

HVAC School - For Techs, By Techs
Bryan Orr
Real training for HVAC ( Heating, Ventilation, Air Conditioning and Refrigeration) Technicians. Including recorded tech training, interviews, diagnostics and general conversations about the trade.
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Jul 4, 2019 • 42min
Effects of Dewpoint on Coil TD and More MQ Updates w/ Jim B
Jim Bergmann is back on the podcast to talk about the effects of dew point on coil TD. He also gives us a full rundown on recent MeasureQuick updates and what to expect in the future. When you see flags in MeasureQuick, those indicate symptoms of specific problems. MeasureQuick cannot outright diagnose equipment; it can only offer variables and educate the user based on the symptoms it notices. Red flags are major faults, and yellow flags are minor faults or functions of the installation (such as long line sets), but Jim wanted to make the flags communicate information more effectively. While Jim Bergmann worked on the sensible and latent targets, he learned more about the relationship between the dew point and coil TD. In high-humidity conditions, dropping the airflow and dew point temperature can overload the coil with humidity enough to affect the DTD by a few degrees. So, Jim had to tweak the MeasureQuick algorithm to account for those conditions. When water is on the coil, a lot of heat transfer occurs because water has such a high specific heat value. The compressor can't keep up, and you can experience high suction pressure and high discharge pressure in high-latent conditions. The increase in suction pressure drives up the TD. MeasureQuick has recently focused on defining targets, making the app work with new probes, and working on a cloud service that allows the user to store information, share data, and benchmark systems. Jim and Bryan also discuss: MeasureQuick feedback Sensible and latent removal targets Relative humidity and dew point Diagnostic algorithms and variables Communicating information through a rapidly developing app MeasureQuick cloud service Monetization High airflow and duct leakage scenario Learn more about Refrigeration Technologies HERE. If you have an iPhone, subscribe to the podcast HERE, and if you have an Android phone, subscribe HERE.

Jul 2, 2019 • 11min
Short #61 - EPR vs. CDS Valves
Bryan talks about EPR and CDS valves. We consider both to be evaporator pressure regulators, but they really function quite differently. CDS are Sporlan components that appear to be quite similar to evaporator pressure regulators (EPRs). EPRs go in the suction line and control the evaporator pressure. The pressure and temperature relate to each other, so the goal is to keep the evaporator from freezing by controlling the pressure. However, EPRs rely on a pressure drop across them to be able to do their job, so compression ratios will increase, impacting power consumption. We primarily see EPR valves in supermarket refrigeration on rack systems. Electronic EPRS (EEPRS) include the Sporlan CDS valve. However, EEPRs do NOT actually measure the pressure in the evaporator coil in the same way that a standard EPR does. (However, they are evaporator flow regulators.) The pressure of an EPR is fixed via mechanical parts, but the CDS valve relies on a signal from the controller to set targets depending on the air temperature. The CDS valve can modulate via a stepper motor to maintain a certain target. Sporlan CDS valves have a lot of benefits. For example, you can reset or adjust the CDS valve without manually adjusting it; you can easily adjust the controls. CDS valves also don't require a pressure drop because they do not rely on a mechanical process to work. If you encounter modulation issues with your CDS valves, you can power cycle them. Sporlan SORIT valves have a separate solenoid, but the stepper motor allows the CDS valves to close fully. Overall, CDS setups can save a lot of energy and are quite easy to use because of their integration with controls. Unfortunately, they are prone to failure from power surges. Learn more about Refrigeration Technologies HERE. If you have an iPhone, subscribe to the podcast HERE, and if you have an Android phone, subscribe HERE.

Jun 27, 2019 • 37min
Blends and Midpoint w/ Jim Bergmann
Jim talks about dew point, bubble point, and midpoint in refrigerant blends. He also covers the purpose of each and why MeasureQuick displays midpoint on the gauges. We've formerly used mostly pure refrigerants. However, as new refrigerant blends come on the scene, we have to deal with glide, which indicates that we have a range of boiling temperatures instead of a fixed boiling point. We have bubble point and dew point, which are when the refrigerant starts to boil and finishes boiling, respectively; you generally use dew point to determine the superheat and bubble point to determine the subcooling. Zeotropic refrigerants have larger glides than near-azeotropic refrigerant blends; azeotropes have no glide at all. The midpoint is the halfway point between the bubble point and dew point in refrigerant blends. Coil temperature typically corresponds with the midpoint. To find the midpoint of refrigerant in the condenser coil, add the dew and bubble points and divide the sum by two. The process is a bit trickier on evaporator coils. In the evaporator, you run refrigerant through the metering device and get some flash gas; when the refrigerant undergoes that change, the bubble and dew points change. As a result, the midpoint becomes a bit more weighted towards the dew point (60%). In MeasureQuick, the temperature-pressure charts go a step above and beyond to give you the superheat, subcooling, and midpoint. The midpoint is the effective temperature of the evaporator coil, which is a critical piece of information in refrigeration systems where food products are at stake. You can also use the midpoint for coil DTD and TD. Jim and Bryan also discuss: R-410A and near-azeotropic refrigerants Metering devices as reactive components Coil temperature misconceptions and uncertainty Pressure differentials and drops in the system Maintaining food quality in refrigeration MeasureQuick mathematical models and formulas Learn more about Refrigeration Technologies HERE. If you have an iPhone, subscribe to the podcast HERE, and if you have an Android phone, subscribe HERE.

Jun 25, 2019 • 16min
Short #60 - How Cold Should it Get Inside?
In this short podcast, Bryan discusses the ever-controversial topic of indoor temperature in the summer. The old "20-degree rule" has come up many times, and it's time to put it to rest. Not to be confused with the 20-degree delta T rule, the 20-degree rule basically states that the home A/C system can only maintain temperatures up to 20 degrees below the outdoor temperature. For example, if the ambient temperature is 95°F, the indoor temperature should be able to stay around 75°F. However, that differential is not a fixed value. For example, if the outdoor temperature were to reach 105°F when the unit has 95° design conditions, the system capacity would decrease. The unit will not perform as expected, putting out fewer BTUs than it would under design conditions. Design conditions also account for latent load; that is why A/C systems in the arid Southwest USA can keep up with much hotter ambient temperatures than those in humid Florida. In Florida, we design for a higher latent load and must avoid oversizing; these conditions take away from designed equipment's sensible capacity. Correct sizing prevents short cycles and keeps humidity at bay. As it gets colder outside, an HVAC system will also have a lower heating capacity. Heat is a function of the temperature differential; heat may enter or leave the home via conduction (through walls) or radiation (through windows), and it will attempt to reach equilibrium. The only way to get around these heat gains and losses is to check the expanded performance data and perform load calculations (Manual J) to design the ideal system. You must design the equipment to maintain a specific differential under a standard set of conditions. Learn more about Refrigeration Technologies HERE. If you have an iPhone, subscribe to the podcast HERE, and if you have an Android phone, subscribe HERE.

Jun 20, 2019 • 35min
Suction Pressure in Market Refrigeration
Nathan Orr is back. In this podcast, we discuss suction pressure in market refrigeration and how rack techs think about it differently than HVAC. On parallel rack systems, suction temperature helps technicians determine the cooling load and how to get that to temperature. You run your discharge air temperature a bit lower than the product temperature. Your suction pressure also lets you know if your coil is reaching the correct temperature. Coil temp, also called suction saturation temperature (SST), is a vital metric for rack system operation. Lower suction pressure indicates a lower coil temperature or SST. The evaporator pressure regulating valves help control the evaporator pressure to manipulate the evaporator temperature. Compressors also help drive suction pressure, which is critical because racks may have several of them. When you walk into a rack room, you may see around five compressors. All suction lines tie into a single suction header (same goes for discharge and liquid lines and headers). Typically, the rack is constructed to maintain the SST even if a compressor goes down. When the SST no longer maintains, there will be a "rack down" call. If a case is not keeping temperature without an apparent rack issue, you want to take your superheat at the case to get an idea of the suction. The superheat, SST, and suction pressure will be your key indicators of problems, including defrost issues, clogged TXV strainers, and airflow problems. Overall, rack refrigeration systems work best with high suction pressure and low liquid pressure. Nathan and Bryan also discuss: TD in rack refrigeration Setting EPR valves Rack sizing "Rack down" calls Troubleshooting produce cases Holdback valves Frozen cases Using dry steam Learn more about Refrigeration Technologies HERE. If you have an iPhone, subscribe to the podcast HERE, and if you have an Android phone, subscribe HERE.

Jun 18, 2019 • 10min
Short #59 - Low Static Can Be Bad
In this short podcast episode, Bryan explains why low static pressure may be bad. He also discusses the other indicators of airflow. When you look at fan charts, you'll notice that there will be an available static value. When you measure static pressure, you're looking for the pressure applied against the sides of the duct, not forward through the duct (velocity). Low static pressure is generally desirable because it indicates that the fan motor isn't working as hard to move the appropriate amount of air. In that same vein, slightly oversized ducts may be okay for these uses as well. However, low static is not always a good thing; you can only use it as an indicator for performance in standard operation. If the system is moving less air, then the static definitely WILL be lower. In normal operation, that may not be the case. You may also not be moving enough air, which can indicate an issue with the blower. In other words, you must be sure that the airflow is correct through other means than static pressure readings. Airflow has so many indicators, and using just one won't suffice. You'll also have to use your senses to listen for issues and familiarize yourself with the system operation; determining system airflow requires a multi-pronged approach. Bryan also discusses: Duct vs. face velocity Variable-speed equipment Thermostat calls and their effect on the blower Learn more about Refrigeration Technologies HERE. If you have an iPhone, subscribe to the podcast HERE, and if you have an Android phone, subscribe HERE.

Jun 13, 2019 • 1h 2min
Can a Residential Tech Transition to Market Refrigeration?
Nathan and Bryan have a rollicking conversation about Nathan's transition from residential HVAC to market refrigeration. Nathan also covers what he has learned along the way. Hopefully, his experiences can help you decide if moving to market refrigeration may work for you. Before Nathan went into market refrigeration, he handled problem customers and repeat issues on the residential HVAC side. He worked on zoning systems and mini-splits quite often. Even in that time, he did minor work on supermarket projects if the team needed an extra person. Market refrigeration projects require full scopes of work and time constraints, complicate the transition from residential HVAC work. Market refrigeration primarily deals with rack systems. Rack refrigeration systems are different from residential HVAC systems because they require less of an understanding of heat transfer; refrigeration techs need more mechanical knowledge and may rely on many rules of thumb. Tactile skills are essential for refrigeration, but an understanding of the scientific fundamentals is less important. Although there are plenty of opportunities for increased profits in market refrigeration, the losses are also fast and harsh. The customer relationship is also perhaps even more important in market refrigeration because the service (and customer) options tend to be more limited. You may also expect to sacrifice more time due to the urgency of supermarket work. While you don't have to work yourself to death, you should definitely expect to have less time and to reschedule plans quite often if you make the transition to market refrigeration. Nathan and Bryan also discuss: Sight glasses vs. subcooling Cost of mistakes Acceptable vs. unacceptable outcomes for customers Overhiring vs. underhiring Rack replacement Difference in standards Replacing TXV parts Motors in refrigeration Hands-on skills and relevant professions Good and bad practices in refrigeration Working hours Learn more about Refrigeration Technologies HERE. If you have an iPhone, subscribe to the podcast HERE, and if you have an Android phone, subscribe HERE.

Jun 11, 2019 • 22min
Short #58 - A Fair Price
In this short podcast episode, Bryan covers pricing for HVAC/R parts and services; he explains how to come up with a fair price. To be able to price fairly, we need to understand what value and sacrifice look like. In the HVAC industry, we value hard work and growth in a way that some other people don't. We provide parts and labor and sell those in the free market, so we can control how much we charge for those. The price of a part means NOTHING in the industry. Instead, we primarily set prices based on labor, which is much more value-based. The customer has the right to accept or decline the service based on the price, and some customers WILL decline the service based on price. In the end, the customers can choose to agree or disagree with your opinion of value. Some people will object to the idea that customers know what a price is truly worth. However, Bryan is of the school of thought that almost no price is "unfair." As long as the customers have different companies to choose from, they have the right to shop around and pick a price that works for them. It is not the responsibility of the company to reduce its prices to attract customers. Remember, you need to think about pricing in terms of value and honesty; customers who also value your work will pay for it. If your services are superior, there is nothing wrong with keeping your prices high to reflect the value of your work. Bryan also covers: Learning about economics Supply and demand vs. price gouging Reinvesting in the business Sales vs. technical excellence Markup vs. gross margin Learn more about Refrigeration Technologies HERE. If you have an iPhone, subscribe to the podcast HERE, and if you have an Android phone, subscribe HERE.

Jun 6, 2019 • 42min
Preventing and Mitigating Legionnaires' disease
We talk with chemical and cleaning expert Ray Field on Legionnaires' disease. We discuss what it is, its history, and what we can do to prevent it proactively. Cooling towers host all kinds of microorganisms, including harmful bacteria like Legionella. Legionella is a natural bacteria that you can find in bodies of freshwater, including lakes, but it was discovered relatively recently, in the 1970s. We become susceptible to Legionnaires' disease when we inhale droplets that contain Legionella. Legionnaires' disease causes pneumonia-like symptoms and is potentially fatal. Cooling towers, unfortunately, provide perfect conditions for Legionella to survive and aerosolize. Decorative fountains and evaporative coolers also provide ideal conditions for Legionella to grow and thrive. Unsurprisingly, cleaning with special attention to microbe control helps mitigate Legionella bacteria growth. Bleach and anti-microbial peroxide help keep the water clean, but the bulk water is just one part of the system. When Legionella-filled water sprays beyond the tower, slime and water accumulations may also harbor Legionella. Inspecting and cleaning towers monthly are the best practices. Vacuum the basin and descale the tower each time you clean the tower; when you clean slime, deposits, and scale, you give Legionella fewer places to hide. You can also disinfect the tower exterior. Pressure-washing works well as a starting point and can be followed up with chemical technology. Overall, the key to preventing Legionnaires' disease is proactivity; safety begins with a regular maintenance regimen, use of proper PPE, and thorough training for cleaning procedures. Ray and Bryan also discuss: Legionella growth assistance History of Legionnaires' disease Ideal Legionella growth conditions ASHRAE Standard 188P Fill deposits Goodway products to combat Legionella Legionella testing and CDC guidelines Learn more about Goodway HERE. Learn more about Refrigeration Technologies HERE. If you have an iPhone, subscribe to the podcast HERE, and if you have an Android phone, subscribe HERE.

Jun 4, 2019 • 12min
Short #57 - Ductless Cleaning Guide
In this short podcast episode, Bryan covers ductless or mini-split cleaning. He collaborated with SpeedClean to map out this procedure and write a guide, which you can read HERE. Cleaning is ultimately a maintenance procedure, so one of the main goals is to keep energy efficiency high (watts per BTU). You can test energy efficiency by using two psychrometers: one up top and one going into the vanes. You can check the delta T and fan charts to determine the performance. Overall, you clean ductless units to improve system performance, equipment longevity, and indoor air quality. Be clean; wear shoe covers and put down drop cloths in the customer's home. First, you confirm the system operation and do a visual/auditory inspection. Then, make sure you have all of the PPE you need, especially goggles and gloves. Usually, you will clean the evaporator, blower wheel, air filters, and condenser coil. Pay attention to the drain and condensate pump as well; they can clog and negatively affect your system. We often use the bib kit indoors. When you use one of those bib kits, you can clean the evaporator (and sometimes the blower wheel) in place. The bib goes over the ductless unit, so cleaning is seamless and shouldn't make a mess as it runs off into a bucket. We recommend using a pump sprayer like the SpeedClean CoilJet; bringing a hose in can cause a mess and is impractical. When you've finished cleaning, make sure you let everything dry completely. We like to keep plenty of rags on us so that we can wipe everything down. After you think everything has dried, you can test the system. (It's a good idea to keep the bib on at first to prevent the unit from splashing liquid everywhere.) Learn more about SpeedClean HERE. Learn more about Refrigeration Technologies HERE. If you have an iPhone, subscribe to the podcast HERE, and if you have an Android phone, subscribe HERE.