Recode Replay

Recode co-founder and The Verge executive editor Walt Mossberg talks with former Twitter CEO Dick Costolo about his 26-year career in tech journalism. Mossberg recounts stories about meetings with executives like Apple's Steve Jobs and Microsoft's Bill Gates and how much has changed between his first Personal Technology column in 1991 and his final column in May. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Emerson Collective President Laurene Powell Jobs and U.S. Senator Kamala Harris talk with Recode's Kara Swisher about what they're doing to improve opportunities for undocumented young people in America. Jobs says a supermajority of Americans support a path to citizenship for these immigrants and Harris says much of the opposition to them earning a permanent place in the country comes from people who have never met such an immigrant. They also discuss what should be done about economic anxiety across the country, with Harris arguing that the only antidote is to tell the uncomfortable truth: Society is changing and many people in dying professions will need to be retrained. Plus: Why is Jobs investing in media and is Harris going to run for president in 2020? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Conservative politician and former independent presidential candidate Evan McMullin talks with The Verge's Walt Mossberg about what comes next now that Donald Trump is the president and the standard-bearer of the Republican Party. McMullin discusses the 501c4 he co-founded, Stand Up Republic, which is trying to organize a grassroots movement to "defend democracy" and its traditional principles. A former CIA operative, McMullin also talks about why there has been an outpouring of anti-Trump leaks from the intelligence community. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Viacom and CBS Vice Chair Shari Redstone talks with Recode's Peter Kafka about the venture firm she co-founded in 2011, Advancit Capital, and why it operates outside of her other companies. She says her biggest mistake there was not investing in Twitch in 2011 because she thought the video game-streaming company was already too highly valued. Redstone also discusses how content companies like Viacom are facing the challenges of the digital age and why they don't necessarily need to sell themselves off, as Time Warner is trying to do. She says she's not too worried about tech companies like Twitter, Google and Facebook making bids for the rights to NFL games, which CBS has locked up for several years. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Time Warner Chairman and CEO Jeff Bewkes talks with Recode's Peter Kafka about how the company's pending sale to AT&T is faring under President Trump. Bewkes argues that the AT&T deal would help Time Warner get on "equal footing" in the ad business with companies like YouTube, but said he has no plans to add advertising to HBO. He also discusses whether Time Warner-owned CNN has any regrets about how it covered the 2016 presidential campaign and how he evaluates the likely rollback of the FCC's net neutrality rules. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kernel founder Bryan Johnson talks about why he wants to "put a chip in your brain." He says we're enterting a "new era of neuroscience" that will let us understand and use the brain in completely new ways. Reading and writing neural code could control and possibly eliminate disorders such as Parkinson's or depression, Johnson says. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

: "Bears in the Streets" author Lisa Dickey talks about her journeys across the whole of Russia, beginning with a prescient digital camera-enabled trip in 1995, only a few years after the end of the Cold War. Dickey returned in 2005 and 2015, checking in with many of the same people and towns she had visited before. She says the Russian people often feel slighted by America — and yes, most of them really do love President Vladimir Putin as much as the polls say. The way forward, she suggests, is remembering that the country is bigger than its leader. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jill Soloway, the creator of the Amazon TV series "Transparent," talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about their new show, "I Love Dick," which stars Kevin Bacon and Kathryn Hahn. They say Amazon is more hands-off than traditional TV networks and has helped diversify the female characters we see on TV. Soloway's company, Topple Productions, is aimed at disrupting the "white male gaze" and giving power to creators who otherwise might not have it, and they recall how, after losing twice at the Golden Globes, Jeff Bezos encouraged them to keep effecting social change through storytelling.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kogi and LocoL chef and food truck movement co-founder Roy Choi talks with Eater's Helen Rosner about making food with a social mission in mind. He says he and his partner Daniel Patterson want healthy food to be accessible and affordable to the people of Watts and West Oakland, Calif., not just the urban centers where most foodie restaurants are found. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Former U.S. Secretary of State and 2016 presidential candidate Hillary Clinton talks with Recode's Kara Swisher and The Verge's Walt Mossberg about the mistakes she made during the campaign and what she thinks in hindsight about criticism of her private email server and paid speeches to Goldman Sachs. Clinton says "anti-American forces" are continually trying to undermine America's security and unity and that she believes saboteurs from Russia were directly aided by Americans, likely including Donald Trump. She criticizes Facebook's spreading of "fake news" and the eagerness of the media to amplify Trump's message, but also the failures of the Democratic National Committee's "poor" data campaign in 2016 as contributing factors to her defeat. Looking forward, Clinton says she's "hopeful" that Democrats will regain control of the House of Representatives in 2018 and "hold [our] own" in the Senate. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices