

The Next Level
The Bulwark
Sarah Longwell, Tim Miller, and Jonathan V. Last bring their signature political insight and banter to the masses in The Next Level podcast. Tune in to hear them discuss the news of the week, break down campaigns and elections, and wade into pop culture feuds. www.thebulwark.com
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Aug 27, 2023 • 27min
Resisting Progressive Pressure (with Rep. Marie Gluesenkamp Perez)
Rep. Marie Gluesenkamp Perez pulled off a surprise win against Republican Joe Kent in the 2022 midterms, and since entering Congress has made a name for herself as a truly moderate Democrat.
Tim asks her about progressives calling her a "Kyrsten Sinema wannabe" for her vote against student loan forgiveness, as well as the Democratic Party's struggles with working class, rural voters, and the congresswoman's prior career in auto repair.
Watch Tim interview Rep. Gluesenkamp Perez here: https://youtu.be/ML2qd-ik3hA

Aug 25, 2023 • 30min
The Debate and the Surrender (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)
The podcast covers the debate between Nikki, Ron, and Vivek, as well as Trump's mugshot. They discuss fundraising strategies, Trump's gradual mainstream acceptance, lack of substantive questions in debates, analyzing a campaign memo, evaluating debate performance, and comparing Vivik and Desantis while critiquing Desantis' response.

Aug 24, 2023 • 23min
Live Post-Debate Reaction (with Tom Nichols and Ben Smith)
Commentator Tom Nichols and political analyst Ben Smith join Tim and JVL to share their thoughts on the participants' performances in a recent GOP debate, discuss differing views on a candidate's performance, criticize Fox News coverage, and explore historical opposition and isolationism in the Republican party.

Aug 23, 2023 • 46min
She's Not Like Other Debates
The gang talks the stakes for the GOP presidential candidates not named Donald Trump who qualified for the first primary debate on Fox News.
Watch the gang record this episode here: https://youtu.be/V93uXEDayto

Aug 20, 2023 • 50min
The Women Who Took on Trump (with Robbie Kaplan)
Robbie Kaplan, the lawyer who represented E. Jean Carroll in her civil suit against Donald Trump, joins Tim to discuss her win against the former president for sexual abuse. She also gives her opinion on the current indictments against Trump, including which one could go to trial before the 2024 election, and her Supreme Court case that helped pave the way for marriage equality.
Watch Tim interview Robbie on our YouTube channel here: https://youtu.be/atasEPqnzA4

Aug 18, 2023 • 27min
How Should DeSantis Approach the Debate? (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)
A Very Special Episode.
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Aug 16, 2023 • 46min
Place Your Bets: President or Jail?
The gang plays a little game: What are the odds Trump a) Becomes president, b) Goes to jail, or c) Neither? Let us know what you think the odds are in the comments!
Plus, another ignorant country song storms the charts, and Trump apparently DM'ed a lot of people on the app formerly known as Twitter.
Watch the gang record this episode on our YouTube channel here: https://youtu.be/ChWTYpojUsY
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Aug 13, 2023 • 1h 1min
Who's to Blame for the Homelessness Crisis? (with Jerusalem Demsas)
Ever wonder how homelessness has gotten so bad in America? And why there appears to be no successful efforts to solve it? The Atlantic's Jerusalem Demsas joins Tim and JVL to answer every question they have about this massive problem. It's a truly in-depth discussion you won't want to miss!
Watch the Tim and JVL interview Jerusalem on our official YouTube channel here: https://youtu.be/qCsd1O4-hdI
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Aug 11, 2023 • 27min
Hunter & Ron (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)
Sarah and JVL talk about the politics of Joe Biden’s Hunter problem and the game theory on whether or not Ron DeSantis should stay in the race.
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Aug 9, 2023 • 48min
Trump or Death
Tim recounts his trip to Iowa to watch GOP presidential candidates make their weak bids for the nomination over Trump, Including Ron DeSantis, who just replaced his campaign manager. And the so-called "pro-women's sports integrity" conservatives are relishing the U.S. women's soccer team getting knock out of the World Cup.
Plus, Ohio shuts down GOP attempts to make constitutional amendments (abortion rights) harder, and Sarah gives updates on what her focus groups think of "on the rise" Tim Scott.
Watch the gang record this episode on our YouTube channel here: https://youtu.be/4HnSr4lg1i0
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