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Bryan Orr
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Mar 7, 2025 • 46min

A Conversation with NAVAC at AHR 2025

In this engaging episode of the HVAC School Podcast, host Bryan sits down with Jesse from NAVAC to dive deep into the evolving landscape of refrigeration technology, focusing primarily on the transition to A2L refrigerants. The conversation offers a refreshingly pragmatic approach to addressing industry concerns about these new, mildly flammable refrigerants, dispelling myths and providing practical insights for HVAC technicians. The discussion begins by addressing the most pressing question for many technicians: Do you need to buy all new tools to work with A2L refrigerants? Jesse from NAVAC provides a nuanced response, emphasizing that while there are currently no regulations mandating new equipment, the company has proactively developed tools that are safety-certified and compatible with the new refrigerant types. They explore the intricacies of safety certifications like UL and CSA, explaining the differences between UL Listed and UL Verified, and highlighting the importance of intrinsically safe equipment, especially for tools like vacuum pumps and recovery machines. NAVAC's approach goes beyond mere product promotion, with Jesse positioning himself as an educator first. The podcast delves into the technical details of A2L refrigerants, challenging common misconceptions and providing context about their flammability. Bryan and Jesse draw parallels with previous refrigerant transitions, noting how technicians were initially skeptical about R-410A but eventually adapted. They emphasize the importance of best practices, proper training, and understanding the actual risks associated with these new refrigerants, rather than succumbing to fear-based narratives. The episode also showcases NAVAC's latest technological innovations, including smart probes, a Bluetooth scale, a smart valve for charging and recovery, and an advanced vacuum pump with a one-touch oil testing feature. These tools represent the company's commitment to improving technician efficiency and safety, with features that address real-world challenges faced by HVAC professionals. Key Topics Covered: A2L Refrigerants Myths and misconceptions about flammability Comparison with previous refrigerant transitions Safety considerations and best practices Safety Certifications Differences between UL Listed and UL Verified Importance of intrinsically safe equipment CSA and ETL certifications NAVAC's New Tools Smart probes with Bluetooth connectivity Advanced vacuum pump with automatic oil testing Flex manifold with digital accuracy and analog feel Battery-operated pumps with improved run times Industry Trends Preparation for A2L and future refrigerant transitions Regulatory changes and efficiency standards Importance of technician education and adaptation Additional Insights: No current regulations require new tools for A2L refrigerants Proper training and best practices are crucial Technicians should focus on understanding new technologies Safety is about awareness and proper procedures, not fear Have a question that you want us to answer on the podcast? Submit your questions at https://www.speakpipe.com/hvacschool. Purchase your tickets or learn more about the 6th Annual HVACR Training Symposium at https://hvacrschool.com/symposium. Subscribe to our podcast on your iPhone or Android. Subscribe to our YouTube channel. Check out our handy calculators here or on the HVAC School Mobile App for Apple and Android
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Mar 6, 2025 • 54min

VRF Tech Talk Takeover

Roman Baugh and Donald Falese from VRF Tech Talk podcast takeover the HVAC School booth at AHR EXPO 2025. Join them as they talk about the new VRF products being unveiled, water cooled VRF up's and down's and why VRF is such a difficult trade work in. You will not want to miss this one! Highlights include: Daikin's innovative modular air handler for residential applications Hisense's groundbreaking single-phase VRF system with integrated hot water heating New NFC technology for easier system diagnostics and commissioning Updates on vapor injection technology and inverter developments The emergence of air source heat pump chillers Latest innovations from manufacturers like Gree, TCL, Cooper Hunter and more Whether you're a seasoned VRF technician or just getting started with inverter technology, this discussion covers everything from basic principles to cutting-edge developments in the industry. Roman and Donald break down complex technologies into understandable concepts while sharing their firsthand experience with the latest products at the expo. Don't miss this opportunity to stay up-to-date with the future of HVAC technology! Have a question that you want us to answer on the podcast? Submit your questions at https://www.speakpipe.com/hvacschool. Purchase your tickets or learn more about the 6th Annual HVACR Training Symposium at https://hvacrschool.com/symposium. Subscribe to our podcast on your iPhone or Android. Subscribe to our YouTube channel. Check out our handy calculators here or on the HVAC School Mobile App for Apple and Android
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Mar 4, 2025 • 19min

Bill Spohn / TruTech Symposium and AHR Recap

Join us for a candid conversation with Bill Spohn from TruTech Tools at AHR Expo 2025! Bill shares exciting news about his planned retirement and transition plan for TruTech Tools, plus gives his insights on this year's 6th Annual HVAC/R Training Symposium where TruTech Tools was the title sponsor. We discuss the unique community atmosphere of both the Symposium and AHR Expo, exploring what makes these events special for the HVAC industry. In this livestream, we dive into: Bill's announcement about transitioning TruTech Tools leadership to his son over the next 3 years A detailed recap of HVAC School Symposium and what made it successful Thoughts on building authentic industry communities and fostering connections Leadership insights and maintaining vision while giving team members agency Perspectives on AHR Expo 2025 and why it matters for HVAC professionals Don't forget to use offer code GETSCHOOLED for a great discount at trutechtools.com! Have a question that you want us to answer on the podcast? Submit your questions at https://www.speakpipe.com/hvacschool. Purchase your tickets or learn more about the 6th Annual HVACR Training Symposium at https://hvacrschool.com/symposium. Subscribe to our podcast on your iPhone or Android. Subscribe to our YouTube channel. Check out our handy calculators here or on the HVAC School Mobile App for Apple and Android
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Mar 3, 2025 • 46min

UEI at AHR: Carbon Monoxide Safety and Combustion Analysis

In this informative podcast episode, Bryan from HVAC School is joined by Louise Keller, the National Training Manager for UEI Test Instruments, to discuss the critical importance of carbon monoxide safety and proper combustion analysis. The conversation begins with lighthearted banter about the previous night's Tactical Awards ceremony before diving into the serious topic of CO dangers and detection. Louise shares valuable insights about the dangers of carbon monoxide exposure, particularly at lower levels that might not trigger standard home CO alarms. She explains that CO poisoning can mimic many other conditions, including early-onset Alzheimer's, traumatic brain injury, and mobility issues. Bryan adds historical context by recounting how many Victorian-era "ghost stories" and fainting episodes coincided with the introduction of gas lighting in homes, suggesting these phenomena were likely CO poisoning symptoms. He also shares the little-known story of Walt Disney's parents, who tragically died from carbon monoxide poisoning in a house that Disney built for them. The discussion shifts to practical applications, with Louise explaining the proper use of combustion analyzers and the importance of regular recertification. They emphasize that visual inspection alone is not sufficient for safety, and proper testing is essential for both client safety and equipment efficiency. The conversation concludes with information about UEI's ServicePlus Guaranteed program, which offers extended warranty coverage, same-day recertification turnaround, transparent pricing, and convenient shipping for analyzers. Key Topics Covered: The dangers of carbon monoxide as an odorless, colorless, and tasteless gas How low-level CO exposure can cause serious health issues that mimic other conditions The limitations of standard home CO alarms, which typically won't trigger until reaching 70 PPM for 1-4 hours Proper combustion analyzer startup procedures (starting outside in fresh air) The importance of checking all combustion appliances in a home (furnaces, water heaters, ovens, etc.) Best practices for comprehensive testing, including "appliance sweep tests" Historical context of CO poisoning, including connections to Victorian ghost stories UEI's ServicePlus Guaranteed program for analyzer recertification and warranty extension The importance of regular recertification to ensure accurate readings and maintain warranty coverage Tips for helping clients schedule regular maintenance and safety checks Have a question that you want us to answer on the podcast? Submit your questions at https://www.speakpipe.com/hvacschool. Purchase your tickets or learn more about the 6th Annual HVACR Training Symposium at https://hvacrschool.com/symposium. Subscribe to our podcast on your iPhone or Android. Subscribe to our YouTube channel. Check out our handy calculators here or on the HVAC School Mobile App for Apple and Android
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Feb 28, 2025 • 35min

What's New With Copeland at AHR

In this episode of the HVAC School podcast, Bryan sits down with James and Jeff from Copeland to discuss the evolution and capabilities of Copeland's mobile applications, particularly focusing on the Copeland Mobile app and the new Scout feature. James, who has been with Copeland for 28 years, and Jeff, who works as a trainer, share their extensive knowledge about how these tools can benefit HVAC technicians in the field. The conversation begins with a historical perspective on Copeland's service bulletins, which have been a valuable resource for technicians since the 1980s. The guests explain how these bulletins have evolved from being difficult to access to becoming readily available through the Copeland Mobile app. They discuss how the app has become an essential tool for technicians, allowing them to access critical information about compressors, including operating envelopes, current draw specifications, and troubleshooting guides. The discussion then moves to the exciting new features in the Copeland Mobile app, including the integration of Fault Finder and the introduction of Scout, an AI-powered search tool that draws exclusively from Copeland's database. Scout not only provides answers to technical questions but also points users to relevant resources and documentation. The guests emphasize how these tools can help reduce unnecessary compressor replacements, noting that 30-40% of returned compressors have nothing wrong with them. Key Topics Covered: Evolution of Copeland service bulletins from paper to digital format Features of the Copeland Mobile app, including: Operating envelope visualization Current draw specifications Compressor cross-reference tools Warranty status checking Mechanical specifications and oil charge information Wiring diagrams and troubleshooting guides Introduction of Scout AI-powered search feature Integration of Fault Finder into the main app Using the app for training technicians Importance of proper compressor diagnostics Accessing technical documentation and AE (Application Engineering) bulletins New camera feature for scanning compressor data tags Desktop version functionality for service managers White Rogers mobile applications Warranty tracking and parts availability features Have a question that you want us to answer on the podcast? Submit your questions at https://www.speakpipe.com/hvacschool. Purchase your tickets or learn more about the 6th Annual HVACR Training Symposium at https://hvacrschool.com/symposium. Subscribe to our podcast on your iPhone or Android. Subscribe to our YouTube channel. Check out our handy calculators here or on the HVAC School Mobile App for Apple and Android
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Feb 27, 2025 • 36min

Good QC, Startup, and Punchout Processes

In this episode, Bryan is joined by guests Jacob and JD to discuss quality control (QC), punch out procedures, and best practices in HVAC installation and service. The conversation delves deep into the various aspects of maintaining high standards in workmanship, from aesthetic considerations to technical performance metrics that affect system longevity. The discussion begins with an exploration of workmanship quality and how to instill pride in work among team members. The guests share insights about the importance of company culture in maintaining high standards, emphasizing that quality control isn't just about catching mistakes but about fostering an environment where everyone takes ownership of their work. They discuss how photo documentation can be a powerful tool for quality control, allowing team members to review work remotely and catch issues that might be missed in the field. The conversation then shifts to the more technical aspects of quality control, particularly focusing on procedures that affect system longevity but might not be immediately visible to clients. This includes proper brazing techniques, pulling adequate vacuums, and proper system charging. The guests emphasize the importance of having a culture where team members hold each other accountable for following proper procedures, even when cutting corners might be tempting. The episode concludes with a detailed discussion about working with inspectors and handling code compliance, offering practical advice for maintaining good relationships with authorities having jurisdiction (AHJ) while ensuring work meets all necessary standards. Key Topics Covered: Importance of workmanship appearance and aesthetic quality Role of company culture in maintaining high standards Using photo documentation for quality control Technical procedures that affect system longevity Methods for ensuring proper installation procedures are followed Dealing with inspectors and code compliance Characteristics of good punch-out personnel Balance between production speed and quality Importance of praise and constructive criticism in quality control Strategies for reducing punch list items Building relationships with inspectors Handling code interpretation disagreements Value of being a trades generalist for punch work Impact of workmanship on inspector relationships Have a question that you want us to answer on the podcast? Submit your questions at https://www.speakpipe.com/hvacschool. Purchase your tickets or learn more about the 6th Annual HVACR Training Symposium at https://hvacrschool.com/symposium. Subscribe to our podcast on your iPhone or Android. Subscribe to our YouTube channel. Check out our handy calculators here or on the HVAC School Mobile App for Apple and Android
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Feb 25, 2025 • 11min

Static Mistakes - Short #232

In this short podcast episode, Bryan covers some common mistakes when measuring static pressure. Static pressure is balloon pressure, not CFM or velocity pressure, but it can be an airflow indicator. The best way to start learning about static pressure is to start measuring total external static pressure. Gas furnaces and heat pumps are different; static pressure is rated at the furnace in the former (not the cased coil, which is additional), and the static pressure includes the coil in a heat pump. The highest static pressure will always be at the blower, but restrictions on either side of the blower will raise static pressure on both sides of the blower. Dirty components can drop the total external static pressure, which is a common point of confusion that can lead to misdiagnosis. You'll want to determine static pressure at the blower and across components. If you want to determine if a cased evaporator coil is clogged, you can measure the static pressure drop across the coil (by measuring below and above the coil) and compare it to the manufacturer's specifications. Dirty blower wheels can also cause problems, as they don't move much air in the first place. Lower static pressure at the blower is the best for amp draw and airflow, and our system designs and accessories can support low static pressure. Dialing in airflow, putting your probes in the right positions when you measure static pressure, proper register and grille selection, and minimally restrictive filters all go a long way. Have a question that you want us to answer on the podcast? Submit your questions at https://www.speakpipe.com/hvacschool. Purchase your tickets or learn more about the 6th Annual HVACR Training Symposium at https://hvacrschool.com/symposium. Subscribe to our podcast on your iPhone or Android. Subscribe to our YouTube channel. Check out our handy calculators here or on the HVAC School Mobile App for Apple and Android
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Feb 24, 2025 • 31min

Santa Fe Talks Dehumidification at AHR 2025

In this insightful discussion at AHR 2025 in Orlando, Bryan connects with Nikki Krueger from Santa Fe dehumidifiers, exploring the evolution and importance of whole-house dehumidification in modern HVAC systems. Nikki, who has spent 20 years in the indoor air quality industry, shares her journey from a public relations background to becoming deeply involved in the technical and engineering aspects of dehumidification technology. She highlights the groundbreaking work of Ken Gehring, who invented whole-house ventilating dehumidifiers in the mid-1990s and continues to be actively involved in the industry at 84 years old. The conversation delves into the changing landscape of home construction and its impact on dehumidification needs. As houses become tighter due to building codes and energy efficiency requirements, the relationship between air conditioning and dehumidification has become more complex. They discuss how modern, high-efficiency AC systems often struggle with effective dehumidification due to their focus on temperature control and energy efficiency. This challenge is particularly evident in cases where AC units have higher sensible heat ratios, meaning they're better at changing temperature than removing moisture. A significant portion of the discussion focuses on the technical aspects of sizing and installing dehumidifiers correctly. Nikki emphasizes the importance of understanding true dehumidifier capacity under different conditions, noting that a unit's performance varies significantly based on temperature and humidity levels. The conversation also covers the evolution of ventilation requirements in modern homes and Santa Fe's response with new products featuring larger fans and eight-inch ventilation ducts to better match dehumidification capacity with ventilation needs. Key Topics Covered: The history and evolution of whole-house dehumidification The relationship between modern AC systems and dehumidification challenges The importance of proper sizing and installation of dehumidifiers How building codes and tighter construction affect moisture control needs The role of ventilation in modern dehumidification systems The impact of temperature on dehumidifier performance ratings Common installation mistakes and best practices The significance of dew point versus relative humidity The challenges of maintaining specific relative humidity levels in homes New developments in dehumidifier technology, including larger ventilation ducts The importance of proper data and performance metrics in system design Resources for contractors and technicians learning about dehumidification Have a question that you want us to answer on the podcast? Submit your questions at https://www.speakpipe.com/hvacschool. Purchase your tickets or learn more about the 6th Annual HVACR Training Symposium at https://hvacrschool.com/symposium. Subscribe to our podcast on your iPhone or Android. Subscribe to our YouTube channel. Check out our handy calculators here or on the HVAC School Mobile App for Apple and Android
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Feb 21, 2025 • 1h 10min

Catching Up with Fieldpiece and Refrigeration Technologies at AHR

In this special episode from the 2025 AHR Expo, Bryan brings us two fascinating conversations with industry leaders who are shaping the future of HVAC technology and tools. The episode kicks off with Tony Gonzalez from Fieldpiece celebrating their 35th anniversary. Tony shares his remarkable journey from packaging meters in the warehouse to his current leadership role, providing unique insights into the company's evolution. The discussion explores Fieldpiece's pioneering role in developing HVAC-specific testing equipment, particularly highlighting their groundbreaking HS26 meter that filled a crucial gap in the industry when no other company was creating specialized meters for HVAC technicians. The conversation with Tony delves deep into the technical aspects of modern HVAC work, particularly focusing on combustion analysis and its three fundamental pillars: safety, efficiency, and consistency. Tony explains how Fieldpiece's JobLink system has revolutionized the way technicians document their work and communicate with customers through comprehensive digital reporting. The discussion also covers the evolution of refrigerants and POE oils, emphasizing how practices that weren't considered critical in the past have become essential with modern systems and materials. In the second segment, Bryan sits down with Mike and Ashley from Refrigeration Technologies' Viper division, where they share the compelling origin story of their company. Mike recounts how his father, John Pastorello, a chemist who found himself taking an AC technician job in the 1980s, leveraged his chemistry background to develop superior products, starting with their flagship product, Big Blu. The conversation highlights Refrigeration Technologies' impressive growth, including their recent expansion to a campus-like facility with an additional 30,000 square feet and their achievement of making the Inc. 5000 list for three consecutive years. Ashley, their Director of Education and Brand Management, discusses their innovative approach to industry engagement, including their first-ever "Viper Bowl" competition and their commitment to safety in product development. Key Topics Covered in This Episode: Fieldpiece's 35-year journey and the evolution of HVAC-specific testing equipment Modern combustion analysis fundamentals and the importance of proper testing The JobLink system and its impact on documentation and customer communication Evolution of refrigerants, POE oils, and critical installation practices Refrigeration Technologies' origin story and growth from a family business to an industry leader Development and innovation of essential HVAC chemicals and tools under the Viper brand The importance of safety in product formulation and application Global expansion and market reach in the HVAC industry Impact of modern technology on HVAC diagnostics and documentation Training approaches and industry education initiatives Company cultures focused on innovation and problem-solving The role of family businesses in advancing HVAC technology Have a question that you want us to answer on the podcast? Submit your questions at https://www.speakpipe.com/hvacschool. Purchase your tickets or learn more about the 6th Annual HVACR Training Symposium at https://hvacrschool.com/symposium. Subscribe to our podcast on your iPhone or Android. Subscribe to our YouTube channel. Check out our handy calculators here or on the HVAC School Mobile App for Apple and Android
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Feb 20, 2025 • 45min

From Plumber to HVAC Owner w/ Manly Arnanson

In this episode, Bryan speaks with Manly, an HVAC professional from Manitoba, Canada, about his journey from working in his family's plumbing business to running his own HVAC company. Manly shares his experiences working in extreme cold weather conditions, where temperatures can drop to -30°C (-22°F), and discusses the unique challenges and emergency response strategies required in such a heating-dominated market. The conversation delves deep into the ethical aspects of running an HVAC business, with both Bryan and Manly sharing their Christian perspectives on business ethics, customer service, and professional integrity. They discuss the importance of honest communication with customers, admitting mistakes, and making decisions based on customers' needs rather than purely financial motivations. Manly emphasizes how his faith influences his business practices and decision-making, particularly when advising customers about repairs versus replacements. The discussion also explores the importance of continuous learning and professional development in the HVAC industry. Manly describes his experience returning to school in his forties to complete his air conditioning mechanic certification, highlighting how the industry requires constant adaptation and learning. Both professionals stress the value of building community within the trade and the importance of sharing knowledge to help others avoid making the same mistakes they've encountered. Key Topics Covered: Working in extreme cold weather conditions (-30°C/-22°F) Emergency heating solutions using construction heaters The transition from plumbing to HVAC Challenges of equipment sizing and customer education Business ethics and Christian principles in HVAC Importance of admitting mistakes and maintaining integrity Continuous learning and professional development Building community in the HVAC industry Balancing profit motives with customer needs Manitoba's two-tier licensing system for HVAC technicians Parts availability challenges and creative solutions Role of humility in professional growth Value of proper education and training in HVAC Have a question that you want us to answer on the podcast? Submit your questions at https://www.speakpipe.com/hvacschool. Purchase your tickets or learn more about the 6th Annual HVACR Training Symposium at https://hvacrschool.com/symposium. Subscribe to our podcast on your iPhone or Android. Subscribe to our YouTube channel. Check out our handy calculators here or on the HVAC School Mobile App for Apple and Android

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