Urgent Futures with Jesse Damiani

Welcome to the Urgent Futures podcast, the show that finds signal in the noise. Each week, I sit down with leading thinkers whose research, concepts, and questions clarify the chaos, from culture to the cosmos.Support the show by checking out: ZBiotics (Decrease impact of hangovers. Code: JESSEDAMIANI for 10% off), MUD\WTR (43% off starter kits), 1Password (simplify your life and increase digital safety), Mission Farms CBD (healthy, effective CBD for relief, sleep, and wellbeing—25% off with email), NordVPN (the simplest way to protect yourself online, 72% off 2-year plans).My guest this week is Nina Jankowicz.Nina Jankowicz, the co-founder and CEO of The American Sunlight Project, is an internationally-recognized expert on disinformation and democratization, one of TIME magazine’s 100 Most Influential People in AI, and the author of two books: How to Lose the Information War (2020), which The New Yorker called “a persuasive new book on disinformation as a geopolitical strategy,” and How to Be A Woman Online (2022), an examination of online abuse and disinformation and tips for fighting back, which Publishers Weekly named “essential.” Jankowicz has advised governments, international organizations, and tech companies, and testified before the US Congress, UK Parliament, and European Parliament. In 2022, Jankowicz was appointed to lead the Disinformation Governance Board, an intra-agency best practices and coordination entity at the Department of Homeland Security; she resigned the position after a sustained disinformation campaign caused the Biden Administration to abandon the project. From 2017-2022, Jankowicz has held fellowships at the Wilson Center, where she led accessible, actionable research about the effects of disinformation on women and freedom of expression around the world. She advised the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry on strategic communications under the auspices of a Fulbright-Clinton Public Policy Fellowship in 2016-17. Early in her career, she managed democracy assistance programs to Russia and Belarus at the National Democratic Institute.Nina has lived a fascinating life, which is not to say that it’s always been easy. In many ways she has lived out the very things that she’s spent her career researching and working to address.I first encountered Nina’s work in How to Lose the Information War, which really clarified my understanding of how Russian influence operations work. This was in 2020, when concern about disinformation and its impacts had reached all-time highs, especially with regard to the rise of conspiracy theories like QAnon, antivax communities, and more. How to Lose the Information War was a book that helped me see how these seemingly convoluted outcomes were grounded in basic, repeatable strategies (not just by Russians per se, but by anyone seeking to manipulate the information sphere at scale).In recognition of her work and scholarship, Nina was tapped to lead the Disinformation Governance Board at the Department of Homeland Security in 2022. But her tenure was short-lived—in no small part because of the very influence operations and toxified media environment that she had been working to illuminate and address. We talk about this more in-depth in the episode.Already in 2022 talk of disinformation and misinformation didn’t have the fangs that it had during the Trump years. In some ways that speaks to half of the American populace feeling like they could ramp down from the state of hypervigilance they’d maintained during the preceding years. But just because it wasn’t as hot of a topic of conversation anymore didn’t mean that bad actors weren’t still endeavoring to interfere with the information environment. If anything, the lack of a magnifying glass probably made for ideal conditions to build out new operations and social communities.Which is why Nina’s latest effort, The American Sunlight Project feels like such an important organization at this moment. Yes, there are complicated questions about what means we use to determine if something is true, but at bare minimum we need an information space predicated on good-faith attempts to reach consensus, even if through debate. To do that, we need to understand the media environment we’re in and the strategies we need to develop to preserve our ability to communicate. And Nina is one of the key figures leading us in that direction.CREDITS: This podcast is edited and produced by Adam Labrie and me, Jesse Damiani. Adam Labrie also directed, shot, and edited the video version of the podcast, which is available on YouTube. The podcast is presented by Reality Studies. If you appreciate the work I’m doing, please subscribe and share it with someone you think would enjoy it.Find video episodes of Urgent Futures at: youtube.com/@UrgentFutures. Get full access to Reality Studies at www.realitystudies.co/subscribe

Michael Mezzatesta, an economist known for making complex economic concepts accessible, delves into the intricacies of economic growth and its relationship with climate change. He critiques traditional metrics like GDP, advocating for regenerative economics focused on well-being. The discussion touches on the ethical implications of resource extraction and the importance of diverse energy sources. Mezzatesta also shares his transition to digital platforms for outreach, emphasizing the need for inclusive dialogue in social change and the role of radical youth movements in climate activism.

Welcome to the Urgent Futures podcast, the show that finds signal in the noise. Each week, I sit down with leading thinkers whose research, concepts, and questions clarify the chaos, from culture to the cosmos.Support the show by checking out: ZBiotics (Decrease impact of hangovers. Code: JESSEDAMIANI for 10% off), MUD\WTR (43% off starter kits), 1Password (simplify your life and increase digital safety), Mission Farms CBD (healthy, effective CBD for relief, sleep, and wellbeing—25% off with email), NordVPN (the simplest way to protect yourself online, 72% off 2-year plans).My guest this week is porn historian Noelle Perdue.Porn. I’ve noticed it referenced in the news and on social media a lot more lately because many are concerned that it’s having harmful addictive effects on us—especially on adolescents and young men. While I do think it’s important to take these concerns seriously, I think sometimes these arguments are not being made in good faith, and when they are, they’re directed at symptoms, not underlying causes.What I’m getting at is this. What if porn is not the problem, but Western society’s post-Puritanical relationship to it? (or not so post puritanical) And what are the byproducts of a culture that not only demonizes pornography, but implicitly advocates for repressing desire, and wraps up these fears into obscenity law that harms queer, trans, nonbinary folks, and pretty much anyone else who doesn’t fit neatly within the bounds of heternormativity?Spoiler alert: it’s not good!This is why it felt so important to invite Noelle onto Urgent Futures. She is someone who approaches this subject with a high degree of rigor, but also an artist’s touch, translating complex ideas in accessible and sometimes even comedic ways. In the episode you’ll hear how I discovered her work through an experimental AI art project she posted about on TikTok in 2021. I even see this approach at work in her more recent project, Candy Lore, a venue for serious reviews of candy. Even though it’s not about porn at all, it gives a sense of how she’s able to take a subject that’s often dismissed as frivolous, despite being a major part of our culture, and treat it with care without losing its essential play and silliness.Porn, sex, eroticism, and intimacy are incredibly complex, interrelated systems. Trying to address them with oversimplified mechanistic approaches represents a misunderstanding of their complexity. We need to be able to talk about these subjects openly, and create a culture and political backdrop in which it doesn’t imperil folks to talk about it honestly. It seems obvious to me that working in that direction would do more to curb the harmful effects currently being attributed to porn and the porn industry than attacking it. But if you’re unconvinced, I have one of the world’s leading experts on the subject to explain it better than I ever could.BIO:Noelle Perdue is a writer, producer, and Internet porn historian with nearly ten years of experience working platform-side for multiple mainstream and independent adult companies. Having written everything from Food Network porn parodies to legally binding terms and conditions, much of her current work explores obscenity law and how pornography’s history can influence our digital and political futures. Noelle’s writing work has been published on Wired, Washington Post, Pornhub, Slate, Brazzers, Input, etc, she’s also been featured as an industry expert on multiple programs including the BBC, CBC, The Guardian, Rolling Stone, and on Netflix's 2023 documentary Money Shot.If you’re loving the Urgent Futures podcast…Please subscribe + leave a review on your preferred podcast platform! Or recommend it to a friend who might like it. All of it help the podcast grow.Guests on Urgent Futures are experts across art, science, media, technology, AI, philosophy, economics, mathematics, anthropology, journalism, and more. We live in complex times; these are the voices who will help you orient to emerging futures.Find video episodes of Urgent Futures at: youtube.com/@UrgentFutures.CREDITS: This podcast is edited and produced by Adam Labrie and me, Jesse Damiani. Adam Labrie also directed, shot, and edited the video version of the podcast, which is available on YouTube. The podcast is presented by Reality Studies. If you appreciate the work I’m doing, please subscribe and share it with someone you think would enjoy it. Get full access to Reality Studies at www.realitystudies.co/subscribe

William E. Rees, an expert in ecological economics and a champion for sustainable development, discusses the perilous state of ecological overshoot. He stresses that humanity is consuming resources at a rate far beyond Earth's regenerative capacity, necessitating a shift from infinite growth ideologies. Rees critiques neoliberal policies and highlights the critical need for systemic changes to address population growth and promote ecological solutions. He emphasizes the importance of informed discourse amid rising skepticism about expertise in climate science.

My guest this week is Günseli Yalcinkaya. An expert in youth and internet culture, London-based writer, researcher and critic Günseli Yalcinkaya is the features editor at Dazed Magazine and the host of Logged On, a podcast series that puts online trends under the microscope. She's written extensively about AI, VR and psychedelia, and as an artist, studies the relationship between ecology, magic and machine learning.What’s an AI cryptid? What is reality shifting? How are dolls and the idea of cuteness evolving online, and what does this mean for the future of intimacy? What’s the next phase of conspiritualism? How are tropes and memes changing—and how are those changes shifting how we communicate with each other? If these questions appeal to you—or sound like they might once you understand what they’re referring to—you need to be paying attention to Günseli’s writing, editorial, and arts practice.Please support this podcast by checking out:- ZBiotics: https://zbiotics.com/?sca_ref=4926056.YlP8s92iYP (click the link or use code: JESSEDAMIANI for 10% off)- MUD\WTR: https://mudwtr.pxf.io/Urgent (click the link to reveal 43% off starter packs with code)- Mission Farms CBD: https://mission-farms-cbd.sjv.io/Urgent (25% off with email signup via link)- NordVPN: https://nordvpn.com/special/?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_term=&utm_content&utm_campaign=off15&utm_source=aff97058. (Get up to 69% off 2-year plans + a Saily eSIM data gift with that link) - 1Password: https://1password.partnerlinks.io/UrgentFutures (free trial at that link)In the simplest terms, Günseli creates context for latent trends, stuff floating around in the zeitgeist that’s barely understood, or might not even have a name yet. And her interest in the weird, the occult, and psychedelia adds a surprising and distinct angle.Forecasting any single trend or cultural phenomenon is difficult enough, but swimming in the rapids of digital culture and managing to return with meaningful syntheses is really special. This dot-connecting helps us all make sense of the accelerating rush of trends, memes, ideas, and emergent social phenomena. Understanding the edges of digital culture as it exists now—especially the weird stuff—helps us orient to coming shapes of reality. I’ve learned so much from her work online, so I invited her on Urgent Futures to dig into the questions and topics I mentioned earlier, as well as other key areas of research she’s pursuing in her arts practice. The result is a wide-ranging conversation that has a lot to teach us about internet culture and beyond. So please enjoy this conversation with Günseli Yalcinkaya.CREDITS: This podcast is edited and produced by Adam Labrie and me, Jesse Damiani. Adam Labrie also directed, shot, and edited the video version of the podcast, which is available on YouTube. The podcast is presented by Reality Studies. If you appreciate the work I’m doing, please subscribe and share it with someone you think would enjoy it.Find more episodes of Urgent Futures at: youtube.com/@UrgentFutures. Get full access to Reality Studies at www.realitystudies.co/subscribe

My guest this week is data journalist & professor Meredith Broussard.The public discourse around AI is noisy. Depending on where you turn, it’s either about to save the world or destroy the world, grant you magical powers or take your job and leave you penniless. But AI is a very real thing happening in and to society. Rarely is the hype-doom binary helpful for understanding how it is and will be woven into our lives from a practical perspective—as well as the social, cultural, political, and economic issues it surfaces or amplifies.So I was thrilled to chat with Meredith, who has been a guiding light in understanding what AI actually is here and now, as well as how to approach the technology ethically. She published Artificial Unintelligence in 2018—which in the dog years of tech bubbles is several lifetimes ago. In it, she proposed the notion of (and makes the case against) technochauvinism, the belief that technology is always the best or only solution to social problems. Technochauvinism is a powerful lens to understand the mistakes people make in developing AI, as well as in the narratives put forward by AI developers. It’s also helpful for understanding how race, gender, and ability bias in technology is perpetuated through AI—which is the focus of her most recent book, More Than a Glitch. These forms of systemic injustice and oppression that are amplified by algorithmic tools are not abstract, they have real world consequences for real people. The book is an absolute must-read—actually just got a new paperback release a few months ago, so make sure you go grab a copy.Across both of these books, and the rest of her scholarly and public output, Meredith has an incredible gift for making complex technical topics related to AI and computing accessible without dumbing things down. However you feel about AI—and I know there are many mixed opinions—it’s clearly going to be part of our lives for the foreseeable future. As a non-technical person myself, I believe it’s vital to develop basic literacies and informed positions on AI, so that we’re able to meaningfully participate in advocating for prosocial uses and sensible regulations. And we get to these positions by learning from experts like Meredith Broussard.Bio: Meredith Broussard is an associate professor at the Arthur L. Carter Journalism Institute of New York University and the research director at the NYU Alliance for Public Interest Technology. She is the author of the book, More Than a Glitch: Confronting Race, Gender, and Ability Bias in Tech (MIT Press, 2023), as well as the award-winning 2018 book Artificial Unintelligence: How Computers Misunderstand the World. Her research focuses on artificial intelligence in investigative reporting, with particular interests in AI ethics and using data analysis for social good. She appears in the Emmy-nominated documentary “Coded Bias,” now streaming on Netflix. Her work has been supported by the Rockefeller Foundation, the Institute of Museum & Library Services, and the Tow Center at Columbia Journalism School. A former features editor at the Philadelphia Inquirer, she has also worked as a software developer at AT&T Bell Labs and the MIT Media Lab. Her features and essays have appeared in The New York Times, The Atlantic, Slate, Vox, and other outlets.📚 Grab your copy of More Than a Glitch here and Artificial Unintelligence here.If you’re loving the Urgent Futures podcast…Please subscribe + leave a review on your preferred podcast platform! Or recommend it to a friend who might like it. All of it help the podcast grow. Guests on Urgent Futures are experts across art, science, media, technology, AI, philosophy, economics, mathematics, anthropology, journalism, and more. We live in complex times; these are the voices who will help you orient to emerging futures.🎧 Audio versions of the podcast can be found Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts. If you like what you hear, please subscribe!Support Reality Studies:NOTE: Thank you for supporting my work by purchasing these products through the links provided. I will only ever share products I actually believe in.Health & Wellness:ZBiotics: Right now, get 10% off ZBiotics. Just head over to zbiotics.com and use code JESSEDAMIANI. If you have an evening with drinking and a morning you need to feel fresh, I strongly recommend these.Genetically engineered by a team of PhD microbiologists, ZBiotics is a probiotic drink that breaks down the byproduct of alcohol responsible for rough mornings after drinking (acetaldehyde).MUD\WTR: Right now, get 43% off starter packs using this link and the code SUMMER. 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Margaret Wertheim, a science writer and artist passionate about science and culture, discusses the intricate links between art and science. She shares her groundbreaking Crochet Coral Reef project, emphasizing its role in environmental activism. The conversation explores dimensions in physics and the multiverse, along with AI’s influence on art. Wertheim critiques modern physics' limitations and advocates for integrating social sciences to deepen our understanding, all while celebrating the imaginative beauty of mathematics and community collaboration.

My guest this week is Landon Ross.Landon Ross is a Los Angeles artist working primarily in painting, sculpture, video, and installation. Ross’s work explores the ontology of mathematics, consciousness, the self, and seeks to explore origin-stories of a distinct epistemological stance: those derived from nature. The artist’s once-central role in channeling the human inclination for the transcendent or the sublime is one that Ross seeks to continue from within the framework of naturalism.As you can tell from his bio, Landon isn’t your “typical” artist! I met him through my work as a curator. Earlier this year I was fortunate to launch SMALL V01CE, an exhibition I curated for Honor Fraser Gallery, which examined the intersection of artificial intelligence and instinct, intuition, and feelings.As I was refining that concept last year with Honor, and beginning to have conversations with artists, Honor connected me with Landon. Our studio visit was jam-packed full of ideas, not just about art but politics, media, philosophy, math, cosmology, evolution, the list goes on.As I knew he would, Landon did create incredible work for the show, which we not only talk about in the episode, but which you can see for yourself in the show’s exhibition trailer on YouTube (hint, hint). But more importantly Landon has remained a friend and someone I’m always excited to dive into conversation with.In a moment when it feels like many people who hold strong opinions are just ragebaiting or dunking online, Landon’s strong positions are deeply researched and deeply felt. I admire this quality in him, even—perhaps especially—in the moments where our perspectives diverge. In a highly polarized environment, it’s hard to go against what is perceived to be the party orthodoxy—in the U.S., that’s team red and team blue, and the various subfactions. A certain set of ideas is meant to “belong” to one group vs the other, or the group is meant to only discuss particular aspects of issues and not mention others.Of course, there are bad faith takes here, and I don’t want to discount those. But what happens when your beliefs don’t fall neatly into those camps? Sometimes that’s the case with Landon—such as his opinions about free speech and why it’s vital for democracy, or the notion that beauty has an objective quality to it. The fact that he’s resolute enough to continue to voice them makes his voice a special one to hear from, especially in such a complex moment. So much more to say, but I’ll let you hear it from him.If you’re loving the Urgent Futures podcast…Please subscribe + leave a review on your preferred podcast platform! Both things help the podcast grow. Guests on Urgent Futures are experts across art, science, media, technology, AI, philosophy, economics, mathematics, anthropology, journalism, and more. We live in complex times; these are the voices who will help you orient to emerging futures.Support Reality Studies:NOTE: Thank you for supporting my work by purchasing these products through the links provided. I will only ever share products I actually believe in.MUD\WTR: Right now, get 43% off starter packs using this link and the code SUMMER. There’s four different blends to choose from, but my current favorite is :rest. “This is our protest to hustle culture,” they say, and that resonates with me. Not only does it actually help me ramp down to sleep, but since I froth a little milk and make a latte with it, I get the warm cozy feeling of morning coffee at night. (For the evening tea drinkers out there: I’m not saying it’s better, just different!)NordVPN: Right now, get up to 69% off 2-year plans + a Saily eSIM data gift through this link. 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Genetically engineered by a team of PhD microbiologists, ZBiotics is a probiotic drink that breaks down the byproduct of alcohol responsible for rough mornings after drinking (acetaldehyde).Mission Farms CBD: Mission Farms CBD crafts full-spectrum CBD products for specific conditions like sleep, stress, and discomfort, using a combination of CBD and terpenes found in essential oils. I swear by this stuff: I take one of their Marionberry Lemon gummies to end each day. There’s a lot of junk CBD on the market. All of Mission Farms’s CBD comes from a small farm in Bend, Oregon. They farm the hemp organically, tend every plant by hand, and test for purity four times: the soil, the hemp, the hemp-extract, and the final products. This CBD is designed for wellness and it shows. Go to this link and sign up for emails to get 25% off your first order.CREDITS: This podcast is edited and produced by Adam Labrie and me, Jesse Damiani. Adam Labrie also directed, shot, and edited the video version of the podcast, which is available on YouTube. The podcast is presented by Reality Studies. If you appreciate the work I’m doing, please subscribe and share it with someone you think would enjoy it.Find more episodes of Urgent Futures at: youtube.com/@UrgentFutures. Past conversations include Taylor Lorenz, Lia Halloran & Kip Thorne, Cherie Hu, Lisa Messeri, Legacy Russell, and more. Get full access to Reality Studies at www.realitystudies.co/subscribe

My guest this week is Autumn Breon.Autumn Breon is a multidisciplinary artist who investigates the visual vocabulary of liberation through a queer Black feminist lens. Using performance, sculpture, and public installation, Breon invites audiences to examine intersectional identities and Diasporic memory. Breon imagines her work as immersive invitations for the public to join in the reimagining and creation of systems that make current oppressive systems obsolete. Breon has created commissions for Target, Art Production Fund, Frieze Art Fair, and the ACLU of Southern California. Breon’s performance history includes Hauser & Wirth, the Walt Disney Concert Hall, and the Water Mill Center. She is an alumna of Stanford University where she studied Aeronautics & Astronautics and researched aeronautical astrobiology applications. Breon is a recipient of the Crenshaw Dairy Mart Fellowship for Abolition & the Advancement of the Creative Economy and the Race Forward Fellowship for Housing, Land, and Justice.Urgent Futures is no stranger to polymaths—folks who have idiosyncratic, hybrid expertise across domains—and Autumn definitely lives up to the term, from aeronautical astrobiology to arts and activism. This more recent expression of her practice encompasses many different forms, as you’ll see in this conversation. But what I so appreciate about her work is her commitment to equity, and using speculative futures, art, design, and performance to invite new imaginings for what contemporary reality could be. In some aspects this is super conceptual, such as in her use of Planet Esoterica as a storyworld from which she draws powerful metaphors, aesthetics, figures, and other artistic ideas. But in other aspects this imagining is rooted directly in the present, such as her groundbreaking Care Machine “Caravan,” through which she partnered with Plan C to provide free access to abortion pills for folks in different parts of the United States in the wake of the overturning of Roe v Wade.Her focus on radical self-care feels like critical wisdom: it’s easy in the face of all the noise to throw ourselves into our work, whether that’s the grind of jobs and side hustles or activist causes. Either way, beginning from a place of self-care enables us in turn to genuinely care for others in our community—whatever form that community might take. It’s so simple and yet, speaking for myself, something that I forget so often. If you’re like me in that regard, this is definitely an important episode for you! And even if you have that all figured out, this episode is chock-full of insights across art, technology, activism, speculative fiction, and more, so buckle up!If you’re loving the Urgent Futures podcast…Please subscribe + leave a review on your preferred podcast platform! Both things help the podcast grow. Guests on Urgent Futures are experts across art, science, media, technology, AI, philosophy, economics, mathematics, anthropology, journalism, and more. We live in complex times; these are the voices who will help you orient to emerging futures.Support Reality Studies:NOTE: Thank you for supporting my work by purchasing these products through the links provided. I will only ever share products I actually believe in.ZBiotics: Right now, get 10% off ZBiotics. Just head over to zbiotics.com and use code JESSEDAMIANI. If you have an evening with drinking and a morning you need to feel fresh, I strongly recommend these.Genetically engineered by a team of PhD microbiologists, ZBiotics is a probiotic drink that breaks down the byproduct of alcohol responsible for rough mornings after drinking (acetaldehyde).NordVPN: Right now, get up to 69% off 2-year plans + a Saily eSIM data gift through this link. Some people tell me that “VPN” brings to mind ideas of hackers and the dark web, but honestly VPNs are just an extremely easy way to stay much safer online. I’ve used NordVPN for the past four years, and appreciate what they offer, including Threat Protection against malware, 24/7 customer support, fast speeds, and more. One account can protect up to 6 devices (phone and computer), and they don’t track or share what you do online. Another benefit: you can always access the content/apps you have at home, wherever in the world you are.Mission Farms CBD: Mission Farms CBD crafts full-spectrum CBD products for specific conditions like sleep, stress, and discomfort, using a combination of CBD and terpenes found in essential oils. I swear by this stuff: I take one of their Marionberry Lemon gummies to end each day.There’s a lot of junk CBD on the market. All of Mission Farms’s CBD comes from a small farm in Bend, Oregon. They farm the hemp organically, tend every plant by hand, and test for purity four times: the soil, the hemp, the hemp-extract, and the final products. This CBD is designed for wellness and it shows. Go to this link and sign up for emails to get 25% off your first order.CREDITS: This podcast is edited and produced by Adam Labrie and me, Jesse Damiani. Adam Labrie also directed, shot, and edited the video version of the podcast, which is available on YouTube. The podcast is presented by Reality Studies. If you appreciate the work I’m doing, please subscribe and share it with someone you think would enjoy it.Find video episodes of Urgent Futures at: youtube.com/@UrgentFutures. Get full access to Reality Studies at www.realitystudies.co/subscribe

My guest this week is Nita Farahany.Nita Farahany is a pioneering changemaker and leading authority at the intersection of law, ethics, and technology. As the Robinson O. Everett Distinguished Professor of Law & Philosophy at Duke Law School, and Founding Director of Duke Science & Society, she drives transformative discussions on technology's ethical implications. Her seminal book, The Battle for Your Brain: Defending the Right to Think Freely in the Age of Neurotechnology (2023), charts a pathway to cognitive freedom in an increasingly interconnected world. A highly sought after speaker, her insights resonate from TED stages to the World Economic Forum. Serving on President Obama’s Presidential Commission (2010-2017) and advising entities including the U.S. BRAIN Initiative and the World Economic Forum, her expertise influences global technology policy. With a JD and Ph.D. in law and philosophy from Duke University, an AB in Genetics from Dartmouth, and ALM in Biology from Harvard, Farahany's interdisciplinary background informs her role as a prominent voice shaping global discourse on emerging technologies. Her leadership has been recognized broadly, including by election to the American Law Institute, AAAS, appointment to the Uniform Laws Commission, and her advisory role for Scientific American.I know everybody is still caught up on AI, and for good reason. But AI is far from the only technology that holds incredible promise and peril for our species. Another is neurotechnology. Neurotech is a broad, squishy category. On Wikipedia, it’s described as “[encompassing] any method or electronic device which interfaces with the nervous system to monitor or modulate neural activity.”One form of neurotech that has garnered attention—or at least meme-able social media moments—is brain-computer interface technology. Remember the monkey playing pong with its brain using Neuralink technology? You probably know this already, but Neuralink is owned by Elon Musk. So let’s imagine for a moment that Neuralink succeeds in rolling out the first mainstream BCIs. How would you feel about that single company knowing your mental, emotional, and psychological responses to stimuli? Things you might not even realize about yourself?Suddenly it makes a lot of sense why we need clear frameworks for protecting individuals now, rather than waiting until the technology is being rolled out to the public. This is why Professor Nita Farahany claims we urgently need to protect our fundamental right to “cognitive liberty.” She elaborates this idea in The Battle for Your Brain, what I see as the defining book on modern neurotechnology. Furthermore, she does an exceptional job in the book describing the state of affairs of neurotech as an industry and community, highlighting both the reasons to be excited and concerned about the technology, as well as sketching how we could begin incorporating legal protections through the human rights framework. And this week the book got a special paperbook release with an all-new chapter on—wait for it!—AI. So it’s a perfect time to go grab a copy, which I strongly encourage you to do!If you’re loving the Urgent Futures podcast…Please subscribe + leave a review on your preferred podcast platform! Both things help the podcast grow. Guests on Urgent Futures are experts across art, science, media, technology, AI, philosophy, economics, mathematics, anthropology, journalism, and more. We live in complex times; these are the voices who will help you orient to emerging futures.🎧 Audio versions of the podcast can be found Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts. 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