Let’s Get Real with Stephen Jones

In this conversation with Don Bradley, a Latter-day Saint historian who made a remarkable return to faith, listeners explore the surprising family connection between President Dallin H. Oaks and Martin Harris. Don reveals Martin's early revelations and ties them to the Feast of Tabernacles, showcasing a divine thread in Church history. They discuss Martin's pivotal role in the Book of Mormon's translation and how the patterns of witness from then resonate in Oaks's leadership today, illustrating that the Restoration story continues to unfold.

Sister Reyna I. Aburto, former Second Counselor in the Relief Society General Presidency, shares her profound experiences working alongside President Russell M. Nelson and President Dallin H. Oaks. She recounts the unique opportunity to critique President Nelson's talk, highlighting his humility and attentiveness to women's perspectives. Reyna discusses the significance of vulnerability in ministry, the importance of direction over speed in leadership, and how modern church councils align with divine principles. She reflects on the power of covenants and invites everyone to gather Israel and expect miracles.

Sister Elaine S. Dalton, former Young Women General President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, shares transformative experiences with President Russell M. Nelson. She describes his profound prayers that focus on identity and divine guidance. Elaine recounts moments of receiving revelation in his presence and the warmth of his compassion, detailing how his teachings empower young women to recognize their divine identities. Through personal anecdotes, she highlights the impact of prophetic leadership on discipleship and the importance of covenants.

Elder Larry Y. Wilson, former executive director of the Church's Temple Department, shares his unique experiences working closely with President Russell M. Nelson. He reveals how President Nelson's bold vision transformed temple plans from 60 to 600. Wilson describes the dynamic atmosphere of revelation during temple planning and discusses the consultative leadership style of President Nelson. He also reflects on personal moments that highlight Nelson's warmth and support, showcasing his profound impact on church leadership and community.

Skyler Sorensen, a father and content creator for Scripture Central, shares his touching journey through same-sex attraction and profound grief after losing his son, Milo. He discusses how his temple marriage became a source of strength and emphasizes that sincerity and vulnerability are vital in relationships. Skyler highlights the importance of choosing faithfulness despite life's complexities, and he reflects on how grief deepened his testimony, turning bitterness into blessings. His insights encourage a reevaluation of personal struggles within the covenant path.

Sharon Eubank, the global director of Latter-day Saint Charities, shares profound insights from her extensive humanitarian work. She emphasizes that true aid begins with listening and respecting individuals' dignity. Sharon recounts touching moments from disaster zones, like witnessing local heroes during the Sri Lanka tsunami, showing that presence often outweighs financial aid. She advocates for community empowerment through small, meaningful acts and building relationships, urging listeners to prioritize understanding over assumptions in service.

In this conversation, Don Bradley, a Joseph Smith expert and returned faithful Latter-day Saint, dives into his profound discoveries about Joseph's character and choices. He shares insights from Joseph's childhood surgery, revealing the deep-seated reasons behind his refusal of alcohol. Don also reflects on his personal journey of loss, connecting it with Joseph's experiences as a father. The discussion offers a fresh perspective on the complexities of faith and history, while exploring themes of love, loss, and the human connections that shape our understanding of historical figures.

David Butler, a religious educator and speaker known for his insightful approach to faith, challenges the notion that Gen Z is abandoning religion. Instead, he reveals how many young people are seeking a deeper connection with God. They are redefining faith as a personal journey rather than a punitive structure. Butler discusses the transformative power of authentic belief and encourages embracing diverse faiths, highlighting the urgent need for spiritual awakening and community engagement.

Dr. Marcus Martins made history as the first Black missionary to serve after the 1978 revelation that extended the priesthood to all worthy male members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. But that’s not what he wants to be known for. In this conversation, Dr. Martins opens up about something far more personal and powerful: his quiet, steady choice to follow Christ, even when some questions didn’t have answers. He didn’t stay in the Church because he ignored the hard things. He stayed because he saw something true—something deep—in the restored gospel of Jesus Christ. Something that spoke to both his spirit and his intellect. This episode isn’t about rehashing history. It’s about what it means to be a disciple—when it’s not flashy, when it’s not easy, and when faith has to walk ahead of clarity. We talk about the difference between doubts and questions. About how real belonging looks in a Church that’s still growing. And about the power of remembering the moments when the Spirit whispered, “You’re home.” Listen to the full conversation and let us know what stood out to you most.

Dr. Kawika Allen, a Church psychologist and BYU professor, dives into the spiritual struggles of scrupulosity and perfectionism within the Latter-day Saint community. He discusses how the pursuit of unattainable perfection can lead to feelings of unworthiness and anxiety. Allen emphasizes the liberating truth of grace, arguing that you don’t need to earn love but rather accept it in your flaws. The conversation reveals how embracing imperfection and focusing on mercy can transform one’s faith journey, fostering resilience and a deeper connection to Christ.