The LeanScaper Podcast

Discover where the landscaping industry is heading next. In this panel discussion recorded live at our Dallas event, six industry leaders share practical insight into the forces reshaping the future of landscape businesses: technology, private equity, M&A, scaling, leadership, and long-term value creation. Whether you’re building toward an exit, planning your next growth phase, or trying to future-proof your company, this conversation offers a clear look at what’s coming and how to prepare. Expect to Learn: • How tech adoption directly drives higher multiples • What private equity firms actually look for in landscape companies • Why independent operators may be stronger than ever • The systems and metrics that increase enterprise value • What happens after the deal closes • The leadership traits needed for the next decade In this episode: 00:00 – Intro 01:30 – Why tech is reshaping service businesses 08:45 – How private equity views landscaping today 15:20 – Modern M&A strategies and valuation drivers 23:10 – Founder journeys: scaling, timing, and identity 33:55 – Building a business buyers compete to own 41:20 – Protecting culture and people through growth 49:15 – Preparing for the next decade of service entrepreneurship 58:40 – Leadership principles that won’t change 1:05:00 – The biggest risks (and opportunities) ahead Featuring: Nick Bartolo, Essential Partners Jeff Domenick, KeyServ Company Scott Lesak, Kasel Rocks Jonathan Pototschnik Austyn Roth, Lucky Landscaping LLC Mark Sedgley, Granum 

If you’re a landscaper trying to grow your business, content isn’t about going viral—it’s about becoming the obvious choice in your market. In this episode, Benji sits down with Brian Fullerton to break down what actually matters when it comes to content, social media, and long-term brand trust in local service businesses. This is not an episode about algorithms or posting hacks. It’s about credibility, consistency, and calm leadership—and why most contractors misunderstand content entirely. Brian shares what he’s learned after nearly a decade of building a community, answering thousands of DMs, and growing a blue-collar business in public. If you’ve ever felt invisible, unsure where to start, or worried about looking stupid online, this conversation will reset how you think about content. You’ll learn: • Why content is now part of your credibility infrastructure • How the best local landscapers become the name clients think of first • Why “going viral” is the wrong goal for service businesses • How to turn real job sites into authentic content—without forcing it • What not to post if you care about trust and professionalism • How to stop worrying about what people think and just start 00:00 Why content now matters more than ever for landscapers 03:10 How customers actually decide who to hire today 06:15 Company A vs Company B: the 3-year content gap 09:45 Why content is a long-term investment, not a test 11:00 Should landscapers start with YouTube, Instagram, or something else? 18:30 The real goal of content: building a community, not followers 24:00 Why chasing virality hurts local service businesses 27:40 Turning daily job sites into real, compelling content 33:45 What not to post if you want trust and professionalism 35:10 Benji’s ICP framework: hires, customers, and partners 40:30 Showing wins and mistakes without losing credibility 46:20 Fear, confidence, and the 18–45–65 rule 49:00 Final mindset shift: nobody is paying attention—and that’s freeing 

Why do so many business owners achieve everything they set out to build… yet still feel a quiet emptiness underneath it all? In this conversation, Benji sits down with Philip McKernan to explore why success often feels misaligned, why old wounds silently shape our ambition, and what it takes to shift from proving yourself to actually living in alignment. This episode is a grounded, honest look at the emotional and psychological patterns entrepreneurs rarely talk about—but deeply feel. In this episode: • Why success doesn’t guarantee fulfillment • How trauma shapes ambition and leadership • The “I’ll show you” fuel that eventually burns out • The three mountains and the cost of staying on the wrong one • How to start reconnecting with work that feels true  Timestamps 00:00 Opening and setup 01:26 Why emotional alignment matters more than achievement 04:16 How trauma quietly drives many entrepreneurs 07:38 The danger of building a life to prove someone wrong 11:14 Understanding ego in a healthier, more honest way 14:26 The myth of “escape velocity” and waiting to feel free 18:53 What it takes to step into the next mountain 27:38 Simple first steps to reconnect with purpose

In this episode of the LeanScaper Podcast, Benji sits down with Justin White, CEO of K&D Landscaping, to break down what actually drives revenue growth in a landscape business. Justin shares his journey from being thrust into the CEO role at 25 years old to scaling K&D from ~$1.5M to over $20M in annual revenue. Together, they unpack the boring but powerful principles that create predictable growth—things like standardized sales processes, labor hour management, focusing on what you’re already great at, and spending more time with your A-players. If you’re tired of chasing shiny objects and want to build a real revenue engine that scales, this conversation is for you.  00:00 – Intro & welcome 01:20 – Justin’s family business story & sudden move into the CEO role 04:00 – Learning leadership the hard way at 25 07:00 – Casting a big vision before you believe it 10:20 – Unhealthy beliefs landscapers have about revenue growth 13:30 – The “boring” systems that actually scale revenue 18:45 – Why standardized sales processes reduce stress 22:30 – Doing more of what your company is already great at 26:45 – Labor hour management as the master KPI 31:00 – How to improve estimated vs. actual labor hours 36:00 – Spending more time with A-players 40:00 – Final rapid-fire insights & closing thoughts

What if the biggest growth driver for your landscaping business isn’t ads, equipment, or even skill—but partnerships? In this episode of The LeanScaper Podcast, Kevin Scott reveals how 90% of revenue comes from partnerships with architects, builders, vendors, realtors, municipalities, and even customers. Expect to learn: -Why you should never email proposals again -How nagging a single architect turned into $90M of work -Why a deep bench of local partners and friends can you help you weather a challenging market Timestamps: 0:00 – Intro & Studio Bloopers 😂 1:58 – Why partnerships drive 90% of revenue 3:19 – What young landscapers get wrong 8:55 – The partnership funnel (charcuterie boards & donuts 🍩) 11:22 – Why partnerships matter more than ever in today’s economy 13:46 – Finish strong or blow the whole project 16:25 – Stop emailing proposals—always present them live 24:35 – The $90M lesson: persistence pays off 39:43 – Community as the glue of business longevity 44:19 – Kevin’s new role as LeanScaper advisor & final advice 

Join Meaghan Likes, a financial educator and entrepreneur who empowers home-service companies to achieve double-digit profits, as she unpacks the power of effective budgeting. She reveals why most landscapers shy away from budgets and how to view them as a tool for designing your ideal business. Meaghan stresses the importance of analyzing last year’s P&L, understanding gross profit, and identifying your core financial numbers for success. Get ready to turn your budgeting process into a strategic, money-saving adventure!

The old marketing funnel is broken (or at the very least has some holes in it). In this episode of The LeanScaper Podcast, Benji sits down with Marc Levesque of Webrunner Media to break down why contractors keep wasting money on leads, how to actually generate AND capture demand, and the exact steps to fix your “leaky funnel” before you pour more money into ads.Timestamps:0:00 – Why the old marketing funnel is broken5:05 – Lead magnets, nurturing, and why it doesn’t work anymore9:50 – The #1 mistake contractors make in marketing14:18 – Why you need to think like a media company17:43 – Stop wasting your content (do this instead)23:20 – Paying for eyeballs works (here’s why)27:26 – How to audit your own company38:41 – The “10K contractor who wants $100K jobs” story42:52 – Why most campaigns fail (leaky buckets)49:51 – The two biggest wastes in contractor marketing

In this episode, Benji sits down with serial entrepreneur and podcaster Dwayne Kerrigan, who has owned 35+ businesses across 14 industries. From road building to landscaping to restaurants, Dwayne shares the 5 fundamental business skill sets that span industries.You’ll hear: Why vision is a muscle anyone can build The 20-minute “think time” writing exercise that forces breakthroughs The shocking truth about culture: you get what you tolerate Why sales scripts are the ultimate freedom—not a crutch⏰ Timestamps00:00 – Intro: 35+ businesses before 4006:59 – The power of singular focus vs. juggling businesses12:51 – Vision is a muscle, not just a gift16:23 – The power of better questions22:40 – The brutal 20-minute think-time exercise27:29 – Culture = you get what you tolerate41:12 – Sales is table stakes—find the pain point57:57 – Becoming data-driven: P&Ls and finance days01:01:51 – Advice to 21-year-old me

In this engaging discussion, Mike Lysecki, an operator and efficiency expert at LeanScaper, reveals the truth behind profitability in landscaping and contracting. He explains why traditional profit metrics can mislead owners and introduces throughput as the key to understanding business efficiency. Discover the importance of the labor efficiency ratio and how different services like mowing and hardscaping compare in terms of profitability. Mike also outlines practical steps to improve throughput and boost overall productivity, urging a shift in how we measure success.

In this episode, Benji Carlson sits down with Brian Kaskavalciyan of The Wealthy Contractor to uncover why so many landscapers and contractors struggle with scarcity thinking—and what it really takes to build wealth in business. Brian shares powerful mindset shifts, personal stories, and practical tools that help entrepreneurs overcome fear, reprogram limiting beliefs, and finally give themselves permission to win. Expect to learn:1. Why fear is the #1 reason contractors undercharge. 2. How most business owners accidentally have more faith in failure than success. 3. Why every contractor who delivers quality work deserves to be profitable (and wealthy). If you’re ready to stop playing small and start creating abundance in your business, this is a must-watch. ⏱ Timestamps:00:36 – The fear-driven pricing trap 05:18 – Why competition is an illusion 06:43 – How to create opportunities out of thin air 09:29 – Mindset vs. skillset (why 90% is mindset) 15:08 – Stop asking “how” and ask this instead 22:37 – Why most people have faith in failure 25:45 – Reprogramming your subconscious stories 30:06 – Why mindset is like going to the gym 42:36 – Money only amplifies who you are 46:47 – How to stop moving the goalposts 53:06 – The truth: You deserve to make a profit 👉 Subscribe for more insights on building wealth and freedom in your landscaping business. 👉 Learn more at thewealthycontractor.com