The Next Level

Larry Hogan walks back comments he'd support Trump if he was the GOP's 2024 nominee, while Chris Sununu doubles down. Plus, Nikki Haley's narrow path to victory and the hurdles facing the police reform debate. This episode of The Next Level was recorded on February 2, 2023. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The gang finish their road trip with a live show in Seattle this weekend with columnist Dan Savage! Here's what went down! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is part two of our Jan. 19 live show from the Avalon Hollywood with special guest Jon Favreau, former Obama speechwriter and host of Pod Save American. To listen to the entire show go to The Next Level at https://thenextlevel.thebulwark.com/p/bonus-live-from-la-pt-2#details Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The gang hit the road this week with a live show from the Avalon Hollywood. To listen to the entire show go to The Next Level at https://thenextlevel.thebulwark.com/p/no-bs-live-la#details. Part two of the show features our guest, Jon Favreau, host of the Pod Save America podcast. Listen here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sonny Bunch joins Tim and JVL to talk Republican fury over suggestions to ban gas stoves. Plus, debates on the trajectory of social media and Ron DeSantis’ new education policy. Join the gang from The Next Level in Hollywood on January 19 and in Seattle on January 21. Learn more here: TheBulwark.com/events Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Marjorie Taylor Greene looks all the more powerful in the new GOP-controlled House after playing her cards right during the Speakership standoff. What will it mean for the radicals to be in control going forward? JVL's Triad: https://thetriad.thebulwark.com/p/ross-douthat-and-the-match-throwing Join the gang from The Next Level in Hollywood on January 19 and in Seattle on January 21. Learn more here: TheBulwark.com/events Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kevin McCarthy's dream of becoming Speaker of the House is imperiled as the MAGA wing flexes its power. After FIVE rounds of voting, he's no where close to securing the position. Is this comeuppance for coming to Trump's rescue after Jan. 6? Join the gang from The Next Level in Seattle this January 21 for an evening of politics and savage love with our special guest Dan Savage. Learn more here: TheBulwark.com/NoBS Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy leaves his country for the first time since Russia invaded to deliver an address to Congress. Plus, Trump's tax return will be released to the public and the Jan. 6 commission held its last hearing. Join the gang from The Next Level in Seattle this January 21 for an evening of politics and savage love with our special guest Dan Savage. Learn more here: TheBulwark.com/NoBS Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sarah, Tim and JVL took over The Bulwark Podcast! Tim Miller checks in from Turning Point's event in Phoenix on the role of "Gays Against Groomers" in the culture war. Plus, George Santos as Tom Ripley, and the Musk crowd's "Free Speech for Me and Not for Thee." Join the gang from The Next Level in Seattle this January 21 for an evening of politics and savage love with our special guest Dan Savage. Learn more here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ron DeSantis attempts to win over Trump voters by going full anti-vaccine. Is it a good strategy for him? Plus, the Twitter Files continue to drop and same-sex marriage is signed into law. JVL, Sarah and Tim discuss! Join the gang from The Next Level in Seattle this January 21 for an evening of politics and savage love with our special guest Dan Savage. Learn more here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices