
The Other Way
Hello and welcome to The Other Way, a women's lifestyle podcast that explores uncommon, unconventional, or alternative approaches in life, health, spirituality, and work. Here, you can expect real, raw conversations with founders, researchers, trailblazers, experts in medicine, spiritual teachers, and all-around inspiring humans on the journey of doing things our way. It may not be “the way,” but it is the other way. So, if you’re like us and feel called to listen to that deeper voice - you’re in the right place. Welcome.
Latest episodes

May 28, 2024 • 33min
072: SOLO EP: [FEMININE FLOW] Cycle Syncing, productivity, personal development, & meditation
What if aligning your daily routine with your hormonal cycles could transform your productivity and well-being? Today I'm diving into a solo episode providing an update on life, spirituality, and how cycle syncing (or cyclical living) has changed my life. This solo episode of The Other Way explores how embracing your natural rhythms can be a game-changer, especially within a patriarchal society that often overlooks the unique needs of women - and the cycles of nature. Today I'll be covering:
Life, business, and spirituality updates (including my deepening meditation practice and how it's been shifting my life!)
Cycle syncing: what it is, how it works, and how "feminine" productivity and "feminine time" can look like
I walk through each phase of the cycle with TIPS!
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May 21, 2024 • 57min
071: [HEALTH] Holistic Cancer Prevention + the female hormone link with Dr. Nalini Chilkov
Hi, dear friends. This week, I have a very special episode about cancer prevention—with a female hormone twist. We're diving into holistic cancer prevention with one of the world's experts, Dr. Nalini Chilkov, who is a pioneer in Integrative Cancer Care, focusing on cancer prevention and immune enhancement.According to the British Journal of Cancer, one in two people will develop cancer at some point in their lives. In the United States, 1 in 2 women and 1 in 3 men will get cancer in their lifetime.1... in...2...people!When we think about longevity, living longer AND healthier is the goal. What are the science-backed ways to optimize our health and outsmart cancer? How do female hormones play a role + what to do about that? + so much moreWhat we cover:
Defining cancer: from a Traditional Western Medicine and Eastern Medicine POV
Understanding cancer growth and development - and the impact our internal and external environment and choices have on that growth
The link between sugar and cancer (it’s not what you think!)
The link between diet and preventing cancer (it’s not what you think!)
The power of herbal medicine
Female cancer prevention: and how + why estrogen matters
About Dr. Nalini Chilkov:Dr. Nalini Chilkov is a pioneer in Integrative Cancer Care, focusing on cancer prevention and immune enhancement. She founded the American Institute of Integrative Oncology Research & Education and developed the OutSmartCancer® System. Dr. Chilkov’s mission is to transform cancer care through her Institute and online courses, which train clinicians in her comprehensive, science-based, and natural cancer support methods.
She authored the bestselling book "32 Ways to Outsmart Cancer" and has over 35 years of clinical experience, integrating modern functional medicine with traditional Oriental and natural healing. Dr. Chilkov has lectured at UCLA and UC Irvine, conducted global seminars, and appeared as a cancer expert on NBC TV. Recognized as a top online influencer for breast cancer by WebMD and ShareCare.com, she offers international telemedicine consultations through her clinic in Santa Monica, California.
To connect with Dr. Nalini Chilkov: IG: drnalinichilkovFB: DrNaliniwww.integrativecanceranswers.com

May 14, 2024 • 48min
070: [FEMININE FLOW] Sara Avant Stover on: heartbreak, betrayal, "falls from grace" & transformation
Welcome back, community! I am really honored to bring on my next amazing guest: Sara Avant Stover. This week's episode is perfectly timed with her latest book which is NOW live, Handbook for the Heartbroken. Today we're talking about the messy stuff —heartache, health issues, money troubles—and how they shape us. I so deeply appreciate this powerful conversation because Sara touches on not just the pains we face but also those "second arrows" e.g. the broken dreams that follow loss, the shame that follows a fall from grace, and everything in between. These are conversations that are often not covered in our "highlight reel" focused society but these are the openhearted conversations that in my opinion, we should be having. Trigger warning: today we will be covering miscarriages, abortions, betrayal, bankruptcy and more.
What we cover:
Finding course when you’re trying not to drown
Facing shame and rejection head on and accepting that as part of the journey
Leaning into self-acceptance instead of spiritual bypass
Faith and identifying your true voice as a navigator
Rituals around finding your footing again
The initiation of grief - grief as a means of cultural initiation
+ so much more
About Sara:Sara Avant Stover (she/her) is the author of three books; a teacher and mentor of women's spirituality, empowerment, and entrepreneurship; and a Certified Internal Family Systems Practitioner. After graduating Phi Beta Kappa and Summa cum Laude from Columbia University’s all-women’s Barnard College, she had a cancer scare, moved to Thailand, and embarked on a decade-long healing and spiritual odyssey throughout Asia. Since then, she’s gone on to uplift tens of thousands of women worldwide. Sara has been featured in Yoga Journal, The Huffington Post, Newsweek, Natural Health, and on ABC, NBC, and CBS. To connect with Sara: IG: SaraAvantStoverFB: Sara Avant StoverLI: Sara Avant Stover SaraAvantStover.com

May 7, 2024 • 59min
069: [FEMININE FLOW ] Seed cycling, hormonal imbalances, postpartum care, & entrepreneurship with Yasmin & Kaya of Beeya Wellness
Today I am so excited to welcome two incredible women whom I deeply admire: Yasmin Nouri (Host of Behind Her Empire podcast and Co-founder of Beeya Wellness) and Kaya Purohit, MS (Nutritionist and Co-founder of Beeya Wellness). Not only have these two ladies been instrumental in my own journey as a co-founder, but their product has helped me find balance in my own cycle (especially navigating endometriosis).What we cover:
Hormone balancing: why nutrition is important
Seed cycling: what is it + how it works
Lifestyle tips for balanced hormones
How much sleep women actually need + the the impact of less sleep
Sleep + evening routines
Testing for hormonal balance
Hormone balance across life stages: pre-conception, postpartum
Being a team of female founders + building companies (and birthing babies!)
Navigating the Fears Behind Motherhood
+ So much more
About Yasmin & Kaya:Yasmin Nouri and Kaya Purohit are the vibrant co-founders of Beeya Wellness, where they fully vibe with the power of food as medicine!In their heart-to-heart chats with other women, they discovered a major problem that affects so many of us: hormonal imbalances. They got deep into talking about the struggles with PMS, hot flashes, breast tenderness, bloating, acne, and so many other relatable topics.Totally driven by their shared vision, they set out on a journey to find a natural, effective, affordable, and accessible solution to these super common concerns. Their own personal experiences with seed cycling lit the spark that led to creating this simple yet amazing method to support hormones and, put an end to the whole hormonal imbalance scene. To connect with Yasmin & Kaya: IG: BeeyaWellnessLI: Beeya-WellnessTikTok: BeeyaWellnessYouTube: BeeyaWellnessbeeyawellness.com

Apr 30, 2024 • 1h 5min
068: [FEMININE FLOW] Endometriosis, inflammation, treatment, & more with Katie Edmonds
Did you know that 1 in 10 women suffer from endometriosis? From cramps, and fatigue, to no symptoms at all endometriosis is a condition that affects so many women - yet is wildly under-studied. It is one of the FEW conditions out there where women are told: "There is no cure". Today's episode is about diving deep into this condition, treatment options, and about some powerful science behind the mind-body connection. My guest today: Katie Edmonds, an endo warrior, nutritional therapist, Paleo Autoimmune Protocol coach, and author of the incredible book - Heal Endo (the most comprehensive piece of text on endometriosis - out there). What we cover:
What is endometriosis (plus many misconceptions about this disease)
The inflammation x endo flare connection
The link behind endometriosis & anxiety
Can endometriosis ever go into remission? What to know + how to get there.
Tangible lifestyle, food, and movement tips for treating endometriosis
+ SO MUCH MORE
About KatieKatie is an endometriosis-focused author, educator, and Nutritional Therapist. Her best-selling books, "Heal Endo: An Anti-Inflammatory Approach to Healing From Endometriosis," and "The 4-Week Endometriosis Diet Plan," offer invaluable insights into managing the condition. Based on the North Shore of Kaua`i, she resides beside the largest mahogany forest in the United States, where she lives with her husband and two children. Katie is deeply committed to empowering women with endometriosis, channeling her passion into transformative support and education. To connect with Katie: IG: heal.endoFB: heal.endo

Apr 23, 2024 • 60min
067: [MINDFULNESS] Off the grid: breaking your phone addiction & going "light" with Joe Hollier
Hi everyone! Today I'm speaking with Joe Hollier, Co-Founder of Light -> a minimalistic, non-addictive smartphone alternative. For those of you who have known me for a while I've been on a long-time mission to become more intention with the information I'm taking in and to cultivate more focus and flow into my day. Partner that with my long-time meditation practice and over the past few years it has become obvious to me that my phone... as convenient as it is... is definitely part of a larger problem.This year I "upgraded" to a Lightphone and started to set more serious boundaries with my phone. I noticed that on retreats/vacations/weekends when I don't have a traditional smartphone on me I feel more focused, intentional, and peaceful. On days when I am on my phone a lot I feel overwhelmed, more anxious, and "rushing" non-stop. I also found it more difficult to participate in things I loved: reading, learning, and tapping into that state of "deep focus".Well, it turns out I'm not alone. According to recent research:
Checking phones has become so prevalent that more than 40 percent of consumers said they look at the devices within five minutes of waking up, according to a 2016 survey by Deloitte.
Fifty percent said they check them in the middle of the night.
“The brain starts learning how to switch rapidly from one task to another to another,” says William Klemm, senior professor of neuroscience at Texas A&M University and author of Teach Your Kids How to Learn. “It becomes a habit. But this habit conflicts with focused attentiveness.”
Y'all, IDK about you but I don't feel good feeling so distracted - I want more peace and a sense of calm groundedness in my day-to-day. Enter Light - and this conversation.
What we talk about:
Joe and Kaiwei's journey of creating a "light" phone in the era of "more is more" (more apps, more features, more addiction)
What it was like building towards a very polarizing vision: the challenge of fundraising in an era where smartphones were all the rage & VC's were looking for "hockey stick" growth
The power of community: bringing customers along the journey of building a complex, multi-year hardware tech product (How crowdfunding made all the difference)
The research behind going light + the benefits seen from case studies like schools that went 100% light phone and the benefits seen from customers
What "actually" makes smartphones addictive?
Why "screentime" often isn't enough
Joe's own journey of cultivating an "intentional" life (as an artist and multidisciplinary designer)
What Joe predicts the future of social might look like AND tech companies he's loving these days
+ so much more!About Joe:I'm a multi-disciplinary artist and entrepreneur. I studied design at the School of Visual Arts and graduated as the valedictorian. I started a design studio & skateboard company called Five on That, working as an animator, film maker, and illustrator mostly. I was also selling and exhibiting my painting and collage work. The Smithsonian commissioned a short film called "Diary". Other clients include Nike, CNN, the Lincoln Center, Debbie Millman, Office of Paul Sahre and Sagmeister & Walsh. Print Magazine recognized me as one of the top 20 visual artists under the age of 30 in 2014. I was invited to participate in Google’s inaugural incubator in 2014, which is where I began building the Light Phone with my partner Kai. In 2016 I received the A.D.C. Young Guns award. In 2020, I was named one of Forbes 30 under 30 for consumer technology products. I love my cat, walking the bridge, reading, camping, piano and the color yellow. To connect with Joe: IG: thelightphone&

Apr 16, 2024 • 25min
066: [SOLO] business update, fertility journey, & To Be Magnetic manifestations
Hi everyone! I'm hopping on for a solo episode. I got a lot of great feedback from the last one, so I wanted to share some personal updates for you all to connect more deeply with the community here AND to share what's been coming up in my life (in case it resonates and can be meaningful for you). On today's episode, I cover:
A business update since January 2024
Some of the challenges I've been running into in business & life
To Be Magnetic + some of my manifestation work
The "tests" I've been running into & how I stepped through them
This transition phase: fertility journey, transitioning into another phase of life, & more
Let me know if you like these episodes - and enjoy!

Apr 9, 2024 • 55min
065: [FEMININE FLOW] Ayurveda, Nutrition, & Yoga Nidra for Women's Health with Nimisha Gandhi
Today we're diving into female health x Ayurveda, functional nutrition, hormone balancing with food, and the incredible research behind Yoga Nidra.My guest for the podcast this week is Nimisha Gandhi, a nutritionist, researcher, educator, community-builder, and devoted mother. With a background in functional medicine nutrition, Ayurvedic counseling, and Yoga Nidra/meditation teaching, Nimisha's journey from tech founder to wellness advocate is fueled by a passion for preventative healthcare. Through her practice, Moon Cycle Nutrition, Nimisha blends functional medicine nutrition with Ayurvedic principles to craft personalized plans for reproductive and gut health. Her research-based work and insightful teachings inspire wellness seekers globally through workshops, webinars, and speaking engagements. Other topics:
Nutrition & Ayurdeva
Hormonal health from Ayurveda's perspective
The intersection of Western Medicine and Ayurveda
The research behind Yoga Nidra and it's impact on our hormones
The spiritual aspect of our cycle
The different types of Doshas
Nimisha's Bio:Nutritionist, researcher, educator, community-builder, and mother, Nimisha Gandhi is well-known for her work and life passion for preventative healthcare. Nimisha is a functional medicine nutritionist, Ayurvedic counselor, Yoga Nidra/meditation teacher, and former tech founder. She holds a B.S. in pre-med Psychobiology from UCLA and has years of additional education in her field. In Nimisha’s private practice, Moon Cycle Nutrition, she specializes in reproductive and gut health with an emphasis on the mind, body, and soul. Nimisha combines functional medicine nutrition with ancient Ayurvedic principles to help her clients find deeply personalized eating and lifestyle plans. Her clients learn to awaken their untapped healer and empower themselves about their own health journey. She also uses the innate wisdom of changing hormones and cycles of nature to help her clients flow with their body. Moon Cycle Nutrition is a conscious evolution practice that draws on deep inner inquiry, food as medicine, meditation, sleep, rituals, lab work, movement, and insight that she has picked up along the journey. Nimisha serves as a board member of several health and wellness companies and organizations, including FemTech Collective, Womco, and Conscious Kitchen. She speaks regularly at conferences, retreats, and private events. You can also find Nimisha teaching workshops, webinars, and classes in-person and virtually. Her work is research-based, intuitive, and from the soul.
To connect with Nimisha: IG: mooncyclenutritionLI: Nimisha GandhiYoni Health and Wellness Guidewww.mooncyclenutrition.com

Apr 2, 2024 • 48min
064: [FEMININE FLOW] Modern Practical Magick: Witchcraft, Healing, and Cosmic Shifts with Tenae Stewart
Today's episode is a bit different than the usual... but one I've been so excited to publish for a while. Calling all my witchy babes - we are diving into all things witchcraft, magick, breathing through stereotypes, and more. We're chatting with Tenae Stewart, cottage witch and published author of the best sellers, The Modern Witch's Guide to Magickal Self-Care" and "The Modern Witch's Guide to Natural Magick". For all my Practical Magic Fans, astrology curious, and spiritually inclined, this is for you.What we talk about:
Defining a "Witch"
Exploring the Spectrum: From Secular to Spiritual Witchcraft
Crafting a Personal Witchcraft Practice
Spiritual Overwhelm: how to navigate the unknown
Personalizing Your Practice: From Rituals to Altars
Astrological Insights for 2024: Pluto's Big Move
+ So much more
About Tenae:With a passion for infusing simplicity into the realms of magic, astrology, and self-care, Tenae is on a mission to guide others on a transformative journey. As the proud author of "The Modern Witch's Guide to Magickal Self-Care" and "The Modern Witch's Guide to Natural Magick," Tenae's work serves as a beacon, inspiring modern witches to nurture their minds, bodies, and intuition. Her mission is crystal clear: empower individuals to embrace their most magical selves each and every day 🙌🧙♀️ To connect with Tenae: IG: lupinehollowwww.witchoflupinehollow.com

Mar 26, 2024 • 48min
063: [FEMININE FLOW] Human design: find your purpose, leadership, & more with Sarah Tulin
In today's episode, we've got Sarah Tulin, a "human design introducer" who is bringing human design into the corporate world. We're merging astrology, Kabbalah, I'Ching, and Myers-Briggs with this powerful system as we dig into how to employ Human Design for finding your purpose, building your team, and reaching your full potential. If you're familiar with Human Design but want to go deeper: this episode is a must-listen for you. Sarah reveals how CEOs' leadership styles are tied to their human design types, and it's a game-changer. From historical shifts in leadership to optimizing performance for generators, manifestors, projectors, and reflectors.What we cover:
Human design from the perspective of career
The energetics of a CEO + founder
Leadership styles by human design types
Building an ideal team using Human Design
Navigating conflict in the workplace
Misconceptions about different energetic types + how they operate
Ways to optimize how and where you work for your Human Design+ so much more
About SarahOver 10 years ago, Sarah began her journey with Human Design via the Gene Keys. She's studied both modalities extensively and has had the great opportunity to introduce this work to thousands of individuals over the years.In her words, she humbly labels herself an “introducer”, recognizing that no knowledge she shares can substitute for someone's unique journey.Over the years she has worked with several companies, founders, and teams, weaving Human Design practices into the workplace. Witnessing the magic unfold when team dynamics align? Absolutely incredible! She's all about making the workplace a space where Human Design vibes thrive. To connect with Sarah: IG: sarah.tulinTikTok: humandesignatworkhttps://sarahtulin.com/