The Simple Heart w/ Wayne Hsiung

Today, we are in court arguing against Whole Foods’ effort to bankrupt me after I exposed their lies about “humane” farms. Here’s the behind the scenes story as to how I ended up in court. #WholeFoods - The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://simpleheart.org! - Chapter 1) 0:00-15:49 Intro: Wayne explains the Diestel court case and thoughts on the Whole Foods livestream. Chapter 2) 15:50-46:59 Livestream: “Wayne gets Arrested for Asking a Question.” from April 4th 2018 Chapter 3) 47:00-47:15 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis

Nathan and I discuss the deep-seated human desire for retribution – and how to harness it for change. — Follow Nathan: https://x.com/NathanJRobinson Follow Current Affairs: https://www.currentaffairs.org https://www.patreon.com/currentaffairs More links below. — The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://www.simpleheart.org! — Chapters: Chapter 1) 00:00-10:18 Intro, Nathan Robinson of Current Affairs, on those that profit from healthcare, & how to handle injustices of healthcare Chapter 2) 10:19-19:47 On suspected shooter Luigi Mangione, media coverage not talking about the underlying problems with the healthcare system, & why some try to justify the unjustifiable violence they choose to do Chapter 3) 19:48-27:37 Moral justice in social justice movements, on Bernie Sanders, & on Socialism Chapter 4) 27:38-38:59 Incremental change compared to immediate change in activism, Nathan’s personal and political journey, & on the Iraq War Chapter 5) 39:00-48:31 Emotional effect of seeing footage of suffering, the positive vision of social justice movements, on Socialism and animal rights, & on moral philosophers and animal rights Chapter 6) 48:32-58:33 The normalization of ignoring animal rights, how to undo the normalization of ignoring animal rights, & the rapid changes of social justice movements Chapter 7) 58:34-1:01:41 How to respond to injustices of the system and institutions & follow Current Affairs & Nathan (links above & below) Chapter 8) 1:01:42-1:01:58 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis — Books/Articles Mentioned: “The Myth of American Idealism” by Nathan J. Robinson and Noam Chomsky https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/why-you-should-read-the-myth-of-american-idealism PNAS: “The global biomass of wild mammals” https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2204892120 “Wild mammals make up only a few percent of the world’s mammals” by Hannah Ritchie https://ourworldindata.org/wild-mammals-birds-biomass “A Political Movement for Animal Rights Is Coming” by Wayne Hsiung https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/a-political-movement-for-animal-rights-is-coming “'It's A Cookbook': Animal Welfare Cascades” by Cass Sunstein https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3866727 “The Strength of Weak Ties” by Mark Granovetter https://www.jstor.org/stable/2776392 PDF link: https://snap.stanford.edu/class/cs224w-readings/granovetter73weakties.pdf “50 years on, Mark Granovetter’s ‘The Strength of Weak Ties’ is stronger than ever” by Melissa De Witte https://news.stanford.edu/stories/2023/07/strength-weak-ties “Threshold Models of Collective Behavior” by Mark Granovetter https://sociology.stanford.edu/publications/threshold-models-collective-behavior PDF link: https://www2.cs.siu.edu/~hexmoor/classes/CS539-F10/Collective-Behavior.pdf “Why You Should Be a Socialist” by Nathan J. Robinson https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/2019/12/why-you-should-buy-why-you-should-be-a-socialist — Follow Nathan: https://www.nathanjrobinson.com https://www.instagram.com/nathan___robinson/ https://www.facebook.com/njrobinson https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathan-robinson-751b211a/ Follow Current Affairs: https://www.linktr.ee/CurrentAffairs https://currentaffairs.substack.com/ https://x.com/CurAffairs https://www.threads.net/@currentaffairsmag https://www.tiktok.com/@current.affairs.mag https://www.instagram.com/currentaffairsmag/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/current-affairs-mag/ —

Justin Goodman, a Senior Vice President at White Coat Waste, was tarred as a racist & mocked as a conspiracy theorist for questioning Anthony Fauci’s experiments on animals at the height of the COVID-19 pandemic, including so-called “gain of function” at a Wuhan virus lab. But four years later, the dust has settled, & he won. We talk about how it happened, & what the Fauci beagle story says about science, government, & the future of animal rights. — Follow: https://www.whitecoatwaste.org https://x.com/JustinRGoodman — The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://www.simpleheart.org! — Chapters: Chapter 1) 00:00 Intro: Justin Goodman of White Coat Waste Project (WCW Project), animals experiments under any political administration, & can DOGE (Department Of Government Efficiency) can save animals during the incoming Trump administration Chapter 2) 8:12 On Fauci, on ending chimpanzee experiments, beagles experiments, & kitten experiments, how experiments on animals get funded by the government, & on Dr. Livingstone animal experiments Chapter 3) 22:09 On why scientists & vivisectors overlook ethical concerns, how to stop funding unnecessary government research on animals, & John Gluck on Harry Harlow Chapter 4) 35:15 How government funding experiments on animals started & continues Chapter 5) 40:43 WCW Project investigating animal experiments & “respiratory illness” (Covid-19) in 2019 & Fauci, & zoonotic diseases from animal testing lab leaks & factory farm animals but not from wet markets Chapter 6) 50:28 Public criticism toward Justin & WCW Project for saying animal testing lab leaks started Covid-19, & how Fauci lied that Covid-19 was not from animal testing lab leaks because he did not want government funding animal experiments to end Chapter 7) 1:01:05 Trust & mistrust in government institutions especially during the pandemic, exposing Fauci & government officials lying about funding animal testing labs that caused Covid-19, & “the banality of evil” in animal research Chapter 8) 1:11:10 WCW Project investigations (in 2021) exposing Fauci/NIH beagle testing, bipartisan & public criticism of Fauci/NIH, The Washington Post coverage lying WCW Project evidence of Fauci/NIH funding beagle testing, WCW Project FOIA requests for Fauci/NIH funding beagle testing, & The Washington Post published a weak retraction article but they did not correct prior false coverage Chapter 9) 1:28:31 Justin’s communication w/The Washington Post journalists, on mainstream media coverage, fear among activists in the animal rights movement,& on the Ridglan Farms Beagle case Chapter 10) 1:37:33 Recent change in cultural & political perception of animal testing & on the closing of Envigo dog breed Chapter 11) 1:43:35 What is the future for farmed animals compared to lab animals in the animal right movement, single-issue campaigns, & building relationships Chapter 12) 1:54:18 Justin’s most important lessons for animal rights activists,& follow WCW Project & Justin (links above/below) Chapter 13) 1:57:48 Outro video - Thanks for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis — Articles/Books: “DOGE Can Save Dogs—and Tax Dollars | Opinion” https://www.newsweek.com/doge-can-save-dogs-tax-dollars-opinion-1992671 "Documents Link Potential Covid Patient Zero to U.S.-Funded Research in Wuhan" https://theintercept.com/2023/06/17/covid-origin-wuhan-patient-zero/ The Trial by Franz Kafka https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trial  — Follow: https://www.blog.whitecoatwaste.org https://www.youtube.com/@WhiteCoatWaste https://www.instagram.com/whitecoatwaste/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/white-coat-waste-project/ https://x.com/WhiteCoatWaste https://www.facebook.com/whitecoatwaste https://www.tiktok.com/@whitecoatwaste https://www.threads.net/@whitecoatwaste — Links: DOGE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_Government_Efficiency

Melanie Joy is a Harvard-educated psychologist who focuses on how individual mental patterns can cause (or block) social transformation. And she has focused much of her work recently on so-called “relational dysfunction” and “dysregulation” are undermining, not just social movements, but all of human society. We talk about what dysfunction and dysregulation in relationships looks like, and how to overcome it, in this conversation. — Beyond Carnism’s website: https://carnism.org/  Learn more about Melanie’s award-winning book, “Why We Love Dogs, Eat Pigs, and Wear Cows” and download the first chapter for free: https://carnism.org/books  End Infighting website:https://infighting.org/  Learn more about Melanie’s book, “How to End Injustice Everywhere”: https://infighting.org/how-to-end-injustice-everywhere  Beyond Carnism’s social media links: https://www.instagram.com/beyondcarnism  https://www.facebook.com/beyondcarnism  https://bsky.app/profile/beyondcarnism.bsky.social  https://youtube.com/@BeyondCarnism/  Melanie Joy’s social media links: https://www.instagram.com/drmelaniejoy  https://www.facebook.com/melaniejoyphd  https://bsky.app/profile/drmelaniejoy.bsky.social  https://www.linkedin.com/in/drmelaniejoy/  — The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://www.simpleheart.org! — Chapters: Chapter 1) 00:00-14:09 Intro, what is relational literacy (integrity, communication, and connection), social media, & responding to people that act morally superior to others Chapter 2) 14:10-27:01 How to not call out individuals for bad behavior & on publicly shaming institutions Chapter 3) 27:02-42:59 On anger vs contempt, on shame vs guilt, & how to use your anger in a productive way Chapter 4) 43:00-53:09 On mindfulness and meditation & on social media and capitalism Chapter 5) 53:10-1:04:04 About building relational literacy & are there limits of relational literacy Chapter 6) 1:04:05-1:08:43 Why Melanie started working on relational literacy and activist infighting, use Beyond Carnism resources, & follow Beyond Carnism and Melanie (links above) Chapter 7) 1:08:44-1:09:00 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis — Books/Articles Mentioned: “No Bad Parts: Healing Trauma and Restoring Wholeness with the Internal Family Systems Model” by Richard C. Schwartz (2021): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_C._Schwartz  “Getting Relationships Right: How to Build Resilience and Thrive in Life, Love, and Work” by Melanie Joy: https://carnism.org/book/getting-relationships-right/  “The Sociopaths Among Us—And How to Avoid Them: You’re bound to come across the ‘Dark Triad’ type of malignant narcissists in life—and they can be superficially appealing. Better to look for their exact opposite.” by Arthur C. Brooks: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/10/dark-triads-toxic-personalities/675683/  — Movies mentioned: “Blackfish” (2013, Documentary) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackfish_(film)  “Inside Out” (2015) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inside_Out_(2015_film)  “Inside Out 2” (2024) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inside_Out_2  — Apps mentioned: “Waking Up: Meditation & Wisdom”  (This app is available only on the App Store for iPhone, iPad, and Apple Watch.) https://apps.apple.com/us/app/waking-up-meditation-wisdom/id1307736395  “Waking Up: Beyond Meditation” https://apps.apple.com/ni/app/waking-up-beyond-meditation/id1307736395  https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.wakingup.android&hl=en_US&pli=1  — Other links: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adyashanti  https://adyashanti.opengatesangha.org/  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Shukman  https://henryshukman.com/  https://lochkelly.org/  https://veganadvocacy.org/  —

What do horror movies, antebellum slavery, and cannibalism have in common? They all connect to the economic conditions required for political transformation — including the struggle for animal rights. This conversation with YouTuber Andrew Rakich (Atun-Shei Films) dives deeply into what we can learn from atrocities (both fictional and real) on how to create change. — Why Ravenous is the Greatest Movie Ever Made: https://youtu.be/oeUrwVXGL-4 Overanalyzing Ravenous: https://youtu.be/roRD4F9pg5s  (Other links below.) — The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://www.simpleheart.org! — Chapters: Chapter 1) 00:00-9:12 Intro: history, traditions, religions/spirituality, horror movies, and the connections to animals rights Chapter 2) 9:13-22:13 Cannibalism, YouTube monetization, & factory farms, society’s values and taboos towards speciesism, beagles at Ridglan Farms Chapter 3) 22:14-35:36 Activists targeted for telling the truth, right-wing populism is rising due to unresolved political issues, & how the world will change Chapter 4) 35:37-47:44 On dog food, ethical considerations, & how movements succeed: social vs economic Chapter 5) 47:45-1:01:24 Who is abolitionist Benjamin Lay & how injustices intersect Chapter 6) 1:01:25-1:14:30 Learning from abolitionist Benjamin Lay & economic changes in society  Chapter 7) 1:14:31-1:25:49 Social and narrative changes in society & identity politics  Chapter 8) 1:25:50-1:33:42 Abolitionist Benjamin Lay’s cave, connection to Benjamin Franklin, and daily vegan/animal rights activism  Chapter 9) 1:33:43-1:45:32 Environmentalists and vegans, how to achieve systemic change, & the Denver ballot initiative Chapter 10) 1:44:33-1:51:13 How Andrew became a self-taught “historian” on YouTube & follow Andrew and Atun-Shei Films on social media (links below) Chapter 11) 1:51:14-1:51:29 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis — Follow Atun-Shei Films: https://www.youtube.com/@AtunSheiFilms   https://www.patreon.com/atunsheifilms  https://www.teespring.com/stores/atun-shei-films  https://www.atunsheifilms.com  https://www.twitter.com/atun_shei  https://www.vimeo.com/atunsheifilms  https://www.instagram.com/atunsheifilms/  https://www.facebook.com/atunsheifilm Watch The Sudbury Devil https://www.atunsheifilms.vhx.tv  — Follow Andrew: https://www.youtube.com/@andrewrakich  https://www.facebook.com/the.name.on.the.grave.is.arch.stanton  https://x.com/atun_shei  https://www.instagram.com/andrew.rakich/  — Books Mentioned: “Night” by Elie Wiesel “What's the Matter with Kansas?” by Thomas Frank “All Slave-Keepers That Keep the Innocent in Bondage, Apostates” by Benjamin Lay “A Way to Health, Long Life, and Happiness (1691 Edition)” by Thomas Tryon — Movies mentioned: “Ravenous” (1999 - R - Horror/Western - 1h 41m) “The Texas Chain Saw Massacre” (1974 - R - Horror/Crime - 1h 23m) “Babe”  (1995 -  G - Family/Comedy - 1h 31m) — Other links: Benjamin Lay https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Lay  “He Was an Anti-Racist Vegan Radical... in 1738”https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIkQrr8pgSI 

Trent Loos and I met on the day that I organized a rescue that sent me to jail. And Trent was part of the charge pushing the government to put me in prison. So why am I talking to him during the holiday season about things on which we agree? — Trent on XTwitter: https://x.com/trentloos  — The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://www.simpleheart.org! — Chapters: Chapter 1) 00:00-9:51 Intro, happy to have another conversation, nonhuman animals: property or not property, on Measure J in Sonoma County, companies lying to the public, factory farming, on appealing the Sunrise Farms case (in Sonoma County),  Chapter 2) 9:52-20:56 Why cannibalism happens on farms compared to the wild, mortality rates on factory farms, & animals in the wild Chapter 3) 20:57-34:25 Animals in cages, employees on factory farms, companies not adhering to animal welfare standards, on Smithfield Foods, ending subsidies to factory farms, & the general welfare of the public Chapter 4) 34:26-46:51 On political parties, corporate welfare compared to public welfare, subsidizing factory farms that kill animals, on the USDA, on the Farm Bureau, & the ASPCA and the Humane Society  Chapter 5) 46:52-51:48 On the “Right to Repair,” John Deere, and the Farm Bureau, on monopolies of other systems that only help corporations, on the incoming Presidential administration,  Chapter 6) 51:49-57:43 What is the solution to the problems, the lack of trust in institutions, on working together, & how to resist the large concentrations of power Chapter 7) 57:44-57:58 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis —

James Aspey and I talk about how he gained nearly 50 pounds of muscle while eating mostly Pad Thai, and the merits of taking the Liberation Pledge at Thanksgiving. — Follow James: https://www.youtube.com/@James_Aspey  https://www.instagram.com/jimmycashpey/  https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=706979461  https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61550037632451 https://twitter.com/jamesaspey_  jimmycashpey@proton.me  — The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://www.simpleheart.org! — Chapters: Chapter 1) 00:00-16:46 Intro, James Aspey to Jimmy Cashpey, on the Liberation Pledge, on vegan fitness/health influencers, & on safely using steroids and exercising with health issues Chapter 2) 16:47-28:44 On misinformation about soy, Wayne and former Whole Foods CEO John Mackey, & more on safely using steroids and exercising with health issues Chapter 3) 28:45-40:20 Steroids & testosterone replacement therapy, Wayne’s immune system, James and pain management, & Wayne and football teammates exercising as a teen Chapter 4) 40:21-46:04 “Natural food” compared to “processed food” and a plant-based diet  Chapter 5) 46:05-1:06:04 More on the Liberation Pledge, briefly meet James’s cat named JC (black cat), on the book “Animal Liberation” and Peter Singer, the three parts of the Liberation Pledge, & talking with family Chapter 6) 1:06:05-1:17:24 James’s idea: annual Liberation Pledge Day, the power of speaking up that each vegan has to affect change, Wayne at his mom’s funeral, & James confronts Wayne Chapter 7) 1:17:25-1:24:40 On vegan meat, on lab meat, a restaurant served James chicken instead of vegan chicken, different ways people take the Liberation Pledge, & benefits of the Liberation Pledge Chapter 8) 1:24:41-1:31:24 Argument for everyone taking the Liberation Pledge, on Gary Yourofsky, on James’s album with 30 songs, & briefly meet James’s cat named Dexter (tabby cat) Chapter 9) 1:31:25-1:37:11 James’s recently released rap about COP29 on Instagram (link below) & follow James on Instagram (@jimmycashpey), YouTube, and Facebook (links above) Chapter 10) 1:37:12-1:37:16 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis — Books Mentioned: “Animal Liberation” by Peter Singer — Links: Conversation from 2017 Eat At Tables Where Animals Are Served? (w/ Wayne Hsuing, DxE) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57DX5UelIWU  Previous podcasts https://youtu.be/w4HyZdxC8go https://youtu.be/1stmGzdgutw Liberation Pledgehttps://liberationpledge.com/  “Peter Singer Wants to Shatter Your Moral Complacency” https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/02/magazine/peter-singer-interview.html  IG @ jimmycashpey - COP29 Rap Reaction video https://www.instagram.com/p/DCdAbiQsF0J/  —

I speak to renowned philosopher Peter Singer about his new book, Consider the Turkey, and about his new artificial intelligence platform, Peter Singer AI, which allows him to answer an unlimited number of ethical questions without doing any work himself! Peter has some surprising recommendations: including a possible boycott of Thanksgiving! — “Consider the Turkey” by Peter Singer: https://shop.peta.org/consider-the-turkey.html  https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691231686/consider-the-turkey  Peter Singer AI: https://www.petersinger.ai  (More links below.) — The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://www.simpleheart.org! — Chapters: Chapter 1) 00:00-9:27 Intro, Peter has not retired, Peter’s new book “Consider the Turkey,” & how the animal agricultural industry violates turkeys for “artificial insemination” and the slaughters of turkeys  Chapter 2) 9:28-19:27 Peter on boycotting Thanksgiving, intelligence of turkeys & the story of Cornelius the turkey Chapter 3) 19:28-28:25 Self-awareness of turkeys, Peter and his family hosting as vegetarian/vegan, & Peter on speaking at non-vegan or vegan events Chapter 4) 28:26-35:23 The ethics of AI & how AI affects non-human animals Chapter 5) 35:24-49:24 What is “Peter Singer AI,” the ethics of eating mammals/being vegetarian in different countries/communities, & the corruption of religion and philosophical traditions Chapter 6) 49:25-55:01 Any worries about “Peter Singer AI,” advice to people on talking with friends and family during the holidays, & Peter’s new book “Consider the Turkey” (links above)  Chapter 7) 55:02-55:17 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis — Follow Peter Singer: https://www.petersinger.info/  https://www.petersinger.info/podcast  https://www.instagram.com/peter__singer https://www.facebook.com/PeterSingerOfficialPage https://twitter.com/PeterSinger  https://www.linkedin.com/in/petersinger/  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC20JvMah3yzx8SthM5OOCzA  https://boldreasoningwithpetersinger.substack.com/  — New York Times article: “Peter Singer Wants to Shatter Your Moral Complacency” https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/02/magazine/peter-singer-interview.html  —

There’s a tendency for many to avoid conversation, much less confrontation, around the turkeys being served at our Thanksgiving dinner. Mark Westcombe, the director for Animal Think Tank, explains why we should do the opposite: tough personal conversations are crucial to building a mass movement!  — Boycott & Anniversary Letter (Liberation Pledge letter Mark sent to friends and family): https://docs.google.com/document/d/18v_gIRIKkQwenhunN5BkY8-WZUsF12glLvuPacCMYWM/edit?usp=sharing  Why The Liberation Pledge Works: https://docs.google.com/document/d/11bsmj-UU27Ao3auBKBV_yn7rcZ-hPpd8mmhu4dl6o8w/edit?tab=t.0 — Follow Mark: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-westcombe/  Follow Animal Think Tank: https://animalthinktank.org.uk/  (More links below.) — The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://www.simpleheart.org! — Chapters: Chapter 1) 00:00-16:46 Intro, Mark’s animal rights activists journey before Animal Think Tank & on mass movements to negotiate positive change Chapter 2) 16:47-27:58 Mark’s personal story as an manger and setting up a commune, how people are changing, & capacity in the animal rights movement Chapter 3) 27:59-44:21 Mark’s life after leaving the commune and becoming an activist & Mark on being gay Chapter 4) 44:22-54:02 Mark’s coming out “story,” “coming out” as a vegan/animal rights activist, & how food is connected to love, identity, and family  Chapter 5) 54:03-1:09:46 The Liberation Pledge, Peter Singer, & how Mark does The Liberation Pledge Chapter 6) 1:09:47-1:18:23 Wayne on the Liberation Pledge and Doug McAdam, Mark talking to colleagues about the Liberation Pledge, & speaking up against sexism Chapter 7) 1:18:24-1:21:18 Mark’s mom’s funeral Chapter 8) 1:21:19-1:23:32 Wayne’s mom’s funeral Chapter 9) 1:23:33-1:34:44 Institutions, clubs, and the Liberation Pledge  Chapter 10) 1:34:45-1:45:00 Why the Liberation Pledge is not widespread, the historical sacrifices of activists, & Wayne’s ties Chapter 11) 1:45:01-1:52:17 How to reignite the Liberation Pledge, Mark’s advice to activists about the Liberation Pledge and Thanksgiving, & follow Mark and Animal Think Tank (links below) Chapter 12) 1:54:18-1:54:33 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis — Follow Animal Think Tank: https://animalthinktank.org.uk/  https://animalthinktank.substack.com/  https://www.linkedin.com/company/animal-think-tank/  https://www.instagram.com/animal_think_tank/  https://x.com/AnimalThinkTank  https://www.facebook.com/animalthinktank  — Books Mentioned: “Bury the Chains” by Adam Hochschild —

Elon Musk defended Peanut the squirrel - but also funds grotesque experiments on monkeys in labs. And Elon is like many people in his bizarre, inconsistent views on animal rights. What explains the hypocrisy? And what can be done to overcome it? — Follow David: https://youtube.com/@davidramms https://patreon.com/davidramms  https://www.instagram.com/davidramms/  https://davidramms.substack.com/ https://davidramms.com/  https://twitter.com/itsdavidramms https://www.facebook.com/itsdavidramms  https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidramms/  — The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://www.simpleheart.org! — Chapters: Chapter 1) 00:00-12:40 Intro, public reactions to the killing of Peanut the Squirrel and Fred the Racoon, how Peanut’s story affected the US Presidential election, & a broken government system Chapter 2) 12:41-21:08 A bad government system not a conspiracy & animals legally seen as property Chapter 3) 21:09-30:06 Elon’s cognitive dissonance towards animals & Elon and Effective Altruism Chapter 4) 30:07-44:02 Fear of talking about animal rights issues, pressure campaigns, political leanings of activists, & tribalism’s lack of empathy Chapter 5) 44:03-57:28 Peanut’s story should have been bipartisan, David’s controversial opinions, & Wayne’s controversial opinions Chapter 6) 57:29-1:02:41 Exploitative systems towards humans and animals Chapter 7) 1:02:42-1:26:07 On exercise and health, overcoming bad habits and addictions for positive changes, & on old and new video games Chapter 8) 1:26:08-1:37:41 Detachment from the real suffering of animals, on daily living, & on insects Chapter 9) 1:37:42-1:47:09 David’s advice to animal rights activists, why PETA and the animal rights movement didn’t talk about Peanut, & follow David on YouTube Chapter 10) 1:47:10-1:47:26 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis — Links: “Peanut the Squirrel’s Death Reveals a Dark Truth About Us” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lw-4zng1Jk  “Did This Pet Squirrel Actually Influence the Election?” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP0dIyYOCbc “How the US Election Reveals a Critical Insight for Vegans” https://davidramms.substack.com/p/how-the-us-election-reveals-a-critical  — Books Mentioned: “Elon Musk” by Walter Isaacson