
The Leading Edge in Emotionally Focused Therapy
Helping therapists on their leading edge of learning so they can help clients on their leading edge of healing. In each episode, we try to focus on parts/moments of the counseling experience through the lens of Emotionally Focused Therapy, developed by Sue Johnson. We share how we are being pushed in our growth process and things we are learning from our clients in their growth process. We are also thankful for the many EFTSupervisors and Trainers who share their learning nuggets with us to pass on to you. We invite you into a brave space as we all push our leading edges of learning and healing.
Latest episodes

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Nov 29, 2023 • 28min
69. Stuck Series: Not Addressing Marginalization
Welcome to another installment of our stuck series. This episode discusses how the process gets stuck when we don't address cultural marginalization.
Welcome to the Leading Edge in Emotionally Focused Therapy with Drs. James Hawkins, Ph.D., LPC, and Ryan Rana, Ph.D., LMFT, LPC, ICEEFT Therapists, Supervisors, and Trainers. Thank you for listening. We hope this experience helps you push the leading edge in your work to help people connect with themselves and each other.
You can financially contribute to this podcast on Venmo (@leftpodcast). Type LEFT or Leading Edge in EFT in the comments or notes section. All financial contributions are greatly appreciated and will help us keep producing content to help you push your leading edge.
We desire to use this podcast to help equip therapists with tools and encouragement to help them with relational distress. We are also part of a team that has created an online training program, Success in Vulnerability (SV). Success In Vulnerability is your premier online education experience that leads with innovative instruction to advance your therapeutic effectiveness through Success in Vulnerability's exclusive Modules and full-length Clinical Examples.
You can follow us on our Facebook page @pushtheleadingedge
You can follow Ryan on Facebook @ryanranaprofessionaltraining and his website
You can follow James on Facebook and Instagram @dochawklpc. You can also check out his website, dochawklpc.com
Check out our online training program, Success in Vulnerability (SV)
You can follow George @ https://www.georgefaller.com/.

Nov 21, 2023 • 34min
68. Stuck Series: When You Reach the Ultimate Stuckness | The Meta-Ladder
In this insightful session, the hosts tackle the concept of 'ultimate stuckness' and introduce the fascinating 'meta ladder' tool to aid therapists. They discuss the dynamics of emotional paralysis in couples therapy and the necessity of timely interventions. Emphasizing flexibility in therapeutic strategies, they explore how to manage client resistance and the unique challenges of high-conflict situations. The importance of resource networks for clients is highlighted, showcasing innovative ways to enhance therapeutic effectiveness.

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Nov 14, 2023 • 28min
67. Stuck Series: Using Focus to Manage the Session
This is the sixth episode dedicated to helping you join stuck processes. In this episode, we discuss the use of triggers to help get traction.
Welcome to the Leading Edge in Emotionally Focused Therapy with Drs. James Hawkins, Ph.D., LPC, and Ryan Rana, Ph.D., LMFT, LPC, ICEEFT Therapists, Supervisors, and Trainers. Thank you for listening. We hope this experience helps you push the leading edge in your work to help people connect with themselves and each other.
You can financially contribute to this podcast on Venmo (@leftpodcast). Type LEFT or Leading Edge in EFT in the comments or notes section. All financial contributions are greatly appreciated and will help us keep producing content to help you push your leading edge.
We desire to use this podcast to help equip therapists with tools and encouragement to help them with relational distress. We are also part of a team that has created an online training program, Success in Vulnerability (SV). Success In Vulnerability is your premier online education experience that leads with innovative instruction to advance your therapeutic effectiveness through Success in Vulnerability’s exclusive Modules and full-length Clinical Examples.
You can follow us on our Facebook page @pushtheleadingedge
You can follow Ryan on Facebook @ryanranaprofessionaltraining and his website
You can follow James on Facebook and Instagram @dochawklpc. You can also check out his website, dochawklpc.com
Check out our online training program, Success in Vulnerability (SV)
You can follow George @ https://www.georgefaller.com/.

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Nov 7, 2023 • 31min
66. The Stuck Series: Using Triggers to Get Traction
This is the sixth episode dedicated to helping you join stuck processes. In this episode, we discuss the use of triggers to help get traction.
Welcome to the Leading Edge in Emotionally Focused Therapy with Drs. James Hawkins, Ph.D., LPC, and Ryan Rana, Ph.D., LMFT, LPC, ICEEFT Therapists, Supervisors, and Trainers. Thank you for listening. We hope this experience helps you push the leading edge in your work to help people connect with themselves and each other.
You can financially contribute to this podcast on Venmo (@dochawklpc) or Cash App ($dochawklpc). Type LEFT or Leading Edge in EFT in the comments or notes section. All financial contributions are greatly appreciated and will help us keep producing content to help you push your leading edge.
We desire to use this podcast to help equip therapists with tools and encouragement to help them with relational distress. We are also part of a team that has created an online training program, Success in Vulnerability (SV). Success In Vulnerability is your premier online education experience that leads with innovative instruction to advance your therapeutic effectiveness through Success in Vulnerability’s exclusive Modules and full-length Clinical Examples.
The Leading Edge After Core Skills: Navigating Emotional Reactivity (November 10-11th, 2023)
Experienced EFT therapists are invited to join the Leading Edge in Emotionally Focused Therapy Podcast hosts for a weekend workshop. The objective is to help therapists sharpen their focus with a decision tree of interventions based on attunement to the emotional reactivity in the session.
Registration Link: https://www.northtexaseft.com/event/leading-edge-of-core-skills-training/
You can follow us on our Facebook page @pushtheleadingedge
You can follow Ryan on Facebook @ryanranaprofessionaltraining and his website
You can follow James on Facebook and Instagram @dochawklpc. You can also check out his website, dochawklpc.com
Check out our online training program, Success in Vulnerability (SV)
You can follow George @ https://www.georgefaller.com/.

Oct 31, 2023 • 37min
65. Stuck Series: Self of the Therapist
This is the fifth episode dedicated to helping you join stuck processes. In this episode, we seek to help therapists know their process and get the most out of their presence in session. Our central case is that you can't try to avoid it, and it helps to plan to go towards issues plaguing the process.
Welcome to the Leading Edge in Emotionally Focused Therapy with Drs. James Hawkins, Ph.D., LPC, and Ryan Rana, Ph.D., LMFT, LPC, ICEEFT Therapists, Supervisors, and Trainers. Thank you for listening. We hope this experience helps you push the leading edge in your work to help people connect with themselves and each other.
You can financially contribute to this podcast on Venmo (@dochawklpc) or Cash App ($dochawklpc). Type LEFT or Leading Edge in EFT in the comments or notes section. All financial contributions are greatly appreciated and will help us keep producing content to help you push your leading edge.
We desire to use this podcast to help equip therapists with tools and encouragement to help them with relational distress. We are also part of a team that has created an online training program, Success in Vulnerability (SV). Success In Vulnerability is your premier online education experience that leads with innovative instruction to advance your therapeutic effectiveness through Success in Vulnerability’s exclusive Modules and full-length Clinical Examples.
The Leading Edge After Core Skills: Navigating Emotional Reactivity (November 10-11th, 2023)
Experienced EFT therapists are invited to join the Leading Edge in Emotionally Focused Therapy Podcast hosts for a weekend workshop. The objective is to help therapists sharpen their focus with a decision tree of interventions based on attunement to the emotional reactivity in the session.
Registration Link: https://www.northtexaseft.com/event/leading-edge-of-core-skills-training/
You can follow us on our Facebook page @pushtheleadingedge
You can follow Ryan on Facebook @ryanranaprofessionaltraining and his website
You can follow James on Facebook and Instagram @dochawklpc. You can also check out his website, dochawklpc.com
Check out our online training program, Success in Vulnerability (SV)
You can follow George @ https://www.georgefaller.com/.

Oct 24, 2023 • 36min
64. Stuck Series: Getting Out Ahead of the Cycle/Directness
This discussion emphasizes the importance of tackling recurring challenges in therapy head-on. It explores how therapists can navigate negative cycles in client relationships through pacing and transparent communication. Directness is highlighted as a key strategy, balancing empathy with assertiveness to foster growth. Techniques for managing emotional responses within relationships are shared, showcasing how addressing uncomfortable moments can strengthen therapeutic connections. Listeners are encouraged to invest in their practice for better outcomes.

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Oct 17, 2023 • 33min
63. Stuck Series: Handling Content
This is our third episode dedicated to helping you join in really stuck processes. In this specific episode, we talk about how to avoid getting stuck in the content solution trap.
Welcome to the Leading Edge in Emotionally Focused Therapy with Drs. James Hawkins, Ph.D., LPC, and Ryan Rana, Ph.D., LMFT, LPC, ICEEFT Therapists, Supervisors, and Trainers. Thank you for listening. We hope this experience helps you push the leading edge in your work to help people connect with themselves and each other.
You can financially contribute to this podcast on Venmo (@dochawklpc) or Cash App ($dochawklpc). Type LEFT or Leading Edge in EFT in the comments or notes section. All financial contributions are greatly appreciated and will help us keep producing content to help you push your leading edge.
We desire to use this podcast to help equip therapists with tools and encouragement to help them with relational distress. We are also part of a team that has created an online training program, Success in Vulnerability (SV). Success In Vulnerability is your premier online education experience that leads with innovative instruction to advance your therapeutic effectiveness through Success in Vulnerability’s exclusive Modules and full-length Clinical Examples.
The Leading Edge After Core Skills: Navigating Emotional Reactivity (November 10-11th, 2023)
Experienced EFT therapists are invited to join the Leading Edge in Emotionally Focused Therapy Podcast hosts for a weekend workshop. The objective is to help therapists sharpen their focus with a decision tree of interventions based on attunement to the emotional reactivity in the session.
Registration Link: https://www.northtexaseft.com/event/leading-edge-of-core-skills-training/
You can follow us on our Facebook page @pushtheleadingedge
You can follow Ryan on Facebook @ryanranaprofessionaltraining and his website
You can follow James on Facebook and Instagram @dochawklpc. You can also check out his website, dochawklpc.com
Check out our online training program, Success in Vulnerability (SV)
You can follow George @ https://www.georgefaller.com/.

9 snips
Oct 10, 2023 • 39min
62. The Stuck Series: The Burnout Pursuer
This is our second episode dedicated to helping you join in really stuck processes. In this specific episode, we talk about coming alongside burnout pursuers.
Welcome to the Leading Edge in Emotionally Focused Therapy with Drs. James Hawkins, Ph.D., LPC, and Ryan Rana, Ph.D., LMFT, LPC, ICEEFT Therapists, Supervisors, and Trainers. Thank you for listening. We hope this experience helps you push the leading edge in your work to help people connect with themselves and each other.
You can financially contribute to this podcast on Venmo (@dochawklpc) or Cash App ($dochawklpc). Type LEFT or Leading Edge in EFT in the comments or notes section. All financial contributions are greatly appreciated and will help us keep producing content to help you push your leading edge.
We desire to use this podcast to help equip therapists with tools and encouragement to help them with relational distress. We are also part of a team that has created an online training program, Success in Vulnerability (SV). Success In Vulnerability is your premier online education experience that leads with innovative instruction to advance your therapeutic effectiveness through Success in Vulnerability’s exclusive Modules and full-length Clinical Examples.
The Leading Edge After Core Skills: Navigating Emotional Reactivity (November 10-11th, 2023)
Experienced EFT therapists are invited to join the Leading Edge in Emotionally Focused Therapy Podcast hosts for a weekend workshop. The objective is to help therapists sharpen their focus with a decision tree of interventions based on attunement to the emotional reactivity in the session.
Registration Link: https://www.northtexaseft.com/event/leading-edge-of-core-skills-training/
You can follow us on our Facebook page @pushtheleadingedge
You can follow Ryan on Facebook @ryanranaprofessionaltraining and his website
You can follow James on Facebook and Instagram @dochawklpc. You can also check out his website, dochawklpc.com
Check out our online training program, Success in Vulnerability (SV)
You can follow George @ https://www.georgefaller.com/.

Oct 3, 2023 • 39min
61. The Stuck Series: Clients Using Blame
Discover the challenges of clients who rely on blame in therapy sessions. The discussion sheds light on how blame can serve as a complex emotional anchor, revealing both overt and covert dynamics in relationships. Learn about the inner turmoil behind blame and its impact on relational safety. The hosts emphasize empathy as a crucial tool for understanding these behaviors and provide therapeutic strategies to reframe blame into constructive communication. Join them in exploring how to help clients transition towards healthier emotional connections.

16 snips
Aug 31, 2023 • 43min
60. Client’s Not Engaging in Session: Withdraw Withdraw Cycles
In this episode, we cover what to do when a couple comes in, presenting in a "withdraw-withdraw" cycle.
Welcome to the Leading Edge in Emotionally Focused Therapy with Drs. James Hawkins, Ph.D., LPC, and Ryan Rana, Ph.D., LMFT, LPC, ICEEFT Therapists, Supervisors, and Trainers. Thank you for listening. We hope this experience helps you push the leading edge in your work to help people connect with themselves and each other.
You can financially contribute to this podcast on Venmo (@dochawklpc) or Cash App ($dochawklpc). Type LEFT or Leading Edge in EFT in the comments or notes section. All financial contributions are greatly appreciated and will help us keep producing content to help you push your leading edge.
We desire to use this podcast to help equip therapists with tools and encouragement to help them with relational distress. We are also part of a team that has created an online training program, Success in Vulnerability (SV). Success In Vulnerability is your premier online education experience that leads with innovative instruction to advance your therapeutic effectiveness through Success in Vulnerability’s exclusive Modules and full-length Clinical Examples.
The Leading Edge After Core Skills: Navigating Emotional Reactivity
Experienced EFT therapists are invited to join the Leading Edge in Emotionally Focused Therapy Podcast hosts for a weekend workshop. The objective is to help therapists sharpen their focus with a decision tree of interventions based on attunement to the emotional reactivity in the session.
Registration Link: https://www.northtexaseft.com/event/leading-edge-of-core-skills-training/
You can follow us on our Facebook page @pushtheleadingedge
You can follow Ryan on Facebook @ryanranaprofessionaltraining and his website
You can follow James on Facebook and Instagram @dochawklpc. You can also check out his website, dochawklpc.com
Check out our online training program, Success in Vulnerability (SV)
You can follow George @ https://www.georgefaller.com/.