

Notice That
Jen Savage and Bridger Falkenstien
An EMDR Podcast
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Dec 12, 2025 • 1h 7min
F*ck 'em: Authenticity, Play, and Vulnerability as a Therapist
Join EMDR therapist and comedy content creator Jennifer Ann, known for her engaging social media presence, as she dives into the interplay of humor and therapy. Jennifer shares how a viral reel launched her online journey and discusses the importance of authenticity in her practice. The conversation explores navigating negativity in the digital space with a 'fuck 'em' mindset, while also highlighting the significance of playfulness in trauma work and the therapeutic connection. Discover the lighter side of healing as laughter meets depth!

Dec 5, 2025 • 59min
Tagging Trauma in the Nervous System: EMDR, Somatics, and Polyvagal Wisdom with Dr. Arielle Schwartz
In this episode of Notice That: An EMDR Podcast, Jen and Bridger sit down with Dr. Arielle Schwartz—somatic psychologist, EMDR therapist, and author of EMDR Therapy and Somatic Psychology—to explore what really happens when EMDR and body-based work are woven together in the therapy room.Together, they dive into:How Arielle’s early training in somatic psychology shaped the way she learned and practices EMDRWhy the body scan and somatic check-ins are not just “boxes to tick,” but core guides for pacing, target selection, and resolutionPolyvagal theory’s view of how trauma gets “tagged” in the nervous system—both in external cues and internal sensationsWhat to do when clients say, “I don’t feel anything in my body” and how even that response is meaningful dataThe myth that SUDs “should always go down,” especially with dissociative and complex trauma presentationsArielle and Barb Maiberger’s “golden nugget practice” and why we shouldn’t wait for a SUD = 0 to install and future-template meaningful shiftsTherapist embodiment: using our own nervous system as an instrument for attunement, pacing, and repairArielle also shares about her Somatic EMDR trainings through BodyLab, her therapist retreats in Sedona and Costa Rica, and her Beyond Trauma nervous system care retreats, including an immersive experience in South Africa that combines yoga, nervous system education, and observing animals in the wild.You’ll hear practical language, case examples, and flexible ways to honor EMDR’s structure while staying deeply relational, embodied, and responsive to the nervous system in front of you.Learn more about Dr. Arielle Schwartz:Website (events, retreats, trainings): resilienceinformedtherapy.comWebsite (blog, yoga, additional resources): drarielleschwartz.comCheck out her card deck that integrates nature photography with quotes from The Post-Traumatic Growth Guidebook—a powerful tool for helping clients locate themselves in their healing process and set intentions for EMDR and somatic work.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Dec 2, 2025 • 55min
Neurofeedback + EMDR: A Conversation with Leigh Povia
Leigh Povia, a licensed clinical social worker and neurofeedback clinician, shares her expertise on trauma therapy. She demystifies neurofeedback, explaining how it mirrors brain states and aids in self-regulation. Leigh discusses its role in enhancing EMDR therapy when clients feel stuck. She shares a compelling case of a child finding calm through neurofeedback, while emphasizing the importance of maintaining therapeutic relationships. With practical insights on integrating neurofeedback into practice, her message is both enlightening and relatable for clinicians.

Nov 20, 2025 • 44min
The Future of EMDR Tech: Inside WeMind with Founder Sander Kamphuis
Sander Kamphuis, founder of WeMind, leads a digital revolution in EMDR therapy with innovative tools for bilateral stimulation and working memory taxation. He discusses the evolution of WeMind, emphasizing the dynamic adjustment of memory loads during sessions. Sander reveals insights on global EMDR practices and the cultural differences he's encountered. The conversation also highlights how technology can enhance therapeutic relationships and facilitate clinician confidence, all while maintaining the core elements of EMDR.

Nov 4, 2025 • 1h 14min
Bonus Episode! Conference Recap… A Bit Late
Jen and Bridger finally sit down to share stories and reflections from the 2024 EMDRIA Conference — a few weeks (or months?) later than planned. From early-morning flights and beachside content shoots to laughter-filled dinners and deep professional reflections, this episode captures the whirlwind of being presenters, exhibitors, and community builders all at once.They talk candidly about what it was like to present Enactment-Focused EMDR for the first time, the energy of meeting listeners face-to-face, and their behind-the-scenes take on the polarizing buzz around EMDR 2.0. It’s part travelogue, part professional reflection, and all the reasons this work matters.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Oct 23, 2025 • 1h 5min
IFS-Informed EMDR: Parts, Art, and the Organic Map of Healing
In this insightful discussion, David Polidi, a Massachusetts-based therapist and co-owner of Empowered Through Compassion, Bruce Hersey from the Syzygy Institute, and art therapist Peggy Kolodny delve into the fusion of IFS with EMDR. They explore how EMDR's eight phases can be enhanced through IFS and artistic methods. Bruce discusses viewing trauma targets as parts, while Peggy highlights the power of art in accessing nonverbal memories. Together, they advocate for a compassionate, creative approach to trauma therapy, promising to inspire a new wave of integration.

Sep 26, 2025 • 55min
Bonus Episode: The Mosaic Enneagram
Explore the innovative concept of the Mosaic Enneagram, which redefines personality through a blend of agency, bonding, and certainty. The hosts unpack the limitations of single-type identity and highlight the value of a nuanced, triadic self-portrait. Personal stories reveal journeys of mistyping and the quest for authenticity. Can different aspects of ourselves coexist harmoniously? Dive into tools and insights that encourage honest self-narratives and relational exploration, enhancing both personal and professional growth.

Sep 25, 2025 • 1h 1min
EMDR After Basic Training: A Conversation with Carol Miles
Carol Miles, LCSW-BACS, is an EMDR trainer and the leader of the South Louisiana EMDR Regional Network. She dives into the challenges new EMDR clinicians face transitioning from training to practice. Key takeaways include barriers like confidence gaps and organizational issues. Carol emphasizes the importance of mentorship and community support to bridge this gap. She also discusses innovative methods using WeMind avatars for practical skill development and the shift towards cultural humility in therapy, aiming for effective and inclusive practice.

Sep 16, 2025 • 44min
EMDR 2.0: A Conversation with Suzy Matthijssen & Ad de Jongh
In this engaging conversation, Suzy Matthijssen, a clinical psychologist and trauma treatment innovator, and Ad de Jongh, a seasoned therapist and EMDR pioneer, delve into the evolution of EMDR 2.0. They discuss the origins of intensive trauma treatment, highlighting the emergence of four-session-a-day protocols. The duo explains the science behind their approach, focusing on the pillars of activation, taxation, and motivation. They also share insights on the surprising effectiveness of remote therapy, and how their methods can better address complicated trauma cases.

Aug 28, 2025 • 42min
Why So Many Protocols?: EMDR Modifications and Their Common Themes
Dive into the fascinating world of EMDR protocols and discover why there are so many variations. The discussion breaks down the essential themes connecting these methods, like the three-pronged approach and dual attention. Learn when to stick to a standard framework and when to unleash your clinical creativity. The hosts highlight the power of case conceptualization over simply memorizing techniques, making it easier to tailor EMDR to each client’s unique needs. Plus, enjoy light-hearted reflections on creative play in therapy!


