year-old Greta Thunberg and other young activists, who sat in front of the Swedish parliament every school day for three weeks, to protest against the lack of action on the climate crisis. While Greta has become a household name, there are many other young activists around the world who are also making a vital contribution by pressuring their governments to undertake climate action. Our guest – Hilda Flavia Nakabuye – is one of these inspiring young African leaders. While pursuing her university studies in Kampala, Hilda began to acquire a nuanced understanding of the causes of unpredictable rainy seasons, frequent heatwaves, droughts and floods that she had witnessed growing up in southern Uganda. Indeed, she began connecting the dots and realized that much of what she and her family had experienced (and what her country continues to experience) was and is caused by climate disruption. She therefore decided to become a climate and environmental rights activist and founded Uganda’s Fridays for Future movement in 2019. Twitter: @NakabuyeHildaF @Fridays4FutureUResourcesFridays for FutureFridays for Future Uganda Key highlights:Introduction - 00:38How to promote both development and protect the environment - 04:00Growing climate activismamong Africa’s youth- 08:56The menace of air pollution - 24:30Uganda’s oil and the East African Crude Oil Pipeline - 35:40 Host:Professor Dan Banik, University of Oslo, Twitter: @danbanik @GlobalDevPodApple Google Spotify YouTubehttps://in-pursuit-of-development.simplecast.com/
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Mar 15, 2023 • 50min
Poverty and the new threat to prosperity — Indermit Gill
Indermit Gill, an expert in global poverty reduction, discusses the increase in extreme poverty and income inequality due to the pandemic. He explores the Golden Age of Development, evolving debates on economic development and climate change, strategies for poverty reduction, challenges faced by natural resource-rich countries, and innovations in social protection policies.

Mar 11, 2023 • 55min
Rethinking "evidence" — Eivind Engebretsen and Mona Baker
In the past few decades, we have witnessed the rise and consolidation of “evidence-based medicine” among health professionals. This refers to a systematic approach to medicine in which doctors and other health care professionals use the best available scientific evidence from clinical research to help make decisions about the care of individual patients. But the COVID-19 pandemic has managed to transform what constitutes reliable medical evidence into a topic of public concern and debate. These debates have taken place within and beyond the medical establishment, such as in news reports and social media posts. And suddenly everyone began offering an opinion on the efficacy of measures such as quarantines, lock downs, school closures, and mandatory face masks. How then should we understand “evidence”? Does evidence mean the same thing in different contexts and constituencies? In their new book, Rethinking Evidence in the Time of Pandemics: Scientific Vs Narrative Rationality, and Medical Knowledge Practices, Eivind Engebretsen and Mona Baker argue that we ought to adopt a more nuanced and socially responsive approach to medical expertise that incorporates scientific and lay processes of making sense of the world and how we decide to act in it. Using the narrative framework, they offer a model of analysis that sheds greater light on why different people arrive at different decisions based on the same sources of evidence and why we must acknowledge their reasons for doing so as rooted in different types of rationality rather than dismissing them as irrational. Eivind Engebretsen is a Professor at the Faculty of Medicine, University of Oslo, where he is also the Executive Chairman of the Centre for Sustainable Healthcare Education.Mona Baker is Director of the Baker Centre for Translation and Intercultural Studies at Shanghai International Studies University. She is also affiliated with the Centre for Sustainable Healthcare Education at the University of Oslo. Host:Professor Dan Banik, University of Oslo, Twitter: @danbanik @GlobalDevPodApple Google Spotify YouTubehttps://in-pursuit-of-development.simplecast.com/
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Mar 8, 2023 • 1h 2min
Locally led development and the future of aid — Håvard Mokleiv Nygård
The global development domain currently faces huge challenges. Apart from trying to stimulate economic growth and ensuring a fair distribution of the benefits of that growth, national governments and their international partners must also tackle complex conflicts, provide humanitarian assistance, and not least address the harmful impacts of climate disruption. What then should the role of external actors be? How can good intentions be best mobilized into effective actions on the ground?Håvard Mokleiv Nygård is a Deputy Director-General of the Norwegian Agency for Development Cooperation, Norad, where he directs the Department of Knowledge. Until a few years ago, he was Research Director at the Peace Research Institute Oslo (PRIO), where his research focused on armed conflict and political violence, peace building, and patterns of democratic development. Twitter: @havardmnResources:Joint statement by donors on locally led development (December 2022)Norwegian aid statistics (Norad.no)Key highlights Introduction - 00:49Foreign aid vs. development cooperation - 04:52Locally led development - 13:10The aid effectiveness debate - 24:15What works in global development and how to measure success - 43:49Bridging the gap between research and policy and the future of aid - 52:45Host:Professor Dan Banik, University of Oslo, Twitter: @danbanik @GlobalDevPodApple Google Spotify YouTubehttps://in-pursuit-of-development.simplecast.com/
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Mar 1, 2023 • 58min
The Wild World of WhatsApp — Jamie Hitchen
The role of social media in spreading political misinformation has received considerable attention. But various forms of social media also facilitate and enable participatory democracy across boundaries. They help to hold leaders to account as well as provide channels for airing the needs and demands of marginalised communities and vulnerable groups. These demands can sometimes even be propelled to the centre of public debates. While there has been considerable focus on Twitter and Facebook, the private messaging application WhatsApp has emerged as a especially popular medium for inter-personal communication. But WhatsApp has not received the attention it deserves. What is so special about WhatsApp and how and why has it emerged as the main form of communication for a wide range of actors on the African continent? Jamie Hitchen is an independent research analyst and Honorary Research Fellow at the University of Birmingham. He has written extensively on social media in West Africa and recently co-edited a volume with Idayat Hassan entitled WhatsApp and Everyday Life in West Africa: Beyond Fake News. Twitter: @jchitchenResourcesSocial Media Disruption: Nigeria’s WhatsApp Politics, Journal of Democracy (2020)If blackouts don’t work, what might? Tackling fake news in West Africa, African Arguments (2022)Host:Professor Dan Banik, University of Oslo, Twitter: @danbanik @GlobalDevPodApple Google Spotify YouTubehttps://in-pursuit-of-development.simplecast.com/
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Dec 26, 2022 • 9min
Christmas special – The acronisation game
While much of the success of the show is due to my fabulous guests, I am also lucky to have a wonderful team to assist me at the University of Oslo. I wish to in particular thank Kristoffer Ring, our IT guru, and Oda Fagerland, Bella Reid, and Eliska Sottova for research assistance and transcripts.My colleague Desmond McNeill, who was on the show earlier this year discussing the power of ideas and metaphors in international development policy, has invented a game which he calls “acronisation”. The game is designed to test your knowledge about international organizations and bilateral aid agencies. If you can identity 10 acronyms or more, Desmond would be delighted to receive an e-mail from you latest by the 11th of January. Please write to Desmond at: desmond.mcneill@sum.uio.noHappy holidays! Host:Professor Dan Banik, University of Oslo, Twitter: @danbanik @GlobalDevPodApple Google Spotify YouTubehttps://in-pursuit-of-development.simplecast.com/
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Dec 21, 2022 • 52min
Just copy us! Why can’t the rest of the world be more like Scandinavia? — Harald Eia
Scandinavian countries are well-known for high standards of living and many people wonder about the origins of the welfare state model in Scandinavia and why it has worked so well. The features of the welfare state in Denmark, Norway, and Sweden typically include high state spending, strong universal public services, and relatively high equality in gender roles.But what explains the success of this model of development and how did these countries get to where they are today? These are some of the questions my guest – Harald Eia – tries to answer in a recent book co-authored with Ole-Martin Ihle. The book – The Mystery of Norway – discusses how Norway became one of the most prosperous countries in the world. It focuses on the relationship between wealth and happiness, and the power of civil society and trade unions in negotiating wages and a range of benefits. The book also highlights the important role played by The Norwegian Labour and Welfare Administration – popularly known in Norway by its acronym – NAV, which administers a third of the national budget through schemes such as unemployment benefit, work assessment allowance, sickness benefit, pensions, child benefit and cash-for-care benefit.Harald Eia is a sociologist and became a household name in Norway in the mid-1990s having starred in several hit comedy shows. He has since then been one of the country's most popular and well-known comedians. Key highlights Introduction - 00:52Is there a Norwegian model of development? - 03:18Origins and functions of the welfare state in Norway: 06:22Can money make you happy? 20:20Relative poverty in one of the world's wealthiest countries: 28:30Immigration: 35:13Host:Professor Dan Banik, University of Oslo, Twitter: @danbanik @GlobalDevPodApple Google Spotify YouTubehttps://in-pursuit-of-development.simplecast.com/
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Dec 14, 2022 • 58min
Contemporary state building and elite taxation in Latin America — Gustavo Flores-Macías
While many Latin American states have experienced severe public-safety crises in the context of fiscal duress, elite engagement in state building has taken place in some countries but not in others. Why is that the case?In explaining the adoption of elite taxes for public safety, Gustavo Flores-Macías argues that the conventional crisis-centered explanations are insufficient. Whereas economic elites are generally reluctant to shoulder a greater tax burden, public-safety crises can soften this opposition – when they affect elites directly – and thereby open the door to negotiations with the government. However, the deterioration of public-safety conditions is not enough to elicit elite taxation. Rather, the resulting tax arrangement will depend on the strength of business–government linkages in the form of formal and informal collaboration mechanisms. When linkages are weak, elite taxation is likely to fail, if attempted at all. Stronger linkages will make elite taxation more likely.Gustavo Flores-Macías is a Professor of Government and Public Policy and Associate Vice Provost for International Affairs at Cornell University. His latest book is Contemporary State Building: Elite Taxation and Public Safety in Latin America. Twitter @Gustavo_F_M Key highlights Introduction - 00:52Contemporary state building in Latin America - 04.00Economic elites in Latin America – 12.34Elites as an obstacle to state building - 19.04Determinants of fiscal reforms and elite taxation - 25.46Differentiation of public safety from other public goods - 34.50Taxing elites, the El Salvador case - 46.50How to mobilise security tax for development and welfare – 52.26Host:Professor Dan Banik, University of Oslo, Twitter: @danbanik @GlobalDevPodApple Google Spotify YouTubehttps://in-pursuit-of-development.simplecast.com/
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