Recode Replay

Peloton CEO John Foley talks about building a boutique fitness class program that can be accessed from the home. Peloton's exercise bike has tripled in sales in the past year, but the more important thing for its business is its monthly subscription to online spinning classes. Foley examines the social, economic and even religious forces that are driving people to other fitness programs like SoulCycle, CrossFit and Orange Theory. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Celebrity chef Mario Batali talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the future of restaurants, including how technology helps him do his job and whether he can envision a future where a restaurant's food is prepared without human hands. Batali evaluates food/tech companies such as Blue Apron, Juicero and Soylent, as well as food for people who think they are too busy to eat. He also talks about how he uses several social media platforms: Twitter (good for picking fights), Instagram (good for "what I'm doing") and YouTube (good for entertaining Batali's teenage son).  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

David Perpich, the president of the New York Times-owned site The Wirecutter, and Ben Kaufman, the head of BuzzFeed Product Labs, talk with Recode's Peter Kafka about running and building media businesses on top of affiliate links. Perpich says Amazon, Google, Facebook and their peers are "setting the rules" in the digital commerce world, so the NYT has to navigate relationships with all of them. Kaufman says BuzzFeed is moving beyond links to other ways of making money, such as selling a cookbook and hot plate bearing its food brand, Tasty, and partnering with brick-and-mortar retailers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Bonobos CEO Andy Dunn talks with Recode's Jason Del Rey about starting a digital-first clothing brand, selling it to Walmart and continuing to run it along with another company Walmart acquired, ModCloth. Dunn says the deal makes sense even though Bonobos won't be selling in Walmart stores; as an institution for "the vast majority of Americans," the company will help Bonobos access a much larger customer base online. Dunn talks about the calculus that led him to make a deal with Walmart, as opposed to an IPO, another acquirer or a private equity firm. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Forerunner Ventures founder Kirsten Green talks about the blurring line between brands and retailers. She traces the history of shopping stores, malls and online, arguing that consumers today want to know more about brands, inviting them to enter their lives like a human relationship. Green also notes that the era of "you are what you own" is over and we've now entered the era of "you are what you experience." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Revolution CEO and America Online co-founder Steve Case talks with The Verge's Walt Mossberg about the "chasm" between startups in tech hubs and the rest of the country. The author of a 2016 book called "The Third Wave," Case says 75 percent of all venture capital goes to three states, 90 percent went to men and less than 1 percent went to African-Americans. Entrepreneurship is now global, and he argues that America can't lead in that field if its investments are constrained by geography, gender and race. Case believes his "rise of the rest" campaign will be supported by President Trump and his allies once they understand the opportunity it provides for American jobs. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Twitter COO and CFO Anthony Noto talks with Recode's Peter Kafka about whether the company would ever ditch ads and start charging a monthly subscription fee instead. Noto says user growth is re-accelerating as Twitter makes its timeline and notifications faster and more valuable, but he acknowledges that Twitter may "look at" paid premium services. Most of its "resurrected" users are following many news and politics accounts, but Noto wouldn't say if this increase is directly linked to President Trump's tweeting. He also talks about Twitter's deal with the NFL to stream football games on Thursday nights and how it thinks about livestreaming in general. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jonathan Taplin, the director emeritus of USC's Annenberg Innovation Lab, talks about how the creative class and its ability to make money is being undermined by tech giants like Facebook, Google and Amazon. These companies have shirked their responsibilities as their platforms have been used to spread "fake news" and terrorism videos, Taplin says. He argues that they are in the business of "surveillance capitalism" and it's time to take a closer look at where money and power are concentrated in Silicon Valley. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Planned Parenthood Federation of America President Cecile Richards talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about how the nonprofit has dealt with controversy and political opposition under President Trump. Republicans in Washington are attempting to limit the organization, which Richards says would undermine access to local health services and cause the rates of STIs and abortions to go up. Planned Parenthood will continue to exist even if the GOP's health care bill passes, she says, but it's still fighting to remain a public benefit, with funds for most of its services being reimbursed by the government. Richards also talks about how her team uses social media and texting and why she wants to use drones to air-drop birth control. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Intel CEO Brian Krzanich talks with The Verge's Walt Mossberg about the company's pivot away from the PC market and into new areas, such as cloud computing and self-driving cars. Even in a declining PC market, Krzanich notes, Intel has been able to improve its profitability as buyers keep demanding more powerful computers. He says autonomous vehicles will behave more like servers than cars, with the ability to collect and use data around them, applying artificial intelligence to reduce street crime. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices