
Code Switch
What's CODE SWITCH? It's the fearless conversations about race that you've been waiting for. Hosted by journalists of color, our podcast tackles the subject of race with empathy and humor. We explore how race affects every part of society — from politics and pop culture to history, food and everything in between. This podcast makes all of us part of the conversation — because we're all part of the story. Code Switch was named Apple Podcasts' first-ever Show of the Year in 2020.Want to level up your Code Switch game? Try Code Switch Plus. Your subscription supports the show and unlocks a sponsor-free feed. Learn more at plus.npr.org/codeswitch
Latest episodes

Apr 9, 2025 • 38min
Why Trump is sending Venezuelans to El Salvador
Sergio Martinez Beltran, an NPR immigration reporter, dives into the impact of the Trump administration's immigration policies on Venezuelan migrants. He shares a poignant story of a family desperately searching for their son after ICE agents’ intervention. The conversation explores how Venezuelans are unfairly depicted as criminals, the harsh realities of detention in El Salvador, and the broader emotional turmoil faced by families navigating the complex U.S. immigration landscape. Sergio highlights the resilience of mothers seeking support amidst these struggles.

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Apr 2, 2025 • 32min
What's lost in Trump's DEI ban?
Adam Serwer, a staff writer at The Atlantic known for his political commentary, teams up with Paul Astadebe, a trial attorney and advocate for federal workers' rights. They delve into Trump’s ban on DEI programs, exploring the confusion surrounding what DEI really entails. The duo discusses the historical implications of this ban on civil rights and the fears of federal employees. They highlight how this political move could undermine decades of progress and emphasize the importance of advocacy in this shifting landscape.

Mar 26, 2025 • 30min
With measles on the rise, what we can learn from past epidemics
Historian Edna Bonhomme, author of "A History of the World in Six Plagues," dives into the intersections of health and marginalized communities. She discusses the societal myths during the HIV-AIDS epidemic that shaped her childhood. The conversation examines lessons from past epidemics, the role of trust in public health, and critiques of governmental neglect. Bonhomme emphasizes the importance of learning from history to improve health strategies and highlights the need for inclusive healthcare practices for better community support.

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Mar 19, 2025 • 37min
What Mahmoud Khalil's arrest means for ... everyone
Join legal expert Steve Vladek and student journalist Claudia Steinhardt as they dive into the arrest of Mahmoud Khalil, a green card holder and pro-Palestinian activist. They discuss the chilling implications for free speech and the constitutional rights of immigrants. Khalil's case ignites debates on campus activism, legal complexities, and the impact of U.S. immigration policy. Claudia shares her firsthand experiences amid rising tensions at Columbia University, highlighting the emotional toll on students and the ongoing struggle for civil liberties.

Mar 12, 2025 • 32min
This Palestinian-American's debut novel may not be political — but her existence is
To be a Palestinian-American writer right now can lead to a lot of expectation to focus on identity and devastation, but in her debut novel, Too Soon, Betty Shamieh shares the story of three generations of Palestinian women trying to find love, purpose and liberation.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

Mar 5, 2025 • 32min
A look at the human toll of the construction of the Panama Canal
The Panama Canal's impact on the geopolitical stage far outreaches its roughly 51-mile stretch of land and water. This week, we're trying to understand the canal's murky future - from climate change to President Trump's threat to take it for the U.S. - by looking at its turbulent, cataclysmic birth.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Feb 26, 2025 • 36min
Black audiences see themselves centered in a brand new soap opera
Michelle Valjean, the creative force behind the groundbreaking soap opera Beyond the Gates, teams up with veteran actress Tamara Tooney, known for As the World Turns. Together, they explore the rich history of Black representation in soap operas. They discuss the significance of authentic storytelling in their new series, which centers on a glamorous Black family. The conversation dives into the challenges and joys of creating complex characters and the cultural impact of reimagining narratives for Black audiences in today's media landscape.

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Feb 24, 2025 • 23min
The NFL's concussion problem beyond CTE
Will Hobson, an investigative sports reporter at The Washington Post, dives into the NFL’s controversial concussion settlement. The conversation reveals how racial dynamics impact the payout process for former players. Hobson discusses the alarming connections between brain diseases and football, particularly highlighting CTE. The podcast also addresses the unsettling practice of race norming in cognitive assessments, revealing its disproportionate effects on African-American players seeking compensation. It's a deep look into the NFL's challenges and the ramifications for those involved.

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Feb 19, 2025 • 31min
What a Black enclave lost in the Los Angeles wildfires
Jaira Dang, a reporter covering the Eaton Fire, delves into the profound impact of the catastrophic wildfires on the historic Black community of Altadena. She narrates the emotional toll of losing homes and heritage, while residents grapple with rebuilding amid systemic challenges like delayed emergency responses. The discussion highlights resilience, community solidarity, and the looming threat of gentrification as they strive to preserve their identity. Drawing parallels to themes from Octavia Butler's work adds a thought-provoking layer to their struggle against environmental and social crises.

Feb 17, 2025 • 18min
An NFL star on what the game costs those who play it
Dominique Foxworth, a former NFL player and president of the NFL Players Association, dives deep into the hidden costs of professional football. He candidly discusses the severe physical and mental toll on players, particularly the long-term effects of injuries and CTE. Foxworth also addresses the stark racial and economic disparities players face compared to team owners, along with the inadequacies in support for retired athletes. This engaging conversation sheds light on the often-overlooked struggles behind the glamour of the NFL.
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