
Switched on Pop
A podcast all about the making and meaning of popular music. Musicologist Nate Sloan & songwriter Charlie Harding pull back the curtain on how pop hits work magic on our ears & our culture. From Vulture and the Vox Media Podcast Network.
Latest episodes

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Jun 10, 2025 • 48min
Frankly, Sinatra still matters (with Seth MacFarlane)
Seth MacFarlane, creator of Family Guy and a talented singer, discusses his deep admiration for Frank Sinatra and his new album Lush Life: The Lost Sinatra Arrangements. They explore Sinatra's legendary impact on pop music and culture, including his pioneering role in creating the concept album. MacFarlane shares insights into uncovering hidden musical gems from Sinatra's archives, revealing how the Chairman of the Board’s legacy continues to resonate with modern artists across various genres. Sinatra’s influence on today's music is more significant than many realize.

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Jun 3, 2025 • 46min
Is the future of pop...heavy metal?!
A surprising phenomenon is reshaping the music landscape as Sleep Token, a masked heavy metal band, hits commercial success in 2025. Their latest album blends metal with pop elements, provoking both acclaim and backlash from critics. The band’s unique theatricality and complex soundscapes invite discussion on evolving genre definitions. Tensions between commercial appeal and artistic integrity unfold as they navigate the shifting narratives in metal, expanding its audience. Is this a bold new direction for pop, or more evidential of metal's adaptability?

May 27, 2025 • 39min
Charli XCX threw this party 4 us
The podcast dives into Charli XCX's resurgence in pop culture, fueled by her electrifying performances and viral hits. It explores the unique creative process behind her pandemic album, highlighting her innovative engagement with fans. Listeners are treated to an analysis of the layered lyrical themes in 'party 4 u,' revealing a complex mix of celebration and vulnerability. The discussion also emphasizes how music reflects our collective yearning for connection in the post-pandemic world, showcasing catchy hooks that make her tracks irresistible.

10 snips
May 25, 2025 • 28min
808: The drum machine that changed music forever (Twenty Thousand Hertz)
Dallas Taylor, founder of Defacto Sound and host of '20,000 Hertz', and DJ Jazzy Jeff, the legendary hip-hop icon, dive into the revolution brought by the TR-808 drum machine. They unravel its unlikely journey from being overlooked in the early '80s to becoming a vital force in music across genres like hip hop and pop. Discover how this iconic instrument shaped sounds we know today and hear fascinating anecdotes from musicians who embraced its unique characteristics, cementing the 808's legacy in modern music.

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May 20, 2025 • 52min
Chartbreakers: Lorde & Drake reboot, Worship Pop, and the shortest song ever
The podcast explores the intriguing blend of worship pop and nostalgia on the Billboard charts. Drake's strategic reset and soul revivals highlight a cultural shift. Listeners are treated to insights on dreamy tracks from The Marias and the bizarre 34-second Minecraft hit. The discussion critiques the originality of worship pop while examining Pharrell's influence on modern artists. Themes of loneliness and connection resonate through today's music, reflecting our collective anxieties and evolving tastes.

May 13, 2025 • 39min
‘Sinners’ summons the demons of American music
Dive into a unique vampire musical that celebrates Black music and the blues in 1930s Mississippi. The film intertwines horror and history while showcasing a rich musical heritage. Discover the complex roots of 'Pick Poor Robin Clean,' revealing its ties to African-American folk traditions. Explore how racial categorizations influence music and culture, highlighting connections between African American and Irish folk genres. The discussion also covers the significant revival of blues, alongside personal music aspirations and the thrill of new instruments.

May 6, 2025 • 43min
Eurovision feast: Poison Cake, Milkshake Man, and Espresso Macchiato (featuring Tommy Cash)
Join avant-garde rapper Tommy Cash, Estonia's Eurovision 2024 contender, as he shares insights on his quirky entry, "Espresso Macchiato." Discover how he blends humor and stereotypes about coffee into his music. The discussion encompasses the evolution of Eurovision, highlighting unique performances like Sweden's sauna-themed act and Austria's 'Wasted Love.' Tommy dives into the creative processes shaping these eclectic songs, making a case for the absurdity and celebration within the competition's landscape.

May 1, 2025 • 55min
Put your headphones on for TikTok's Addison Rae
Despite TikTok defining this decade's music landscape, the app hasn't spawned a bonafide pop superstar – yet. 24-year-old Addison Rae is trying to be the first.
She's already had cosigns from Arca, Charli XCX, and Benny Blanco; critical acclaim from outlets like Pitchfork, Rolling Stone, and Elle; and is cultivating a fervent fanbase with a slew of breathy, ethereal, and inspiration-laden singles. But how does one translate TikTok celebrity into pop success?
On this episode of Switched On Pop, Reanna, Nate, and Charlie put their "Headphones On" to understand how one of the biggest Gen-Z celebrities is trying to parlay her allure into pop princess-dom.
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SONGS DISCUSSED
Addison Rae – Diet Pepsi
Addison Rae – Aquamarine
Addison Rae – High Fashion
Addison Rae – Headphones On
Addison Rae – Obsessed
Charlie Puth – The Way I Am
Michael Jackson – Smooth Criminal
Addison Rae – I got it bad
Addison Rae – Nothing On (But The Radio)
Addison Rae – it could've been u
Addison Rae – 2 die 4 (feat. Charli XCX)
Charli XCX, Addison Rae, A. G. Cook – Von dutch a. g. remix
Lana Del Rey – Blue Jeans
Lana Del Rey – Cherry
Lana Del Rey – Diet Mountain Dew
Lana Del Rey – Bartender
Lana Del Rey – Cola
Madonna – Nothing Really Matters
Selena Gomez, A$AP Rocky – Good For You
Edie Brickell & New Bohemians – What I Am
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21 snips
Apr 22, 2025 • 1h 5min
Generation Taylor: Gracie, Maisie, Phoebe (with Jensen McRae)
In this engaging discussion, singer-songwriter Jensen McRae, known for her albums 'Are You Happy Now?' and 'I Don't Know How But They Found Me,' shares insights on Taylor Swift's massive influence on a new generation of artists. They delve into the unique songwriting styles of Gracie Abrams, Maisie Peters, and Phoebe Bridgers, all inspired by Swift's specific lyrics and emotional storytelling. The conversation also explores the significance of bridges in songwriting and how Swift's authenticity resonates profoundly with emerging musicians, including McRae herself.

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Apr 15, 2025 • 47min
Music's New Success Model
LP Giobbi, a jazz-trained pianist and activist, Nabil Ayers, president of Beggars Group, and Dani Deahl, a DJ and creator insights leader at BandLab, discuss the evolution of the music industry towards niche markets. They explore how artists are building dedicated fanbases outside of mainstream hits, the rise of diverse sounds within the dance music scene, and the vital role of indie stores in community engagement. The conversation highlights the importance of authenticity, representation, and the supportive environment fostered by movements like FemHouse.